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ProDisc DVD-R's rule
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joedogg
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27. September 2004 @ 02:13 |
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prodisk silver work good for me but the only problem i have is they only burn at 2x in my maddog sdr5112. but the other day i got a 50 pack of prodisk matte and they burned at 4x 15 minutes a copy but i had 10 coasters and i use smartburn to identify the media it wasn't prodisk it was mitsubishi. i also had some disks come back with skips on them.
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djkilla
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27. September 2004 @ 08:37 |
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prodisk silver work good for me but the only problem i have is they only burn at 2x in my maddog sdr5112. but the other day i got a 50 pack of prodisk matte and they burned at 4x 15 minutes a copy but i had 10 coasters and i use smartburn to identify the media it wasn't prodisk it was mitsubishi. i also had some disks come back with skips on them.
Interesting. I haven't found to many people who have had problems using ProDisc media. Just for your info, when you identified the DVD±R as Mitsubishi (Mitsubishi Chemical Corp/MCC), that's the dye used which is one of the best. As for the coasters, always be sure you're using the latest firmware, latest burning software and you shouldn't have a problem. If you ever do have problems burning, just lower the burning speed and this will save you from creating more coasters. Believe me, ProDisc is one of the many reliable DVD-R's you can by. **Make sure it's ProDisc certified by Pioneer**
-D j K i l l a-
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rayboy
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29. September 2004 @ 16:36 |
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prodisk silver work good for me but the only problem i have is they only burn at 2x in my maddog sdr5112. but the other day i got a 50 pack of prodisk matte and they burned at 4x 15 minutes a copy but i had 10 coasters and i use smartburn to identify the media it wasn't prodisk it was mitsubishi. i also had some disks come back with skips on them.
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Joedogg.
you got very interesting post here, I burn about more than 200 Prodisc -R 4X, and some 8X and I dont recall that I have any coaster. I even drop Ritek and stay with Prodisc. I used Sony 510, and pioneer 108 to burn, can your maddog sdr5112 burner burn the other DVD brand OK.
MCC is one of the best DVD die, when I buy Prodisc DVD blank I just hope that I can get MCC intead of Prodisc (and many people like me too)
May be a certain burner works well with a certain DVD brand ?????
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djkilla
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3. October 2004 @ 19:02 |
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rayboy, I'm with you. Looks like a lot of people are having problems with Ritek just like me. After switching to ProDisc (MCC dye), I've never had a problem. I did notice a new firmware (1.08) update for my Plextor PX-708A which is suppose to have better writing on Ritek media but honestly, why go back when ProDisc is fantastic media! I always order through rima.com and have been very satisfied with their service.
NOTE: For the Ritek users, it's possable that some burners handle Ritek media better than other burners which would explain why I'm having problems. If Ritek media works for you, great. I just have excellent results with ProDisc.
-D j K i l l a-
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3. October 2004 @ 20:09 |
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Hundreds of trouble free RiDATA burns on my PX-708A/fw 1.06 :)
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4. October 2004 @ 21:34 |
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5. October 2004 @ 04:30 |
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heheh ... it's like I tried to say :-)
One of the prime Prodisc coded blank media sold here is : Bulkpaq Orange x8 DVD-R [yeah like Id buy them over Ritek or Taiyo Yuden dye] LOL
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djkilla
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5. October 2004 @ 06:26 |
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Nephilim, your last post caught my attention. I noticed the guy was having problems with ProDisc media labled/identified as ProDisc. Kinda strange but I also noticed he used ProDisc which is labled/identified as MCC which he had perfect burns with. Just for the record, I've used ProDisc with the MCC dye and have perfect burns every time. I can't gurantee ProDisc identified as ProDisc but I can gurantee ProDisc identified as MCC is quality media!
Herbsman, are you saying that the ProDisc brand/name is the latest to have fakes like Ritek, Taiyo Yuden and others? According to your post, you identified the media as something other than what's the TRUE identity should be according to the DVD FAQ. Proof that fakes are on the rise. As for the real ProDisc brand, they tend to be quality media *if* identified as MCC just like Ritek is quality media *if* branded as RiData. <--How can you not agree with this. Even Taiyo Yuden has fakes but is quality media *if* identified to be the real thing.
***As I said before, be sure to buy ProDisc (certified by Pioneer) through a good reliable dealer to be sure you get the real thing.
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5. October 2004 @ 09:06 |
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I can't gurantee ProDisc identified as ProDisc but I can gurantee ProDisc identified as MCC is quality media!
That illustates the problem I have with any media that switches manufacturers. The fact that you never know what you're going to get is unacceptable to me. A conumer should be able to expect the same type and quality for any given media.
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djkilla
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5. October 2004 @ 10:09 |
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That illustates the problem I have with any media that switches manufacturers. The fact that you never know what you're going to get is unacceptable to me. A conumer should be able to expect the same type and quality for any given media.
I agree with you Nephilim. Perhaps the ProDisc media identified as ProDisc is DVD+R and the ProDisc media identified as MCC is DVD-R. Just a thought. I can't back that up but I will do a little more research to see what's reliable (ProDisc (MCC) -- matte top, silver top, white top, etc.). The following is what I personally always get which is always identified as MCC (The good stuff!):
http://tinyurl.com/3hq59
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5. October 2004 @ 10:18 |
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OK, I'd like to try Prodisc because they have hub-printable media. Does anyone have a supplier that they know has Prodisc identified as MCC - and how recent was your last purchase? Also, is there any recommendation for -R over +R, or vice-versa?
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5. October 2004 @ 11:02 |
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... I know that the only ProDisc product identified as MCC and Pioneer certified is the -R media ...
and Doc409 ... it appears to me that djkilla (in the post just before yours), has provided an excellent link to the remainder of your question ...
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5. October 2004 @ 12:19 |
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Hmmm ... the AD servers must be slow today. When I posted my message, djkilla's reply wasn't there.
@djkilla...the link you gave is for thermal printable, and I use inkjet. Have you used these for inkjet printing? Some work, and some don't.
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forkndave
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5. October 2004 @ 13:10 |
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5. October 2004 @ 13:22 |
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Thanks. I'll give them a try.
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rayboy
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6. October 2004 @ 10:13 |
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Attention MCC lover
Not all Prodisk have MCC code.
The Prodisc -R 4X if you order laterly you probaly get MCC code.
The Prodisc -R 8X will have code: PRODISC F01 (burn about 30 of them, so far none coasted, I dont say this is a good media until 50 go thru w/o any coaster).
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djkilla
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6. October 2004 @ 15:47 |
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Attention MCC lover
LMAO! Anyway, thanks for passing on the helpful info rayboy. I wasn't aware that 8X DVD-R ProDisc media was coded/identified differently from 4X DVD-R media. I'll have to keep that in mind if I decide to jump-up to 8X burning. Thanks again!
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forkndave
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6. October 2004 @ 22:39 |
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The last Prodisc -R 8X I received were MCC 02RG20. I did buy some Fuji discs locally that were Prodisc F01. I didn't have any coasters with them, but the errors with kprobe were higher.
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9. October 2004 @ 17:08 |
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I am wondering if any one is using the white printable discs.. do they have that glossy finish or do they just come with the matte papers.????
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forkndave
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9. October 2004 @ 17:36 |
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I haven't seen any glossy printables. Prodisc and ritek are both matte and have a smooth surface. Actually, I guess I did have a semi glossy looking thermal printable once, but I just had to write on it because ink wouldn't stick. It came in one of those sample packs that Meritline sells. Glossy would be nice, though. Incidentally, I don't think the printable surface is paper. I guess it could be, but it doesn't feel like it to me. It sure would be thin paper.
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9. October 2004 @ 17:43 |
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That matte finish is something other than paper. I've taken a few bad burns and scratched right through to the plastic disc.
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forkndave
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9. October 2004 @ 21:13 |
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I believe you're right about not being paper. I accidentally printed the wrong label on one once and tried to peel it off. That doesn't happen. It seems to me like it is a very thin layer of some sort of plastic. There's no way it could get loose or come off. I had some GQ (Lead Data)(pure crap) discs from Fry's once and the surface on them actually felt like paper. I notice that some discs (mostly the silver printables) have a rough feeling surface. I guess it doesn't matter too much as long as the print quality is decent.
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9. October 2004 @ 21:26 |
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The whites do print nicely with a fair degree of sharpness and clarity. The only complaint I would have is that reds don't print the same color showing on the screen very well. I've tried to correct this with Adobe Photoshop, but no luck. I just got some silver in, and I am going to try red on them.
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forkndave
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9. October 2004 @ 22:17 |
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Yeah, I've noticed that with reds too. I wonder if it has something to do with the computer monitor operates with primary colors (red, green, blue) and the printer prints with complimentary colors (nagenta, cyan, yellow). Red can be formed by just the red dots on the monitor and on the printer it is a blend of magenta and yellow. It amazes me that printers work as good as they do. PFM, I suppose.
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9. October 2004 @ 22:33 |
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It's down to a fine art right now. Folks who put artwork together for print...like magazine pictures...use Adobe Photoshop a lot. Photoshop can adjust your monitor colors to match the Pantone colors (a color chip thing graphic artists use much like paint chips at the paint store). And, somehow in all this your R200 printer is supposed to be able to match the Pantone colors...if you are printing on the right paper stock. I'm getting very close with glossy photo paper.
The thing with reds and the DVD matte finish is that there aren't enough pigment solids to cover the white, and so this finish absorbs a lot of the red...thus washing it out. This doesn't happen with glossy photo paper.
I just tried the silver and the reds comes a lot closer. The silver still abosrbs the ink, and there aren't enough solids to keep the red the same color. It is closer to the photo paper results, though. All in all, I don't have any complaints. I really like my DVD's with any kind of picture on them...and it beats a Sharpie!!!
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