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UK government to adopt 'three strikes' Internet piracy bill
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article published on 28 October, 2009
Lord Mandelson has announced this week that the UK will in fact be adopting the highly controversial 'three strikes' Internet piracy law, disconnecting multiple time offenders from the Internet while levying heavy fines.
The government added that first time offenders will likely be given a warning, then have their bandwidth restricted after a second offense. Third strike means being disconnected ... [ read the full article ]
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siber
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28. October 2009 @ 14:25 |
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If the intention of this legislation is to get people scared into spending more money on buying entertainment (Downloads, DVDs, CDs) and to make the legal system some money, only this last goal has a chance of succeeding. 'Legal' Entertainment is TOO expensive, that is the real problem.
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fgamer
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28. October 2009 @ 14:50 |
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Look out U.S., this is on the way. Why do I have a feeling Obama who I supported will be pushing something like this soon here in the US? He's wayyy too buddy buddy with Hollywood, heck he has ex-MPAA people in his cabinet. If he even dares to support a 3 strikes law I may actually vote republican for the first time. The U.S. looks at other countries implementing this law, and then they look and say...why shouldn't we do it too! These ISP's should be more aggressive because they're the ones who'll lose out. If they had any sense they'd send mass emails and mailings to people to tell them the downside on this and act now.
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stuntman_
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28. October 2009 @ 14:55 |
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Originally posted by fgamer:
Look out U.S., this is on the way. Why do I have a feeling Obama who I supported will be pushing something like this soon here in the US? He's wayyy too buddy buddy with Hollywood, heck he has ex-MPAA people in his cabinet. If he even dares to support a 3 strikes law I may actually vote republican for the first time. The U.S. looks at other countries implementing this law, and then they look and say...why shouldn't we do it too! These ISP's should be more aggressive because they're the ones who'll lose out. If they had any sense they'd send mass emails and mailings to people to tell them the downside on this and act now.
if we can look for other countries models on Internet laws and apply them to us why can't we do it with health care?
anyways thats besides the point
I agree I think the ISP's will be hurting and ill vote republican as well if Obama passes this law. I don't think that will happen though.
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slickwill
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28. October 2009 @ 15:18 |
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The people should ban together and find free "legal" sources of entertainment and make the entertainment industry suffer.
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windsong
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28. October 2009 @ 15:34 |
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Doesnt matter since the mullahs will take over the UK in 20 years anyway, and they will do the same. Guess if you value freedom you should move out of the UK!
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EvilDeeds
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28. October 2009 @ 18:36 |
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I wouldn't worry about this too much, it's unworkable for one, and for two it's just Mandy being a media-ho, the reason thing's wont happen properly until 2011 is because he won't have his job after a general election next year, he knows, we know it, all this is is him making sure he has friends to get into bed with once he's kicked out of government.... again! ;)
Incidentally, you guys (U.S) are getting net neutrality - and as far as I can tell that's obama's doing right? He can't be THAT bad when it comes to managing your interwebs?! :) Net neutrality won't happen over this side of the Atlantic... our retarded, money-grabbing politicians will see to that.
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FatalFlow
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29. October 2009 @ 01:47 |
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Originally posted by EvilDeeds:
I wouldn't worry about this too much, it's unworkable for one, and for two it's just Mandy being a media-ho, the reason thing's wont happen properly until 2011 is because he won't have his job after a general election next year, he knows, we know it, all this is is him making sure he has friends to get into bed with once he's kicked out of government.... again! ;)
Agreed. This ain't gonna happen, it's just politicians kicking up dust. I'm not worried in the slightest.
Originally posted by EvilDeeds:
Incidentally, you guys (U.S) are getting net neutrality - and as far as I can tell that's obama's doing right? He can't be THAT bad when it comes to managing your interwebs?! :) Net neutrality won't happen over this side of the Atlantic... our retarded, money-grabbing politicians will see to that.
Um, yes it will...the EU are going to force it, apparently as part of human rights laws (?!). You can thank Tony Blair for that one.
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29. October 2009 @ 02:44 |
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bring it i cant wait to get people banned off my Node, faster speeds for me.
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29. October 2009 @ 03:13 |
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I agree I think the ISP's will be hurting and ill vote republican as well if Obama passes this law. I don't think that will happen though.
Why would you do that? The republicans and the democrats are both slaves of the media industry (as well as other big corporations). If you want a change, vote for a third party. Your candidate probably won't win, but at least when the government messes everything up, you can say "I didn't vote for that guy".
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29. October 2009 @ 05:39 |
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siber
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29. October 2009 @ 07:39 |
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sj512, what language do you speak? I don't have a clue how to interpret your comment. It could be my own stupidity, I guess. Please, explain for us dummies.
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EvilDeeds
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29. October 2009 @ 08:38 |
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Originally posted by siber:
sj512, what language do you speak? I don't have a clue how to interpret your comment. It could be my own stupidity, I guess. Please, explain for us dummies.
I think he/she is saying that should this actually happen, then he/she will be downgrading his 50mb line (using Virgin Media I guess, since they are the only 50mb supplier here at the minute) to a 10mb line, which is the lowest line Virgin Media do.
Of course, without any grammar, punctuation or a coherent message, it's really up to interpretation!! :)
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29. October 2009 @ 09:08 |
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I wonder how long it'll take for people to start getting into trouble because wifi leeches are pirating things over their open connections. . .
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29. October 2009 @ 09:21 |
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maybe nobody has told Mr Meddlesome that there are many people in the UK that arent citizens (employers of the government), check it out on www.tpuc.org and I for one am not. Furthermore this statute only applys to persons and as I also not a person (although I have one) it doesnt affect me. Comments after you have researched it folks.
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29. October 2009 @ 09:21 |
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Has Mandy had another champagne lunch with David Geffen? I wonder how much Mandy's being paid by Geffen to introduce this Bill. Not so much cash-for-honours now, as cash-for-laws.
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Alec2
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29. October 2009 @ 09:46 |
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Good old UK - It takes forever to decide on something, and when they do as usual they go way over the top. In the UK due to everything being over taxed and over priced just about everyone has looked for a way to save money, downloading a torrent file or more is one of them. Do you ban the lot, I don't think so.
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29. October 2009 @ 10:19 |
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I agree I think the ISP's will be hurting and ill vote republican as well if Obama passes this law. I don't think that will happen though.
Why would you do that? The republicans and the democrats are both slaves of the media industry (as well as other big corporations). If you want a change, vote for a third party. Your candidate probably won't win, but at least when the government messes everything up, you can say "I didn't vote for that guy".
The only way to break the 2 party system is to vote for a third party. My choice would be Libertarian, but it's up to you.
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fgamer
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29. October 2009 @ 18:18 |
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Originally posted by siber:
sj512, what language do you speak? I don't have a clue how to interpret your comment. It could be my own stupidity, I guess. Please, explain for us dummies.
No need for him to explain because if he did try to explain any further, it wouldn't be understandable. So it's not your stupidity because he never finished first grade!
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29. October 2009 @ 19:32 |
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if they are cracking down on piracy and pirates,
we need to crack down on them. HARD
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30. October 2009 @ 02:18 |
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Originally posted by david94:
if they are cracking down on piracy and pirates,
we need to crack down on them. HARD
.....settle down, masked avenger....
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sj512
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30. October 2009 @ 06:01 |
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Originally posted by siber:
sj512, what language do you speak? I don't have a clue how to interpret your comment. It could be my own stupidity, I guess. Please, explain for us dummies.
I think he/she is saying that should this actually happen, then he/she will be downgrading his 50mb line (using Virgin Media I guess, since they are the only 50mb supplier here at the minute) to a 10mb line, which is the lowest line Virgin Media do.
Of course, without any grammar, punctuation or a coherent message, it's really up to interpretation!! :)
this is what i meant to say sorry for any confusion and i did finish first grade just
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30. October 2009 @ 13:48 |
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nethy, don't follow you mate. I had a look though a few things on that site and found it interesting, don't quite understand what you mean though.
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bogwart16
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30. October 2009 @ 15:41 |
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Originally posted by windsong:
Doesnt matter since the mullahs will take over the UK in 20 years anyway, and they will do the same. Guess if you value freedom you should move out of the UK!
Don't talk like a moron in a sensible thread, and don't post racist crap like this. It's just stupid, and so are you if you believe it.
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30. October 2009 @ 20:40 |
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This remember me the matrix movie when Neo needed to hide to hack software undergrounds, now is going to become a pure real life, lets suppose you want a movie that didn't come to your country or a classic hard to find one, which is copyrighted in the respective country, you won't be able to share it to the world and unable to download it, but you cannot even buy it!!!, then you gonna find out the way to share it or download it anyways but has to be totally underground, if you get caught it'll be a legal offense and then u can go to jail, hmm, then ANYONE can go to jail, why? how can u prove you didn't do it? this is an easy way to disapear smart people....remember one little thing: in computer systems everything is posible and really hard to prove that you did or not did something without having an advance computer knowledge and not even, is kinda like the anti-terrorism law.
To the entertainment industry: is time to thing on lower prices, I like the idea to have a blu-ray show/movies for 5~10dls, think how much everybody can win. (I think is worth to pay 5~10dls that download 5 or 6 gigs for on a blu-ray)
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31. October 2009 @ 00:12 |
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i got an idea!
store all of your pirated data on a hard drive, cover it up, burry it in the garden and ask ISPs to prove you did it :)
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