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250GB 'Super' Xbox 360 Elite coming soon?
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article published on 30 August, 2009
Kotaku is reporting that a 250GB 'Super' Xbox 360 Elite is possibly on the way, and two retail leaks seem to confirm the fact.
The first ad, from the German Amazon, lists a 250 GB Xbox 360 Elite bundled with Forza Motorsport 3 and 2 wireless controllers for ?279.99, about $400 USD.
The second ad, from the South African retailer BT Games, shows the so-called "Super" Elite for R4699, ... [ read the full article ]
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30. August 2009 @ 22:49 |
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How is that "super"? Both Sony & M$ need to start putting 500GB drives in their high-end, jacked-up-price units. Charging $100 extra to replace a $40 drive with a $50 drive is total BS.
Also: "When you trade in your PS2 slim console"
-Sounds like they are a bit worried by all the studies that show the PS2 is still far more popular than either Xbox.
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30. August 2009 @ 23:17 |
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Would be cool , So Most/All of your games can fit on your 360 hd, but 500gb would be better
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31. August 2009 @ 00:54 |
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wow 600$? thats way too high i dont see why comments are disabled on that ps3 article
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31. August 2009 @ 01:42 |
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Originally posted by KillerBug:
How is that "super"? Both Sony & M$ need to start putting 500GB drives in their high-end, jacked-up-price units. Charging $100 extra to replace a $40 drive with a $50 drive is total BS.
Also: "When you trade in your PS2 slim console"
-Sounds like they are a bit worried by all the studies that show the PS2 is still far more popular than either Xbox.
360 is the worst offender here since you can ONLY replace their proprietary 360 exclusive HDD with another proprietary 360 exclusive HDD. At least the PS3/PS3 Slim let's you put in your own HDD.
And $600? for a system that still only plays DVD9 games, only plays at 720p, and you have to pay for the online service. You'd have to be brain dead to buy it. Any 360 fanboy that complained about the price of the PS3 for the last few years that would honestly now pay $600 for a 360 is truly stupid.
And to trade in a PS2?
sounds to me like they're worried about Sony period. The playing field has finally been leveled and Sony is about to score the game breaker...and MS knows it. They can't beat the PS3 at $299, so they're going to pick on the 10 year old system that outsells them.
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31. August 2009 @ 02:18 |
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And to trade in a PS2?
sounds to me like they're worried about Sony period. The playing field has finally been leveled and Sony is about to score the game breaker...and MS knows it. They can't beat the PS3 at $299, so they're going to pick on the 10 year old system that outsells them.
The retailer is offering the deal for trade in not ms..lol..as for the PS3 it's at the rear of all the consoles incl the original xbox,should be interesting to see what the slim PS3 can do however to me this time round sony has missed the mark with the PS3,what i mean by that is it's trying to be everything for everybody,a web browser a game console & a dvd player & a media centre,they should've concentrated on being a gaming console first,not to worry i dare say lessons are being learned & the next gen battle is shaping up to be a doosey me thinks,either way both sony & ms need a good kick up the jacksie
Edit:one more thing both makers should get input from the people that matter in what they would like to see in the next set of consoles starting with much larger hdd's & no heating issues & both consoles could be a dam site more bloody quite along with playing from hdd without to much dvd spin time,yeah there's a million other things i'd like to add but that'll do
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31. August 2009 @ 05:22 |
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I'm sure you can swap your hard drive your self on these things as they are just notebook drives the same as the PS3.
How To, here you go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WR9inneEkA
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31. August 2009 @ 06:19 |
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Originally posted by pphoenix:
I'm sure you can swap your hard drive your self on these things as they are just notebook drives the same as the PS3.
swapping hdd's on the 360 isn't the issue,the 360 cannot read past 120gb,there's no way to make it too, flash or chipped it still can't,lets face it even the PS3 @ 80GB at time of sale is a bloody joke,the 360's worse since it lets you load games to the hdd,what bloody nut thought "oh lets make the max for the 360 120gb",what a bunch of idiots there are at the ms production team
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31. August 2009 @ 07:22 |
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I'm sure you can swap your hard drive your self on these things as they are just notebook drives the same as the PS3.
swapping hdd's on the 360 isn't the issue,the 360 cannot read past 120gb,there's no way to make it too, flash or chipped it still can't,lets face it even the PS3 @ 80GB at time of sale is a bloody joke,the 360's worse since it lets you load games to the hdd,what bloody nut thought "oh lets make the max for the 360 120gb",what a bunch of idiots there are at the ms production team
but the limitation can be removed via a firmware update if microsoft wanted to be nice. just as win xp home was fixed, so it could use larger that the 120gig size hb without needing partitions.
the simplicity of put a cartridge in & it works has now gone, i thought console gaming was supposed to be a simple and cheap alternative to the PC, what a joke.
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31. August 2009 @ 09:36 |
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There is a firmware limit on current Xbox SKUs for a 120gb limit on the HDD size - but that doesn't stop anyone sourcing & using the correct Western Digital HDD themselves.
Similarly when the 250gb HDD appears the firmware will update to allow 250gb (and when we know whioch specific HDD is used you'll be able to go and buy that yourself and fit it into the enclosure too).
I'm all for bigger HDDs. 250gb will be nice but as they move to d/l'ing full games (as well as HD movie d/ls) even that 250gb drive is going to fill pretty quickly.
?279.99 = £246.
So here in the UK it'll be cheaper than the 120gb PS3 slim (and we can always just buy one in the EU at the price if necessary.
I hope they bring bigger drives tho.
But it is still nice to be able to use an external HDD for movies amd music and pics (and when formatted in HFS+ it does away with the 4gb FAT 32 limit).
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31. August 2009 @ 10:04 |
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And to trade in a PS2?
sounds to me like they're worried about Sony period. The playing field has finally been leveled and Sony is about to score the game breaker...and MS knows it. They can't beat the PS3 at $299, so they're going to pick on the 10 year old system that outsells them.
The retailer is offering the deal for trade in not ms..lol..as for the PS3 it's at the rear of all the consoles incl the original xbox,should be interesting to see what the slim PS3 can do however to me this time round sony has missed the mark with the PS3,what i mean by that is it's trying to be everything for everybody,a web browser a game console & a dvd player & a media centre,they should've concentrated on being a gaming console first,not to worry i dare say lessons are being learned & the next gen battle is shaping up to be a doosey me thinks,either way both sony & ms need a good kick up the jacksie
The Xbox 360 does those same exact things. Last i checked on my 360 i can stream netflix, watch DVD's, Play CD's/MP3's, go online, and play games...is that not a media center? Sony has not missed the mark yet, the PS3 has a 10 year cycle that they are only 3 or so years into. They only missed the mark due to price. Now that it's within the price range of the 360, and you get more system for your buck I think it's game over for the 360. The hardware in the PS3 will go the whole 10 years without aging badly, IMHO my 360's hardware peaked in 2008.
The system is number one and has been for a long time that means market saturation, the PS3 has not even begun to meet the 360 in saturation yet. That means there is a very open and interested market that will buy the PS3.
I love mt 360 to death, but i'm not so blindly in love that i can't see that the PS3 is a better system and at the same price. With pretty much the same exact game library. If my 360 RROD'd today i'd toss it sell all the games and get the PS3 instead and be done with it. (I hope i didn't just curse my xbox)
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31. August 2009 @ 12:01 |
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I so badly want to like the PS3, since I grew up on Sony. It may take a few years for the PS3 to get into my household, because I just don't see the need for it. If it's so dang powerful, why have I not seen anything yet that revolutionizes graphics? Any game that you can compare between the 360 and PS3 looks pretty much the same. In fact, I think the 360 version looks a little more polished at times.
Besides, 360s exclusive titles outmatch that of the PS3. Gears of War, Halo, Fable, Forza, and the list goes on and on. PS3 has MGS (for now..), Resistance (yawn), Killzone (yawn), SOCOM (people still play this??), God of War, Ratchet & Clank, and Gran Turismo. Anyone who isn't a fanboy of Sony can agree. Xbox has a much better selection.
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31. August 2009 @ 12:19 |
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Originally posted by MReprogle:
Besides, 360s exclusive titles outmatch that of the PS3
....in your humble opinion.
Originally posted by MReprogle:
...Gears of War, Halo, Fable, Forza, and the list goes on and on. PS3 has MGS (for now..), Resistance (yawn), Killzone (yawn), SOCOM (people still play this??), God of War, Ratchet & Clank, and Gran Turismo.
Do you really think that's all the exclusives the PS3 has? The list also goes on. No need for a pissing match. Just requires some more googling.
Originally posted by MReprogle:
...Anyone who isn't a fanboy of Sony can agree. Xbox has a much better selection.
It's purely objective.
Anyway, the whole hard drive pricing scheme is enough to drive anyone nuts. You can't win with these consoles. They could at least try a little harder to not make it look like they think we're stupid.
But the 2 controllers and exclusive game is a pretty good addition. A single controller standard has always pissed me off.
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31. August 2009 @ 13:06 |
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Originally posted by MReprogle:
I so badly want to like the PS3, since I grew up on Sony. It may take a few years for the PS3 to get into my household, because I just don't see the need for it. If it's so dang powerful, why have I not seen anything yet that revolutionizes graphics? Any game that you can compare between the 360 and PS3 looks pretty much the same. In fact, I think the 360 version looks a little more polished at times.
Besides, 360s exclusive titles outmatch that of the PS3. Gears of War, Halo, Fable, Forza, and the list goes on and on. PS3 has MGS (for now..), Resistance (yawn), Killzone (yawn), SOCOM (people still play this??), God of War, Ratchet & Clank, and Gran Turismo. Anyone who isn't a fanboy of Sony can agree. Xbox has a much better selection.
If you think
Gears of War (5vs5 on a peer to peer system using outdated Unreal tech for graphics)
Halo (sub HD resolution 640p & technologically didn't bring nothing new to the table)
Forza (only 8 players with inaccurate tracks and physics)
are in some way graphically & in gameplay superior/better than
Uncharted 1/2 (solid true 720p stunning graphics & solid gameplay)
Resistance 1/2 (solid true 720p & more support like 30vs30 MP all while NOT peer to peer etc)
Killzone 2 (solid true 720p & 1080i, again not on peer to peer servers, with physics & graphics absolutely superior to ANYTHING on the 360)
God of War (again graphically amazing from what we have seen so far)
Ratchet & Clank (borderline Disney quality animations/graphics)
Gran Turismo (solid true 720p & 1280x1080p support, 16 player, by far more accurate tracks & physics)
Motorstorm 1/2 (an often forgotten physics intense equally graphical FUN off road title)
MGS4 (storyline alone is worthy enough to stand by)
then you haven't played them at all, on a proper setup, or are going off compressed online videos comparisons or something....
It is a fact that Sony has by far and away many more inhouse devs combined with solid 2nd & 3rd party support with REAL diversity in their games. Not just TPS's & FPS's that are 99% of the time multiplatform. Look, if you don't like the games that are available on the PS3, that's cool, it's YOUR preference. But to say that "360s exclusive titles outmatch that of the PS3" is outright fallacy.
If you want to read a more in depth comparison of say Gears vs Uncharted then read through this and this
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31. August 2009 @ 13:21 |
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Considering that almost everyone with a console that I know loves COD4 and its 600p graphics I think the hair-splitting and partial commentary about Xbox games is ridiculous.
The fact is that Xbox not only offers more games than PS3 but more games with a higher score according to Metacritic.
A 250gb Elite will be a nice new SKU (and this explains those 'quantites limited' notices on the bottom of those price-cut flyers).
250gb is the new Elite and at much the same price from the look of the Amazon Germany post.
It compares extremely well to the 120gb PS3 slim (and will make the 250gb PS3 slim look very expensive).
(and I'm not at all impressed by the comments of Sony devs talking up PS3 and slamming Xbox)
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31. August 2009 @ 14:36 |
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No such announcement - They've not announced it but they haven't denied that they're not working on it.
The word it way too obvious - on purpose I think.
Who agrees that it costs a little too high if there won't be a WiFi Adapter and LIVE bundled?
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31. August 2009 @ 14:56 |
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I don't own an xbox but I'll say just to add another kick to it, I hear it down converts dts audio to ac3. HAHA And for those with audio systems know that there is a difference and can hear it. :)
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31. August 2009 @ 16:06 |
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ah the good old off topic sony talk has hijacked a 360 thread.
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31. August 2009 @ 17:07 |
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Super-Elite?Supreme. Sounds like a Pizza. I was going to say that it would probably cook one too but im not going to say that. Nice tactic from MS, "Trade in your PS2" to get the deal. If we cant beat you, we will buy you.
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31. August 2009 @ 18:18 |
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Originally posted by pphoenix:
ah the good old off topic sony talk has hijacked a 360 thread.
cause they cant comment on their articles...
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31. August 2009 @ 18:18 |
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Originally posted by kikzm33z:
Who agrees that it costs a little too high if there won't be a WiFi Adapter and LIVE bundled?
What's the big deal about wi-fi?
Besides the Xbox wi-fi adapter isn't expensive anymore (it's selling in the uK @ £32 - £35 now).
In any case wired is more reliable, faster, cheaper and generally much better - and with the latest wall power socket networking it's so convenient, easy & cheap.
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31. August 2009 @ 19:01 |
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ah the good old off topic sony talk has hijacked a 360 thread.
cause they cant comment on their articles...
Thats the 360 calling the PS3 black. It is thanks to pphownix that the PS3 articles are closed.
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31. August 2009 @ 19:02 |
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Originally posted by kikzm33z:
Who agrees that it costs a little too high if there won't be a WiFi Adapter and LIVE bundled?
What's the big deal about wi-fi?
Besides the Xbox wi-fi adapter isn't expensive anymore (it's selling in the uK @ £32 - £35 now).
In any case wired is more reliable, faster, cheaper and generally much better - and with the latest wall power socket networking it's so convenient, easy & cheap.
That's £32 more cost for the system. It's 2009. WiFi should be a standard for this type of device that connects online. I haven't been following the 360 closely, and I'm shocked that WiFi is still not standard. The average consumer only knows wired and wireless. If you want to promote a "Live" service and charge for it, you'd better provide both means of connecting that service right out of the box.
So is it true that the 360 also downsamples dts to AC3? That would also be a shame. After listening to dts, I could never comfortably go back to AC3. Huge difference to me.
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31. August 2009 @ 19:50 |
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Originally posted by glassd:
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Originally posted by pphoenix:
ah the good old off topic sony talk has hijacked a 360 thread.
cause they cant comment on their articles...
Thats the 360 calling the PS3 black. It is thanks to pphownix that the PS3 articles are closed.
We have a Winner! Or at least partially...so the fair thing to do would be to close this thread as well since it falls under the "all console news topics will be closed"...what do you think guys? Close this one and have ppheonix be 3 for 3 (plus close all the rest that are open as well to be really fair) or what?
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31. August 2009 @ 20:36 |
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Originally posted by MReprogle:
I so badly want to like the PS3, since I grew up on Sony. It may take a few years for the PS3 to get into my household, because I just don't see the need for it. If it's so dang powerful, why have I not seen anything yet that revolutionizes graphics? Any game that you can compare between the 360 and PS3 looks pretty much the same. In fact, I think the 360 version looks a little more polished at times.
Besides, 360s exclusive titles outmatch that of the PS3. Gears of War, Halo, Fable, Forza, and the list goes on and on. PS3 has MGS (for now..), Resistance (yawn), Killzone (yawn), SOCOM (people still play this??), God of War, Ratchet & Clank, and Gran Turismo. Anyone who isn't a fanboy of Sony can agree. Xbox has a much better selection.
If you think
Gears of War (5vs5 on a peer to peer system using outdated Unreal tech for graphics)
Halo (sub HD resolution 640p & technologically didn't bring nothing new to the table)
Forza (only 8 players with inaccurate tracks and physics)
are in some way graphically & in gameplay superior/better than
Uncharted 1/2 (solid true 720p stunning graphics & solid gameplay)
Resistance 1/2 (solid true 720p & more support like 30vs30 MP all while NOT peer to peer etc)
Killzone 2 (solid true 720p & 1080i, again not on peer to peer servers, with physics & graphics absolutely superior to ANYTHING on the 360)
God of War (again graphically amazing from what we have seen so far)
Ratchet & Clank (borderline Disney quality animations/graphics)
Gran Turismo (solid true 720p & 1280x1080p support, 16 player, by far more accurate tracks & physics)
Motorstorm 1/2 (an often forgotten physics intense equally graphical FUN off road title)
MGS4 (storyline alone is worthy enough to stand by)
then you haven't played them at all, on a proper setup, or are going off compressed online videos comparisons or something....
It is a fact that Sony has by far and away many more inhouse devs combined with solid 2nd & 3rd party support with REAL diversity in their games. Not just TPS's & FPS's that are 99% of the time multiplatform. Look, if you don't like the games that are available on the PS3, that's cool, it's YOUR preference. But to say that "360s exclusive titles outmatch that of the PS3" is outright fallacy.
If you want to read a more in depth comparison of say Gears vs Uncharted then read through this and this
I am not going to get into a exclusives title comparison between these consoles. I will play anything that is a great game no matter what console it is on. But i will add a fact that you pay a lot more for some PS3 exclusives b/c they are newer(GOW1 is an old XBOX360 title now) maybe b/c the PS3 is still more difficult dev for, BUT........then again PS3 has free online so haha who cares. Depends on how you look at things. but i will say that i dont think its fair to give uncharted so much credit graphically or overall as a game. Ii dont think i was the only one who noticed a lot of glitching in the polygons that were sometimes slow to load and had tearing. Other review sites noticed this as well and that is one reason uncharted didnot score as high as it could have. Nor did uncharted score as high graphically as GOW 1 or 2. Not b/c the graphics did not look better in uncharted i admit as well do i admit you could find some flaws in GOW1n2 as well but Honestly Uncharteds issue was a lot more obvious and often. You have to take that into account that either the PS3 had some programming issues or as some say GPU may truely be bottle necking the PS3 true potential in its CPU(cell). Just wanted to put that out b/c it was state that the GOW used"outdated Unreal tech for graphics." yet reviews took other issues with visuals into account besides first appearance like a lot of people do and reviewed it accordingly. Also felt bad b/c i enjoyed playing the game for the bit i did but my friend who i recommended the game to buy, beat it the next day he bought it. He bitched about $60 for a short game like that was crazy.
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31. August 2009 @ 21:48 |
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Leave them open. I will go back to only reading\posting in the PS3 articles. I fell a little bad that i sunk to the little boys level and pooped on this article concerning a product that i no longer use and dont realy care about anymore. Competition is good for both consoles.
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