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ProDisc DVD-R's rule
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PhuchLe
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10. October 2004 @ 16:58 |
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I'm a newbie, so bear with me. I've started researching a printer that will print on the surface of the DVD. It seems that Epson makes the only affordable ones. Has anyone seen a difference in the quality of either of the two lesser priced models (the R200 or R300)?
Also, does the silver finish really work? Does the color bleed on them or does it look sharp? I guess the same question would go for the white as well. I'm just curious how it works.
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10. October 2004 @ 17:19 |
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ritek ridata is not a bad brand. Let me start by saying that i also own a plextor 708A burner, expierence the same thing you did (Djkilla).. was surprise at first, since ive gone thru almost 400 burns on the ritek ridata brand, and no problem whats so ever. i than went to the plextor website, and thankfully i found the 1.08 firmware, installed it, restarted my computer, and im back in action with ritek ridata.. sometimes its not the media, its the burner.
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10. October 2004 @ 17:55 |
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PhuchLe...I have the R200. My research indicated that both use the same inkjet printing components...but that the R300 had extra features like a memory card reader. In this was it is geared to be a standalone photo printer, which I don't need.
I have used mostly white matte finish, and just experimented with the silver. The ink doesn't bleed or glob up on either surface of the Ridata's I tried. You do have to be careful to not smudge the ink on either for several hours. They recommend drying overnight.
The silver finish has a visible grain to it, and this can give the appearance of blurred edges...whereas the white images look sharper to me. This is especially true with letters and numbers. Both surfaces have their advantages, and I think it comes down to the image you want to print...and personal preference.
I would also mention that I scan at 300 dpi, and anything less than this is likely to result in an image that doesn't look as good as the original. I've also found that my scanner takes a lot longer above 300 dpi, and I can't tell the difference between the final image on the discs.
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PhuchLe
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11. October 2004 @ 08:59 |
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Thanks for the info Doc. On another point that was brought up in this thread. How do you know where the disc is made? I realize that you need to buy from a reputable retailer, but if I buy a 100 pack spindle with the expectation of getting MCC dye, how do I "guarantee" that?
It sounds to me like most of you (with exceptions, of course) think Prodisc is good as long as they are the MCC dye, so I want to buy them at the best source. Of course, I've been using Ridata for a few months and they seem to work great. How can I tell which dye is on the ones I have?
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djkilla
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11. October 2004 @ 09:22 |
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The following link has the ProDisc 4x DVD-R that I buy which always have the MCC dye:
http://tinyurl.com/3hq59
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It sounds to me like most of you (with exceptions, of course) think Prodisc is good as long as they are the MCC dye, so I want to buy them at the best source. Of course, I've been using Ridata for a few months and they seem to work great. How can I tell which dye is on the ones I have?
Too find out which dye/manufacturer of your DVD's, you can use the following:
DVDInfoPro
http://forums.speedlabs.org/index.php/topic,696.0.html
DVD Identifier
http://dvd.identifier.cdfreaks.com/
-D j K i l l a-
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Joel5000
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13. October 2004 @ 09:34 |
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I just received a 50 disc cakebox of Prodisc 4x White Inkjet Printable DVD-R from rima.com yesterday afternoon, and dvdinfopro identifies them as prodisc NOT MCC. I was hoping for the MCC discs, but so far I've had five good burns with these discs, so I can't really complain. I just wanted to let people know that ordering from rima.com will not necessarily get you the MCC discs.
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13. October 2004 @ 10:07 |
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I just wanted to let people know that ordering from rima.com will not necessarily get you the MCC discs.
It isn't rima.com's fault that Prodisc is unwilling to stick to a single manufacturer :)
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13. October 2004 @ 10:23 |
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rayboy
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13. October 2004 @ 11:49 |
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> if I buy a 100 pack spindle with the expectation of getting MCC dye, how do I "guarantee" that?
No guarantee.
> You do have to be careful to not smudge the ink on either for several hours. They recommend drying overnight.
5 minutes, that's all you need to wait for the ink dry.
Here how I did, I print the DVD label just before I burn the DVD, the ink will dry while DVD is burning.
MCC or Prodisk DVD code is not inportant because you are using the Dawnner approved DVD media ie. Ritek, Prodisk, if you get lot of coaster on those two medias that because you are bad luck (please dont join my lotery pool :-)
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14. October 2004 @ 20:02 |
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timnooij
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23. October 2004 @ 07:38 |
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I am using princo/thats write dvd's i burn them whit a pioneer burner and they worked in all dvd players (still) they worked in my ps2 that wassent chipped (only dvd movies) Because games dont work on unmodded ps2 they are cheap and good quality :D. Well 25 pieces 8 euro issent much.
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23. October 2004 @ 07:54 |
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You're a lucky soul indeed. I've seen relatively few people have such good luck with Princo :)
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timnooij
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23. October 2004 @ 14:43 |
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well most of the dvd are exactly the same they come from the same factory only there is a nother name on it.
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djkilla
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23. October 2004 @ 14:57 |
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Wow, my thread has been resurrected! Just wanted to point out that the ProDisc 4X DVD-R is the one that has MCC (Mitsubishi Chemical Corp) dye. **The reliable quality dye** Looks like other speeds or formats will get you the other dye which are creating some problems.
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23. October 2004 @ 17:44 |
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"And there we saw the giants, and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight" - Numbers 13:33
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wills916
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24. October 2004 @ 23:39 |
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I've been using almost all Fry's GQ branded printable 4x DVD-r media (leaddata01 from a few scans), and it seems about 50% of the time when playing these in my set top box there will be some, or extremely bad 'pixelation' sometimes to where the disc is unplayable. I thought this was maybe my burner, but decided to try some different media before buying another burner. So I borrowed a few Prodisc (MCC) 4x DVD-R's, and burned a few movies. I pop these in my set top box and I get a "disc error" message on my box. wtf? I have an old toshiba SD-1200 dvd player that has up till now played all dvd-r media OK, though not officially supported by toshiba. Both types of disc have the same (looking) purple burn surface, same write strategy, and same format. Any idea why the cheap ass gq media would work and the prodisc wont? My friend swears by prodisc, and I even borrowed a movie he burned on same media and it wont play in my set top player either.
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timnooij
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25. October 2004 @ 07:25 |
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try other dvd discs maybe you find good discs for your type of dvd player/burner? or. :D
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25. October 2004 @ 08:22 |
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djkilla
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25. October 2004 @ 10:47 |
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I agree with catfreak! Some media/brands burn better for some burners but may burn terrable in other burners. For example, I buy Ritek RiData 4X DVD-R media and it burns perfectly with NO coasters using my Plextor PX-708A. But someone else using the same Ritek RiData 4X DVD-R on a NEC, Pioneer, etc. may get lots of coasters from bad burns.
Hope this helps!
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rayboy
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25. October 2004 @ 12:14 |
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borrow from djkilla
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I agree with catfreak! Some media/brands burn better for some burners but may burn terrable in other burners.
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100% true.
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Joel5000
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29. October 2004 @ 08:39 |
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Just a little update. I've now burned 30 out of 50 of my prodisc media code dvd-rs, and I've only had two coasters. Both coasters were my fault because I failed to enable burn-proof and had buffer overruns. They also play flawlessly in my cheapo stand alone Daewoo DVD player. I'm actually going to order more, because the price is right: $20 for 50 inkjet printable 4x dvd-rs at rima.com.
EDIT: Just found a better deal: 100 4x white inkjet printable prodisc (certified by pioneer) dvd-r for $32 at supermediastore.com. These are hub printable.
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rayboy
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29. October 2004 @ 22:16 |
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My friend swears by prodisc, and I even borrowed a movie he burned on same media and it wont play in my set top player either.
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if DVD can play on his player but not your player then it's your player, not the DVD media.
I thew away my APEX 600A DVD player, and Hitachi 5 DVD carousel, because they cannot play DVD R/RW. And replace with CyberHome DVD player $40/pop at Best Buy, this DVD player is amazing, trouble free and it play anything that you put on the tray.
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forkndave
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1. November 2004 @ 22:39 |
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The last time I ordered Prodisc from Supermedia store I ordered some 4X and some 8X. Both were MCC 02RG20 which is the code for 8X. I burned both kinds at 8X and no coasters. Checking with Kprobe I find that ones sold as 4X had higher errors. Normally, I get lower errors with 4X discs. I just don't get as big a bump in the scan when my burner shifts from 6X to 8X. Apparently, lower quality 8X discs are being sold as 4X. I haven't had any problems with any of these discs, however. I see that Ritek has started producing hub printables. I have some G05 hub printables on order that I should receive tommorow. If the hub printable ones have the same surface as the non hub printable ones they should look pretty good. All the Riteks that I've used recently have printed with brighter colors than the Prodiscs. The Prodiscs are good, but I just thought the Riteks looked a little better. I guess I'll find out in the next day or so.
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