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article published on 12 December, 2009
Left Behind Games, infamously known for their Christian-themed PC games, have decided to expand their games to gaming consoles, announcing the launch of Bible Adventures for the Xbox 360 and the Wii.
The game is not a port of the old NES game by the same name but instead "a brand new game that happens to have the same title, this one set in their "Charlie the Church Mouse" series of educational ... [ read the full article ]
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You won't get flamed from me because i know you are doing it just to be a jerk about it. At least say something of intelligence. After 2,000 (1700 if u want to be uber technical)years of Christianity it is still here and science has failed to disprove it, in fact it has enhanced its truth to us.
Science has proven the theory of evolution but it hasnt proved the bible is fact,god exist or that even jesus was real when we find his skeleton then we can all believe he was real.science hasn't proved god is real.I think for someone to create 9 planets which revolve and with moons revoling around each planet he must of been a mad scientist or mathamatical genius.christianity,atheistism,holy karan,buddism & other religions shouldn't be pushed in our face by videogames its bad enough mormans go to people houses preaching about god.
Nobody is pushing anything in anyones face. Already stated, you don't have to buy it.
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You won't get flamed from me because i know you are doing it just to be a jerk about it. At least say something of intelligence. After 2,000 (1700 if u want to be uber technical)years of Christianity it is still here and science has failed to disprove it, in fact it has enhanced its truth to us.
Science has proven the theory of evolution but it hasnt proved the bible is fact,god exist or that even jesus was real when we find his skeleton then we can all believe he was real.science hasn't proved god is real.I think for someone to create 9 planets which revolve and with moons revoling around each planet he must of been a mad scientist or mathamatical genius.christianity,atheistism,holy karan,buddism & other religions shouldn't be pushed in our face by videogames its bad enough mormans go to people houses preaching about god.
Science has proven micro-evolution true,macro evolution actually makes no sense if you think about and that is why no macro biologist believe it, but are forced to say they do for government funding. Think about birds. If we all started from a single celled organism(which is absurd) These birds had to of been land animals. As evolution was progressing it "determined" these birds need to have wings. But why for the 100 million years it would take evolution to grow wings capable that allows a bird to fly. If you had wings but couldn't fly that specie of bird would of gone extinct based on all the predators that could easily catch a grounded bird with wings as dead weight. So Evolution in fact makes no sense by going against it's very own nature. You say that the Bible cannot be proven and i agree, that is why you must have faith. Lucky enough for me I am man enough to accept something higher that me instead of thinking my baby boy is just a 500 million year long product of a random event
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You won't get flamed from me because i know you are doing it just to be a jerk about it. At least say something of intelligence. After 2,000 (1700 if u want to be uber technical)years of Christianity it is still here and science has failed to disprove it, in fact it has enhanced its truth to us.
Science has proven the theory of evolution but it hasnt proved the bible is fact,god exist or that even jesus was real when we find his skeleton then we can all believe he was real.science hasn't proved god is real.I think for someone to create 9 planets which revolve and with moons revoling around each planet he must of been a mad scientist or mathamatical genius.christianity,atheistism,holy karan,buddism & other religions shouldn't be pushed in our face by videogames its bad enough mormans go to people houses preaching about god.
Science has proven micro-evolution true,macro evolution actually makes no sense if you think about and that is why no macro biologist believe it, but are forced to say they do for government funding. Think about birds. If we all started from a single celled organism(which is absurd) These birds had to of been land animals. As evolution was progressing it "determined" these birds need to have wings. But why for the 100 million years it would take evolution to grow wings capable that allows a bird to fly. If you had wings but couldn't fly that specie of bird would of gone extinct based on all the predators that could easily catch a grounded bird with wings as dead weight. So Evolution in fact makes no sense by going against it's very own nature. You say that the Bible cannot be proven and i agree, that is why you must have faith. Lucky enough for me I am man enough to accept something higher that me instead of thinking my baby boy is just a 500 million year long product of a random event
You have just supported evolution, "If you had wings but couldn't fly that specie of bird would of gone extinct"
excatly! the one who couldn't fly died out, the ones that could fly survived it's so simple.
Penguins survived by being able to survive cold weather conditions that other animals could not, apart from fish, which they eat as food.
Nothing is determined in evolution, the animals that are able to replicate without being killed or running out of food(I.e they have an advantage) survived, they ones that didn't have an advantage died out.
Giraffes are a perfect example:
At one point Giraffes had short necks, over millions of years some where born that had slightly longer necks, they where able to reach food that the short neck Giraffes could could not.
over time, more long neck Giraffes survived and pass on the their genetic material (replicated) and the short neck Giraffes died out as they could not reach the leaves for food.
natural selection is one of the simplest things.
only 1% of everything that has ever existed is still alive today, which proves just how perfect everything is on earth and how thing must have adapted to survive.
You survived you passed on your genetic material and human race continues, if humans for whatever reason could not replicate, we would become extinct. simple.
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You won't get flamed from me because i know you are doing it just to be a jerk about it. At least say something of intelligence. After 2,000 (1700 if u want to be uber technical)years of Christianity it is still here and science has failed to disprove it, in fact it has enhanced its truth to us.
Science has proven the theory of evolution but it hasnt proved the bible is fact,god exist or that even jesus was real when we find his skeleton then we can all believe he was real.science hasn't proved god is real.I think for someone to create 9 planets which revolve and with moons revoling around each planet he must of been a mad scientist or mathamatical genius.christianity,atheistism,holy karan,buddism & other religions shouldn't be pushed in our face by videogames its bad enough mormans go to people houses preaching about god.
Science has proven micro-evolution true,macro evolution actually makes no sense if you think about and that is why no macro biologist believe it, but are forced to say they do for government funding. Think about birds. If we all started from a single celled organism(which is absurd) These birds had to of been land animals. As evolution was progressing it "determined" these birds need to have wings. But why for the 100 million years it would take evolution to grow wings capable that allows a bird to fly. If you had wings but couldn't fly that specie of bird would of gone extinct based on all the predators that could easily catch a grounded bird with wings as dead weight. So Evolution in fact makes no sense by going against it's very own nature. You say that the Bible cannot be proven and i agree, that is why you must have faith. Lucky enough for me I am man enough to accept something higher that me instead of thinking my baby boy is just a 500 million year long product of a random event
You have just supported evolution, "If you had wings but couldn't fly that specie of bird would of gone extinct"
excatly! the one who couldn't fly died out, the ones that could fly survived it's so simple.
Penguins survived by being able to survive cold weather conditions that other animals could not, apart from fish, which they eat as food.
Nothing is determined in evolution, the animals that are able to replicate without being killed or running out of food(I.e they have an advantage) survived, they ones that didn't have an advantage died out.
Giraffes are a perfect example:
At one point Giraffes had short necks, over millions of years some where born that had slightly longer necks, they where able to reach food that the short neck Giraffes could could not.
over time, more long neck Giraffes survived and pass on the their genetic material (replicated) and the short neck Giraffes died out as they could not reach the leaves for food.
natural selection is one of the simplest things.
only 1% of everything that has ever existed is still alive today, which proves just how perfect everything is on earth and how thing must have adapted to survive.
You survived you passed on your genetic material and human race continues, if humans for whatever reason could not replicate, we would become extinct. simple.
Natural selection may be one of the most simplest things, but how do evolution supporters know that life wasn't created to be that way? Turn to micro biologists who have "proven" evolution, and you realize that they cannot explain the mechanism behind it. The science behind why it happens, not the belief or theory. Which is why it can't be answered as to whether we are still evolving or not. As a fact, natural selection is a theory. Also the original starting point has not been proved scientifically. So the argument is really between people who believe in a random event and people who believe in intelligent design. Why has this thread about a video game become a pissing match between both sides?
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You won't get flamed from me because i know you are doing it just to be a jerk about it. At least say something of intelligence. After 2,000 (1700 if u want to be uber technical)years of Christianity it is still here and science has failed to disprove it, in fact it has enhanced its truth to us.
Science has proven the theory of evolution but it hasnt proved the bible is fact,god exist or that even jesus was real when we find his skeleton then we can all believe he was real.science hasn't proved god is real.I think for someone to create 9 planets which revolve and with moons revoling around each planet he must of been a mad scientist or mathamatical genius.christianity,atheistism,holy karan,buddism & other religions shouldn't be pushed in our face by videogames its bad enough mormans go to people houses preaching about god.
Science has proven micro-evolution true,macro evolution actually makes no sense if you think about and that is why no macro biologist believe it, but are forced to say they do for government funding. Think about birds. If we all started from a single celled organism(which is absurd) These birds had to of been land animals. As evolution was progressing it "determined" these birds need to have wings. But why for the 100 million years it would take evolution to grow wings capable that allows a bird to fly. If you had wings but couldn't fly that specie of bird would of gone extinct based on all the predators that could easily catch a grounded bird with wings as dead weight. So Evolution in fact makes no sense by going against it's very own nature. You say that the Bible cannot be proven and i agree, that is why you must have faith. Lucky enough for me I am man enough to accept something higher that me instead of thinking my baby boy is just a 500 million year long product of a random event
You have just supported evolution, "If you had wings but couldn't fly that specie of bird would of gone extinct"
excatly! the one who couldn't fly died out, the ones that could fly survived it's so simple.
Penguins survived by being able to survive cold weather conditions that other animals could not, apart from fish, which they eat as food.
Nothing is determined in evolution, the animals that are able to replicate without being killed or running out of food(I.e they have an advantage) survived, they ones that didn't have an advantage died out.
Giraffes are a perfect example:
At one point Giraffes had short necks, over millions of years some where born that had slightly longer necks, they where able to reach food that the short neck Giraffes could could not.
over time, more long neck Giraffes survived and pass on the their genetic material (replicated) and the short neck Giraffes died out as they could not reach the leaves for food.
natural selection is one of the simplest things.
only 1% of everything that has ever existed is still alive today, which proves just how perfect everything is on earth and how thing must have adapted to survive.
You survived you passed on your genetic material and human race continues, if humans for whatever reason could not replicate, we would become extinct. simple.
Natural selection may be one of the most simplest things, but how do evolution supporters know that life wasn't created to be that way? Turn to micro biologists who have "proven" evolution, and you realize that they cannot explain the mechanism behind it. The science behind why it happens, not the belief or theory. Which is why it can't be answered as to whether we are still evolving or not. As a fact, natural selection is a theory. Also the original starting point has not been proved scientifically. So the argument is really between people who believe in a random event and people who believe in intelligent design. Why has this thread about a video game become a pissing match between both sides?
There is no reason why it happens, it just happens over millions of years. we would not see any difference in our evolution for 100's of millions of years.
Evolution has not been dis-proven. whereas "facts" in The Bible have been dis-proven, you have to believe every word in the bible, you can't choose to believe certain parts of it, that misses the point entirely, And people seem to ignore the mistakes within the bible not small mistakes, BIG mistakes. God created heaven and earth, but doesn't mention the other 8 planets. God doesn't explain gravity, atoms, protons and neutrons, which are, loosely speaking, the building blocks of our universe.
The is also no reference to the dinosaurs, a talking snake and noahs ark. these are stories created by mankind, these do not exist in the animal kingdom, animals only objective is survival and replication, and until our mind developed that was our only goal as well.
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'dis-included'? what happened to 'excluded'?
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I really never thought the day would come where Evolution vs. Creation would become the subject of a thread on Afterdawn, which I associated - no offense to our dear friends at Afterdawn - with electronics, software and the workings of the internet.
Why is this relevant to 'Bible Adventures'?
Cannot we just get along? The mystery of life will continue. Abraham, Moses, the Flood, the Rapture, Mohammed, the Pope, Meccah, Israel, etc.., I'm confused and expect to remain that way.
Don't you all realize that most people don't give an official F... and that, in the end, it only matters that a person's freedom to believe whatever they want to, is the most essential principle of humanity/civilization? If you believe in a god, fine. If you don't, fine.
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It's still our only goal .. to reproduce and continue our genetic code.. and unless we put aside a lot of junk quickly we will fail, just like 99.9% of all species that have ever existed.
These games should carry an 18+ warning, just like the violent ones.. these are worse, they allow bigoted parents to indoctrinate their lies and false beliefs into children too young to make an informed choice about what is fantasy and what is real. Very few other games are sold with this false "truth" element .. How about Holocaust Tycoon? .. run your own death camp and get rich from the gold teeth then get yourself right to the top, eventually becoming Camp Commandant and a high ranking member of the party.... oh no.. FAR too close to an unpleasant truth. It would never happen, because it might upset some people. I wouldn't care. It could be educational and fact based. We know the facts of the matter so nothing apart from the possible back story.
This is where the lines get blurred as soon as religion comes into it. In the GTA series women are seen and treated as ho's and bitches.. We know that isn't true, but in the game it's accepted as a part of the fictitious world the game is set in. These games have an age rating because?.. to protect children who can't understand the difference between fantasy and reality.
In my world forcing lies on children as truth with the threat of a violent punishment if they refuse to accept and continue the lie is pure child abuse. There is no other way to see it. There is a matter of strong personal conscience.. My child was brought up free from these lies, but now as an adult it's up to her whatever crap she wants to believe.. the operative word being ADULT!
I don't believe this topic is still ongoing after I reported it as breaking one of the fundamental site rules.
Heres one I heard at the weekend..
"On the 9th day god created transpeople.. to keep the creationists straight about the truth of evolution and that everything is not perfect.. evolution makes various changes as a fact of itself otherwise we would all be blue slime.. live with it"
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There is a very simple concept people can not grasp.
IF WE DIDN'T HAVE RELIGION WE WOULDN'T HAVE WAR!
Think about a world where instead of arguing with each other's believes we all just get along because we all believe the same thing. No war no violence in the name of someones faith....just peace
what makes religion so great? I know some of you have had theses believes all of your life. But is that the only reason you have them? Because its what your parents taught you and you don't know anything else ?
And lets pretend for a second that it is %100 fact that there is a heaven and a hell and some kind of religion is %100 accurate.
how do you know that your religion is right?
What happens when you practice Christianity all your life and the Muslims were right not the Christians. Are you going to go to hell while the Muslim has 50 virgins up in the sky?
Think about all the religions in the world there are so many that believe so many different things. I just don't understand why people need a faith to be happy. I was a catholic most my life until I figured out that I really didn't believe any of this and that it was just pushed upon me by my family. I had to live my life different than I wanted to because of faith.
Now I just do what I want to do. I don't worry about what some God that might not even exist might think. I just have fun and live my life to the fullest, I don't live it scared and oppressed like many religious people I know.
I am not trying to start a fight or anything I just thought I would fully share my point of view. Maybe someone can give me some answers to some of those questions I asked maybe I am wrong....who knows
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Originally posted by stuntman_:
There is a very simple concept people can not grasp.
IF WE DIDN'T HAVE RELIGION WE WOULDN'T HAVE WAR!
Think about a world where instead of arguing with each other's believes we all just get along because we all believe the same thing. No war no violence in the name of someones faith....just peace
I disagree. Religion is not the cause of war. It's the scapegoat. Man is violent. If there were no modern day religion, there would be something made into a "religion" to justify a fight. People will always congregate in groups for some similar interests or common goal. Anyone outside of that interest or opposed to that goal would inherently always be the enemy. People in power have used religion to their benefit. Religion has been used as a tool of manipulation by many nations. If not religion, it would have been something else.
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Hey stuntman ..
I can answer that one for you..
Faith is an excuse for evil people.
Now then.. have a chew on this.. Evil people.. REALLY evil people will want to be seen as good people. Now somebody can be very good without believing in anything, they just like to help and do things of benefit to everybody. Evil people see this and stick the label of a religion on them at the same time sticking the same label on themselves. They benefit by he perception that by wearing that brand they are seen also as the good people even though they actually are horrid devisive nasty people who only ever do things which hurt and marginalise others.
They organise into sects and exclude anybody who does not 100% agree with what they say. They poison the good people with their presence and their untruths.
A good person does not need religion to be a good person, but an evil person needs it totally to make themselves look good and to gain power by association.
Remember a little of the late stone age religion of Egypt about what happens at death... the weighing of the heart against the feather of truth.. Now then.. that is older than any of the monotheistic totalitarian religions... by a few thousand years. It is a self judgement on how a person has lived their life to themselves and towards others. Have they told the truth and acted in a good way always and so have died with a light and pure heart, or have they lied and cheated and manipulated their way to the grave and so have a heavy heart? .. the feather of truth.. a feather..
We have that carved in stone by the people concerned.. it hasn't been copied and manipulated and messed about with to suit various political situations over the centuries.. it's raw from the horses mouth so to speak.. at least it is in it's later form as all these things stem from a far older oral source.
I would suggest having a good look at the pre-abahamic religions, and those of the americas and aboriginal peoples everywhere. There are interesting parallels from right back. The similarities are such that I think there may be faint echoes of something believed by those couple of hunderd people who came out of Africa 60,000 years ago and colonised the planet.
and then we have people like riprat.. closed minded? .. yes riprat .. you.. an apologist.. if religion was so right why does it need defending by the likes of you? .. probably because when faced with informed fact and truth it falls down like a house of cards.
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"Cannot we just get along? The mystery of life will continue. Abraham, Moses, the Flood, the Rapture, Mohammed, the Pope, Meccah, Israel, etc.., I'm confused and expect to remain that way."
Gee, I am quoting myself...
There are obviously still a lot of people dragging themselves through the day worrying about the "Meaning Of Life" and the instinctive urge to expect an After Life of some sort...
Let me tell you: YOU WILL NEVER KNOW UNTIL YOU DIE.
Can we talk about something else? I do like video games but I just can't push the right buttons...
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Originally posted by emugamer:
Originally posted by stuntman_:
There is a very simple concept people can not grasp.
IF WE DIDN'T HAVE RELIGION WE WOULDN'T HAVE WAR!
Think about a world where instead of arguing with each other's believes we all just get along because we all believe the same thing. No war no violence in the name of someones faith....just peace
I disagree. Religion is not the cause of war. It's the scapegoat. Man is violent. If there were no modern day religion, there would be something made into a "religion" to justify a fight. People will always congregate in groups for some similar interests or common goal. Anyone outside of that interest or opposed to that goal would inherently always be the enemy. People in power have used religion to their benefit. Religion has been used as a tool of manipulation by many nations. If not religion, it would have been something else.
This a very interesting point. You are really making me think on this one lol
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This clearly out of place discussion about religion was inevitable you know... That being said... this is just a game, please calm down.
Everything will be okay without you trying to impose your values and/or beliefs onto others. If the title was like... President changing religion to Mormonism or something, that could spark some interesting discussion, but it's just a game. Wtf am I doing trying to REASON on the Internet lol@me.
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Amen (and I mean, literally)
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Originally posted by scum101:
2 each of the unclean animals.. 7 of the clean ones.. funny how that gets missed..
I prefer Bill Cosby's take on the god v noah story (we know noah was a Sumerian anyhow.. and the flood was just a bit larger than normal, just exceptional enough to write a story about.
These games are fine.. as long as they are just games, and sold as stories not truth.
Religion has no place in a modern world.
The most ignorant comment of the day goes to scum!
Actually, it was an intelligent comment. He corrected the common "2 of each animal" mistake, he acknowledged that it is possible for a large (not global) flood to happen, and also makes the good point that what is contained in the bible are stories. There is no way to prove the validity of absolutely anything in that book. That's why religion is left to faith and that's why it should never be presented as fact.
But it can be disproved with logic, 100 million animals on one boat, with no food supply. - how big was this boat?
There is no doubt it can (and much has been) disproved. I'm an atheist,I was simply pointing out that scum was correcting common errors that even christians make. People can have their religion as long as it doesn't encroach on everyone's rights, education and government.
Originally posted by John_Donn:
Science has proven micro-evolution true,macro evolution actually makes no sense if you think about and that is why no macro biologist believe it, but are forced to say they do for government funding. Think about birds. If we all started from a single celled organism(which is absurd) These birds had to of been land animals. As evolution was progressing it "determined" these birds need to have wings. But why for the 100 million years it would take evolution to grow wings capable that allows a bird to fly. If you had wings but couldn't fly that specie of bird would of gone extinct based on all the predators that could easily catch a grounded bird with wings as dead weight. So Evolution in fact makes no sense by going against it's very own nature. You say that the Bible cannot be proven and i agree, that is why you must have faith. Lucky enough for me I am man enough to accept something higher that me instead of thinking my baby boy is just a 500 million year long product of a random event
Science has actually proven both macro and micro evolution. There is no sense arguing about it. It is the equivalent of arguing that the world is flat. Why isn't it possible to embrace evolution and still maintain your beliefs? Embracing evolution hurts religion no more than discovering that earth was, in fact, not the center of the universe. This bandwagoning the church has created against evolution makes no sense.
Originally posted by scum101:
These games should carry an 18+ warning, just like the violent ones.. these are worse, they allow bigoted parents to indoctrinate their lies and false beliefs into children too young to make an informed choice about what is fantasy and what is real. Very few other games are sold with this false "truth" element .. How about Holocaust Tycoon? .. run your own death camp and get rich from the gold teeth then get yourself right to the top, eventually becoming Camp Commandant and a high ranking member of the party.... oh no.. FAR too close to an unpleasant truth. It would never happen, because it might upset some people. I wouldn't care. It could be educational and fact based. We know the facts of the matter so nothing apart from the possible back story.
Agreed.
Originally posted by stuntman_:
IF WE DIDN'T HAVE RELIGION WE WOULDN'T HAVE WAR!
Think about a world where instead of arguing with each other's believes we all just get along because we all believe the same thing. No war no violence in the name of someones faith....just peace
I wouldn't go that far to proclaim that there would be world peace without religion. Naturally humans are violent creatures. It is one of many traits that has allowed us to evolve in this competitive world. There is quite a bit of evidence that supports violence between members of hominid tribes from the paleolithic era. Humans naturally dislike those who are not like the people in their pack, hence, violence involving religion, race, sexuality, geographic locations, and even sports team affiliations. The list goes on.
Originally posted by siber:
Can we talk about something else? I do like video games but I just can't push the right buttons...
Siber, I don't mean to sound rude so please do not take offense. This topic is about a religious game that has been labeled as "vital to a child's development." It's difficult to discuss a religious game without discussing religion. If you don't like the topic there are thousands of other threads to post in that do not involve religion.
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jsut because something has been said tis vital doesnt mean it is though. IF the parents want their child to leanr about christianity, this is but one way for this to be achived. for those that dont,no worries, dont buy the games for your kids :)
now can we all get along?
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Why I always don't talk about music, politics, or religion.
Everybody has something that they like/dislike (and the same for me).
If you don't like it (favorite singer, why you vote[or not], and what you believe in[or don't]) move on to something else, and move on.
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Originally posted by getanacct:
Why I always don't talk about music, politics, or religion.
Everybody has something that they like/dislike (and the same for me).
If you don't like it (favorite singer, why you vote[or not], and what you believe in[or don't]) move on to something else, and move on.
i think is positive to have an open discussion about these things
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You won't get flamed from me because i know you are doing it just to be a jerk about it. At least say something of intelligence. After 2,000 (1700 if u want to be uber technical)years of Christianity it is still here and science has failed to disprove it, in fact it has enhanced its truth to us.
Science has proven the theory of evolution but it hasnt proved the bible is fact,god exist or that even jesus was real when we find his skeleton then we can all believe he was real.science hasn't proved god is real.I think for someone to create 9 planets which revolve and with moons revoling around each planet he must of been a mad scientist or mathamatical genius.christianity,atheistism,holy karan,buddism & other religions shouldn't be pushed in our face by videogames its bad enough mormans go to people houses preaching about god.
Science has proven micro-evolution true,macro evolution actually makes no sense if you think about and that is why no macro biologist believe it, but are forced to say they do for government funding. Think about birds. If we all started from a single celled organism(which is absurd) These birds had to of been land animals. As evolution was progressing it "determined" these birds need to have wings. But why for the 100 million years it would take evolution to grow wings capable that allows a bird to fly. If you had wings but couldn't fly that specie of bird would of gone extinct based on all the predators that could easily catch a grounded bird with wings as dead weight. So Evolution in fact makes no sense by going against it's very own nature. You say that the Bible cannot be proven and i agree, that is why you must have faith. Lucky enough for me I am man enough to accept something higher that me instead of thinking my baby boy is just a 500 million year long product of a random event
You have just supported evolution, "If you had wings but couldn't fly that specie of bird would of gone extinct"
excatly! the one who couldn't fly died out, the ones that could fly survived it's so simple.
Penguins survived by being able to survive cold weather conditions that other animals could not, apart from fish, which they eat as food.
Nothing is determined in evolution, the animals that are able to replicate without being killed or running out of food(I.e they have an advantage) survived, they ones that didn't have an advantage died out.
Giraffes are a perfect example:
At one point Giraffes had short necks, over millions of years some where born that had slightly longer necks, they where able to reach food that the short neck Giraffes could could not.
over time, more long neck Giraffes survived and pass on the their genetic material (replicated) and the short neck Giraffes died out as they could not reach the leaves for food.
natural selection is one of the simplest things.
only 1% of everything that has ever existed is still alive today, which proves just how perfect everything is on earth and how thing must have adapted to survive.
You survived you passed on your genetic material and human race continues, if humans for whatever reason could not replicate, we would become extinct. simple.
i did not support evoloution. For an animal to grow wings based on evoloution it would take millions of years. In those millions of year every animal evoloution "told" to grow wings would have been made extinct very fast. I am not referring to penguins,i am referring to the everday common pidgeon or hummingbird. If you took away there flight they would be defenseless and easy prey. Evoloution contradicts itself in this example. Why would the genetic code change in the animal to make itself much weaker? And macro evoloution has never been proven. It is a theory just like all science is,it is continually changing and making adjustments. I am not forcing anything on anyone and neither is this game. If you don't want the game don't buy it,i doubt your 6 year old will wonder into gamestop and buy a 65 dollar game
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15. December 2009 @ 01:36 |
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And people seem to ignore the mistakes within the bible not small mistakes, BIG mistakes. God created heaven and earth, but doesn't mention the other 8 planets. God doesn't explain gravity, atoms, protons and neutrons, which are, loosely speaking, the building blocks of our universe.
Genesis 1:28
"And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth."
Isn't science subduing and giving us dominion over the earth?
Originally posted by stuntman_:
There is a very simple concept people can not grasp.
IF WE DIDN'T HAVE RELIGION WE WOULDN'T HAVE WAR!
What happens when you practice Christianity all your life and the Muslims were right not the Christians. Are you going to go to hell while the Muslim has 50 virgins up in the sky?
Mark 12:31
"And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these."
If you loved your neighbor as yourself you wouldn't war with them just like you wouldn't war with yourself. You wouldn't kill, cheat, lie or steal from anyone you loved would you? Especially if it was your fathers son or daughter whom you loved the more for loving you enough to create you. 1 John 4:19 "We love him, because he first loved us." And as for fifty virgin ladies Jesus says in Luke 20:35, "But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:" and also in Matthew 22:30, "For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven." Originally posted by siber:
Let me tell you: YOU WILL NEVER KNOW UNTIL YOU DIE.
John 14:9, "Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?" As to say, you see God from his works. So if you love your neighbor as you love yourself then you should also care for them also going to heaven as well as yourself. Matthew 7:19, "Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire." Love your enemies and think of the poor before thinking of yourself. And Jesus says in Mark 16:15-16, "And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned." This is all and more in the kjv holy bible btw. But as for the game, no ones gonna force you to pay for it just like no one can force me to buy a copy of watchman for my ps3.
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15. December 2009 @ 02:08 |
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i doubt your 6 year old will wonder into gamestop and buy a 65 dollar game
No, instead the deluded parents will buy the game in an attempt to poison the well of knowledge of yet another generation, and the game company will earn money to fuel their propaganda machine (tax free of course).
It's vital for the church to instill religion into the youth while their brain is still malleable and easily exploitable. Religious videogames provide the perfect opportunity for this form of child abuse.
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15. December 2009 @ 04:35 |
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i doubt your 6 year old will wonder into gamestop and buy a 65 dollar game
No, instead the deluded parents will buy the game in an attempt to poison the well of knowledge of yet another generation, and the game company will earn money to fuel their propaganda machine (tax free of course).
It's vital for the church to instill religion into the youth while their brain is still malleable and easily exploitable. Religious videogames provide the perfect opportunity for this form of child abuse.
child abuse.....lol your funny,how can you defend a belief in nothing so viohemently. Why can i not have the right to free speech and press? Oh, thats right im a Christian. haha this is too much fun
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15. December 2009 @ 05:18 |
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John_Donn, you have free speech and press. Even though I disagree with Joshewah's assessment that these video games with religious themes represent child abuse, his comment is not an assault on your "free speech".
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15. December 2009 @ 10:43 |
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belief in nothing.
That's sort of like Jewish Nazis, black KKK members, or the color clear... isn't it? I hope you see where I was going with the redundancies.
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Why can i not have the right to free speech and press? Oh, thats right im a Christian. haha this is too much fun
Have all the free speech you want. If parents respect their kids they won't force their beliefs on them. I see it as a form of abuse because in a sense it is brainwashing. There are people out there who think dinosaur fossils are a test from god (another delusional theory states that they are a temptation of the devil). There are people who believe the world was literally flooded globally. There are people who believe the world is only 6000 years old, and of course the people who reject evolution.
Its unfair to the kids to not allow them to choose and look at the facts when they are of a more mature age. Instead, each generation slaps the next generation's brains senseless with with the same 3000 year-old voodoo. Then they fill the child's head with nonsense about why certain sciences, like evolution, can't possibly be even though these parents speaking against it have no scientific background to support their arguments.
At one time people didn't want to believe the earth and planets revolved around he sun because it went against the notion the earth was the special center of the universe. It wasn't until the 20th century that the Vatican officially acknowledged the heliocentric model of the solar system (no joke, here is the link) hundreds of years after it was supported by the scientific community and the majority. Evolution is now facing the same scrutiny unfortunately.
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