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Newbie wants to know what to consider when buying media
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qpasha
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19. August 2004 @ 08:01 |
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I basically found out the hard way that not all media are created equal, so i figured i'd ask what things there are to consider when buying media.
1. I just found out about the media compatibility with the brand of burner that you have.
2. What are the differences between the dyes, i read about organic dyes, azo, metal azo, super azo, super sensitive dyes? whats the difference, and is ther any one that is better than the others.
3. Which is the media that has that really cool purple looking back, like the one on some ps2 disc, sorry just couldn't resist asking, and is it any good.
Dell Dimension 2400 - 2.66Ghz P4 - 256ram - 80GB HD
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Samsung SD-616E DVD-ROM
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DVD Decrypter 3.2
Adaptec ASPI 4.71.2
NERO 6.3.1.20(pack 1,2,& 4 updates)
Unifino DVD-r 4x 4.7GB Media code UTJR001001
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toyfigure
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19. August 2004 @ 10:43 |
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As far as I know a lot of the blank DVD media has purple backs on it.
And as for PS2 purple discs, those are CDs, not DVD.
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19. August 2004 @ 12:11 |
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first you need to know if you have a dual format burner.. you know +/- R media burner. secondly like the mate above me said, the purple ps2 discs are not dvds, they are cd-roms. and lastly, i strongly recommend you buying Ritek media.. from newegg.com and you wont go wrong
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qpasha
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19. August 2004 @ 12:23 |
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i have a nec 2510a dual layer +/- drive. I got the unifino dvd-r from newegg, the reviews ther were good with the drive that i have, so a 100pack for $34 with free shipping seemed like a good deal, i've been researching and these results http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=102568&highlight=unifino with the right firmware seem to be good
Dell Dimension 2400 - 2.66Ghz P4 - 256ram - 80GB HD
Nec 2510a dvd+/-rw dual layer
Samsung SD-616E DVD-ROM
DVD Shrink 3.2
DVD Decrypter 3.2
Adaptec ASPI 4.71.2
NERO 6.3.1.20(pack 1,2,& 4 updates)
Unifino DVD-r 4x 4.7GB Media code UTJR001001
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19. August 2004 @ 12:27 |
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well i hope they work for you.. but i havent heard anything about that media, i wouldve bought the ritek's. but to each its own
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qpasha
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19. August 2004 @ 19:40 |
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i wouldve bought the ritek's
yeah i completley agree, but when i bought them i hadnt realized that all media arent created equal. What i meant was that, initially i panicked because i thought i had garbage, but after the reasearch it seems that the media is not that bad, just not weell known. did you see the results in the link, i'm new so alot of the info went over my head, but what i understood looks ok, do you agree.
Dell Dimension 2400 - 2.66Ghz P4 - 256ram - 80GB HD
Nec 2510a dvd+/-rw dual layer
Samsung SD-616E DVD-ROM
DVD Shrink 3.2
DVD Decrypter 3.2
Adaptec ASPI 4.71.2
NERO 6.3.1.20(pack 1,2,& 4 updates)
Unifino DVD-r 4x 4.7GB Media code UTJR001001
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19. August 2004 @ 20:39 |
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Hi,
Unifina aroused my interest after looking at comments on other sites so tonight I ordered a 25 pack ($11.99) for testing just because I love to live on the edge :P
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19. August 2004 @ 20:40 |
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Apparently they're made in Japan too!
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"And there we saw the giants, and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight" - Numbers 13:33
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qpasha
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19. August 2004 @ 22:08 |
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because I love to live on the edge
absolutley hilarious, i just hope you're not mad at me if they suck, but did you check the link, they seem to work pretty good in the results, right?
Dell Dimension 2400 - 2.66Ghz P4 - 256ram - 80GB HD
Nec 2510a dvd+/-rw dual layer
Samsung SD-616E DVD-ROM
DVD Shrink 3.2
DVD Decrypter 3.2
Adaptec ASPI 4.71.2
NERO 6.3.1.20(pack 1,2,& 4 updates)
Unifino DVD-r 4x 4.7GB Media code UTJR001001
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qpasha
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20. August 2004 @ 09:40 |
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Nephilim, i got the unifino's today, i gotta say that the disk themselves look beautiful, they have a clear opaque layer on the top and they are a light purple on the writing side, i'll scan and post for others a soon as i get my printer installed
Dell Dimension 2400 - 2.66Ghz P4 - 256ram - 80GB HD
Nec 2510a dvd+/-rw dual layer
Samsung SD-616E DVD-ROM
DVD Shrink 3.2
DVD Decrypter 3.2
Adaptec ASPI 4.71.2
NERO 6.3.1.20(pack 1,2,& 4 updates)
Unifino DVD-r 4x 4.7GB Media code UTJR001001
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datageek
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20. August 2004 @ 10:16 |
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Just like everything else that would cost me $$ I lurked on this board for over several months reading and reading. I've had only 3 coasters but that's from my own fault. duh I have use TDK's both +/- R's and the Ritek's GO4's - no problems. Listen to what everyone has said about their use of media and also check for player compatability.
Good Luck
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20. August 2004 @ 10:28 |
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No worries or blame to be spread if they suck, that's why I only ordered 25. There's always data to be witten slowly if they do suck :)
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"And there we saw the giants, and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight" - Numbers 13:33
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20. August 2004 @ 10:32 |
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Just like everything else that would cost me $$
Lol! I like the way you think :)
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I lurked on this board for over several months reading and reading
A bit of time spent researching pays off doesn't it? I've helped many folks who jumped in feet first and only came here after their pile of coasters became unbearably high :)
My killer sig came courtesy of bb "El Jefe" mayo.
The Forum Rules You Agreed To! http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/2487
"And there we saw the giants, and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight" - Numbers 13:33
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Coba
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20. August 2004 @ 12:11 |
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Over here in Japan Unifino is rated as the worst Made in Japan Media....its rated lower than Ritek...and Ritek is also rated as poor Media over here...
Over here TYs,TDKs and Maxells Made in Japan are rated as the best.
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qpasha
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21. August 2004 @ 05:52 |
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I burned 4 backups with out any coasters, the quality as far as i can tell is fine, they look just like the originals to me, but im no expert, they just burn really slow, i think i need to update firmware.
Dell Dimension 2400 - 2.66Ghz P4 - 256ram - 80GB HD
Nec 2510a dvd+/-rw dual layer
Samsung SD-616E DVD-ROM
DVD Shrink 3.2
DVD Decrypter 3.2
Adaptec ASPI 4.71.2
NERO 6.3.1.20(pack 1,2,& 4 updates)
Unifino DVD-r 4x 4.7GB Media code UTJR001001
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21. August 2004 @ 09:23 |
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Hi,
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they just burn really slow
What speed are they burning at? How many minutes does it take to burn?
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"And there we saw the giants, and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight" - Numbers 13:33
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qpasha
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21. August 2004 @ 10:28 |
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when i use the decrypter, both time when i left it at m,x and at 4x, it said like 1.5x was the avg, i have run the Nero cd/dvd speed test, or the scan disk yet so i'm sure thats not accurate. it's taking a little over half an hour.
Dell Dimension 2400 - 2.66Ghz P4 - 256ram - 80GB HD
Nec 2510a dvd+/-rw dual layer
Samsung SD-616E DVD-ROM
DVD Shrink 3.2
DVD Decrypter 3.2
Adaptec ASPI 4.71.2
NERO 6.3.1.20(pack 1,2,& 4 updates)
Unifino DVD-r 4x 4.7GB Media code UTJR001001
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qpasha
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21. August 2004 @ 10:29 |
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have not run the tests i mean.
Dell Dimension 2400 - 2.66Ghz P4 - 256ram - 80GB HD
Nec 2510a dvd+/-rw dual layer
Samsung SD-616E DVD-ROM
DVD Shrink 3.2
DVD Decrypter 3.2
Adaptec ASPI 4.71.2
NERO 6.3.1.20(pack 1,2,& 4 updates)
Unifino DVD-r 4x 4.7GB Media code UTJR001001
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21. August 2004 @ 10:38 |
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My killer sig came courtesy of bb "El Jefe" mayo.
The Forum Rules You Agreed To! http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/2487
"And there we saw the giants, and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight" - Numbers 13:33
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qpasha
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21. August 2004 @ 20:45 |
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i went to the Nero info tool.
1. I went to configuration, and for some reason my smasumg dvd-rom is set to master with dma on, and my nec 2510a is set to slave with dma off. i;m gonna open the computer up and check the setting of cs again, because when i try to change to dma if available,in the device manager it wont change from PI mode.
2. i also used the Nero info tool, and under disk it has the mnufacturer id listed with suggested speeds, so i think its recognizing the media, or does it have to list the name.
Dell Dimension 2400 - 2.66Ghz P4 - 256ram - 80GB HD
Nec 2510a dvd+/-rw dual layer
Samsung SD-616E DVD-ROM
DVD Shrink 3.2
DVD Decrypter 3.2
Adaptec ASPI 4.71.2
NERO 6.3.1.20(pack 1,2,& 4 updates)
Unifino DVD-r 4x 4.7GB Media code UTJR001001
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qpasha
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21. August 2004 @ 21:14 |
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i checked, the pegs on the back of both drives are on cs, i think thats right, right? i checked the device manager and its still on pi mode, een after toggling.
Dell Dimension 2400 - 2.66Ghz P4 - 256ram - 80GB HD
Nec 2510a dvd+/-rw dual layer
Samsung SD-616E DVD-ROM
DVD Shrink 3.2
DVD Decrypter 3.2
Adaptec ASPI 4.71.2
NERO 6.3.1.20(pack 1,2,& 4 updates)
Unifino DVD-r 4x 4.7GB Media code UTJR001001
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21. August 2004 @ 22:19 |
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Hello again,
The ideal setup for two drives is to have the burner as the master drive on the cable (the one at the very end) with the jumper on the back set to master as well. The reader should be the slave drive on the cable (in the middle) with the jumper set to slave.
After you get those configured if the drives still refuse to go to DMA it may help to uninstall the drives through Device Manager and let windows redetect the drives. Here's how:
Go to Device Manager >
Expand the tree for DVD/CD ROM Drives >
Find the drive in question, right click it and go to Properties >
Under the Driver tab, select Uninstall then OK.
Now reboot and Windows should detect and reinstall the drive.
Let us know how it goes :)
My killer sig came courtesy of bb "El Jefe" mayo.
The Forum Rules You Agreed To! http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/2487
"And there we saw the giants, and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight" - Numbers 13:33
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qpasha
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21. August 2004 @ 22:50 |
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thanks for the info, i dontknow how you guys knwo what you know, but thank i;m sure glad you do, i'll take my computer apart again.
Off this subject, you know when we were talking about the rare case when the skrink cant decrpyt, i think i found a disk that cant "the usual suspects" special edition, shrink keeps freezing when i try to back up and it gives an error message i know thats vague, when i get back on if i have the same problem i'll post the error in the newbies forum, so others might get help out of it as well. thanks for all your help, hopefully i can do the same for someone someday.
Dell Dimension 2400 - 2.66Ghz P4 - 256ram - 80GB HD
Nec 2510a dvd+/-rw dual layer
Samsung SD-616E DVD-ROM
DVD Shrink 3.2
DVD Decrypter 3.2
Adaptec ASPI 4.71.2
NERO 6.3.1.20(pack 1,2,& 4 updates)
Unifino DVD-r 4x 4.7GB Media code UTJR001001
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qpasha
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21. August 2004 @ 23:16 |
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i re did the setup, the burner is the master now and the dma is on, the dvd-rom is the slave and dma is off, is it ok that dma is off on that one.
Dell Dimension 2400 - 2.66Ghz P4 - 256ram - 80GB HD
Nec 2510a dvd+/-rw dual layer
Samsung SD-616E DVD-ROM
DVD Shrink 3.2
DVD Decrypter 3.2
Adaptec ASPI 4.71.2
NERO 6.3.1.20(pack 1,2,& 4 updates)
Unifino DVD-r 4x 4.7GB Media code UTJR001001
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qpasha
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21. August 2004 @ 23:31 |
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i uninstalled the dvd-rom, shut down, then restarted it detected, but still no dma, so i went through the device manager and toggled, but still pio mode. i know i asked if the dma is ok to be off, i i tried letting it rip reading through the dvd-rom and instaed of a couple minutes it telling me a like and hour so i got the answer to that question, NO. so i guess im stuck at trying to turn the dma on again, ill just uses the one drive for now, but i need to get both up and running so i dont put too much wear on the burner.
Dell Dimension 2400 - 2.66Ghz P4 - 256ram - 80GB HD
Nec 2510a dvd+/-rw dual layer
Samsung SD-616E DVD-ROM
DVD Shrink 3.2
DVD Decrypter 3.2
Adaptec ASPI 4.71.2
NERO 6.3.1.20(pack 1,2,& 4 updates)
Unifino DVD-r 4x 4.7GB Media code UTJR001001
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