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Not so good news on Prodiscs
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bruceb3
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14. October 2004 @ 18:19 |
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Up until the end of Sept. all the Prodiscs I got identified as MCC's and even though rated at 4X, they burned at 8X. The newest ones I got are identified as Prodisc and if burned at 8X, all are coasters. Burned at 4X they're OK though. When these are gone, I'll find something else. Does anybody know who else MCC makes disks for cause they sure were nice!
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14. October 2004 @ 20:01 |
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Verbatim DataLifePlus Super AZO are MCC coded :)
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rayboy
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15. October 2004 @ 12:04 |
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> all the Prodiscs I got identified as MCC's and even though rated at 4X, they burned at 8X
I have Prodisc -R 4X, code MCC and burn with 8X burner, I set burn speed to MAX, I never can get burn speed more than 4X.
> The newest ones I got are identified as Prodisc and if burned at 8X, all are coasters.
I have burned about 40 DVD Prodisc -R 8X , ink jet printable media, code: PRODISC F01 . Bought DVD blank in USA, burnning speed I set to MAX and it burned at 6 - 7.2 , none of them coasted.
I burn with Pioneer DVR 108, firmware (dont know, cause I never upgrade).
Oh well what can I say.............
WHO ELSE HAVE PROBLEMS WITH PRODISC PLEASE POST SO WE ALL CAN SHARE THE INFO.
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madmax69
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18. October 2004 @ 10:19 |
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I had a similar problem as bruceb3 with the new prodiscs... Old MCC coded prodiscs dvd-r 4x white were rated at 4x but I often burned at 8 after I upgraded my firmware...I recently purchased a few of what I though were going to be the same discs from rima.com and then noticed prodisc changed the code to Prodisc S04 but these were not very good...so i returned all of those....I am really fed up with all of these brands...Optodisc,Prodisc,Ritek etc...I am not going to spend top dollar on Taiyo Yuden's either...so at a cheap price...I'm sticking with compusa princo's which my ps2 and stand alone love and if the data corrupts over time...so be it...I still have the originals...Everyone will say Ritek is great but too unreliable at this point...bla bla..and Taiyo Yuden ... thats too much $$ for me...and I'm sick of paying return shipping when discs suck... DAMN YOU DVD MEDIA COMPANIES!!!! WHY CAN'T YOU BE MORE CONSISTENT!!!!!! ..sorry...just needed to get that out of my system...
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18. October 2004 @ 10:59 |
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Quote:
DAMN YOU DVD MEDIA COMPANIES!!!! WHY CAN'T YOU BE MORE CONSISTENT!!!!!!
Lol! You're not the only one that feels that way :)
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mrman
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18. October 2004 @ 11:08 |
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Try some benQ media. Here in Canada its very cheap. I just recently tryed them and so far i havnt got any coasters out of about 20burns:) I have 4X which for me only burns at 2X untill lg comes out with there new firmware for my 4040B in about a month.
I know it does burn at 4X on many other burners though.
So i cant GREATLY recomend these as iv only burned 20 and they have been at 2X but so far im happy with them and they were very cheap so its an option for you.
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RicTheRed
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19. October 2004 @ 12:00 |
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I was not able to get good results with Prodisc +R 8x, code R03.
Pi/Pif tests very bad and compatibility is mediocre.
Burned with both Pioneer 108 and NU DDW-082,latest everything (F/W, S/W)
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StateQB
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20. October 2004 @ 09:12 |
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I got some 8X prodisc, they burn only at 1X on my Toshiba SD-R5112. My burner is a 4X burner, but for some reason it burns at 1X using decrypter. Anyone know why?
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20. October 2004 @ 09:47 |
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Which media code does your Prodiscs have?
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StateQB
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20. October 2004 @ 12:40 |
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The Media Code says, I think ProdiscF01. Not MCC. In the past it would say MCC, I would have no problems with MCC. But I am having problems with ProdiscF01.
I think I am going to get Ritek G04, I was told that they will work great on my Toshiba SD-R5112 burner.
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20. October 2004 @ 12:42 |
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MCC is one of the best media available so it's real shame that ProDisc didn't stick with it.
When buying Ritek be sure to get branded Ritek such as RiDATA so you'll be assured of quality. Some of the unbranded G04 are substandard :)
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rayboy
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21. October 2004 @ 10:44 |
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> I got some 8X prodisc, they burn only at 1X on my Toshiba SD-R5112. My burner is a 4X burner, but for some reason it burns at 1X using decrypter. Anyone know why?
> The Media Code says, I think ProdiscF01. Not MCC. In the past it would say MCC, I would have no problems with MCC. But I am having problems with ProdiscF01.
I saw MCC code in -R 4X only, not on -R 8X.
I have the same Prodisc blank -R 8X as you have, code ProdiscF01, I burned with Pioneer-DVR-108 and Drecrypter, I have NO problems, I like this type of blank alot a lot
Humm does the burner make any different ????
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Ifoman
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21. October 2004 @ 14:05 |
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I had a similar occurance when using the prodisc R03 white top printable hub with a 8x write,although I burnt @2.4x because the van_helsing movie has rapid movement and tons of special effects.I experienced freezing 1:35mins into the movie. I tried again using my Ritek Ridata silver matte ricoh code. these are 4x recomended,but again I wrote @2.4x and I had no problems.
Both media types are dvd+r and purchased from www.blankmedia.ca I'm using shrink to encode and decrypter to burn as an Iso image.My burner is a Lite-on sohw-802s. Here are the media logs from dvd info pro...
Media Information
Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID RICOHJPNR01
Media Product Revision Number 02h
Format Capacity Blank Disc
Free Blocks 405405696
Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.70GB)
Book Type DVD+R
Media Type DVD+R
Manufacturer Rated Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.4x 3324KBps
Linear Density Blank Disc
Track Density Unknown
Number of Layers 1
Complete Media Code
00000000 01 02 00 00 A1 0F 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 05 3F .............&.?
00000010 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 52 49 43 4F 48 4A 50 4E 52 .......RICOHJPNR
00000020 30 31 02 38 23 54 37 09 00 3C 67 00 AC 62 16 18 01.8#T7..<g..b..
00000030 0B 0B 0A 0B 01 19 1B 0B 0B 0E 0F 01 00 00 00 00 ................
and the ritek's...
Media Information
Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID RICOHJPNR01
Media Product Revision Number 02h
Format Capacity Blank Disc
Free Blocks 405405696
Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.70GB)
Book Type DVD+R
Media Type DVD+R
Manufacturer Rated Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.4x 3324KBps
Linear Density Blank Disc
Track Density Unknown
Number of Layers 1
Complete Media Code
00000000 01 02 00 00 A1 0F 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 05 3F .............&.?
00000010 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 52 49 43 4F 48 4A 50 4E 52 .......RICOHJPNR
00000020 30 31 02 38 23 54 37 09 00 3C 67 00 AC 62 16 18 01.8#T7..<g..b..
00000030 0B 0B 0A 0B 01 19 1B 0B 0B 0E 0F 01 00 00 00 00 ................
I will try a few more and if I generate more coasters I will return them,as the customer service is excellent!
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Ifoman
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21. October 2004 @ 14:11 |
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Oops..I posted the ritek logs twice.Here is the prodisc log...
Media Information
Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID PRODISC R03
Media Product Revision Number 03h
Format Capacity Blank Disc
Free Blocks 405405696
Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.70GB)
Book Type DVD+R
Media Type DVD+R
Manufacturer Rated Speed 8.0x 11080KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 8.0x 11080KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 6.0x 8310KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.4x 3324KBps
Linear Density Blank Disc
Track Density Unknown
Number of Layers 1
Complete Media Code
00000000 01 02 00 00 A1 0F 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 05 3F .............&.?
00000010 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 50 52 4F 44 49 53 43 00 52 .......PRODISC.R
00000020 30 33 03 38 23 54 37 0F 02 54 6B 02 94 63 15 15 03.8#T7..Tk..c..
00000030 0B 0A 08 08 01 1C 1E 0B 0C 12 12 01 00 00 00 00 ................
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RicTheRed
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22. October 2004 @ 05:09 |
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ifoman,
Movie content has no impact on freezing. Really.
I've purchased the same disks (R03) at the same location (blankmedia.ca) and experienced problems in all player except one. I'm telling the truth: one player literally ate the god dawn R03 - it never came out, I had to unscrew the dvd player case in order to remove it.
I've burned them with two different burners and results were poor. I also tried at 4x without great success. F them... They left a bad taste in my mouth that I do not even want to try the -R from Prodisc.
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rayboy
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22. October 2004 @ 14:45 |
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OK, some of you have problem with with prodisc 8X code R03. I just got some Prodisc DVD +R 8X
Here what I have on my Prodisc +R 8X(from Decrypter).
HP DVD Writer 400c FH04 (ATA) <=== Burner HP 400C
Current Profile: DVD+R
Disc Information:
Status: Empty
Erasable: No
Free Sectors: 2,295,104
Free Space: 4,700,372,992 bytes
Free Time: 510:03:29 (MM:SS:FF)
Supported Write Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 8x <=== DVD Speed
Physical Format Information (ADIP):
Disc ID: PRODISC-R03-03 <======== DVD code
Book Type: DVD+R <======== +/- R
Part Version: 1
Disc Size: 120mm
Pay attention on the ifoman post above , his DVD code is R03 not R03-03
I wonder if your code is R03 or R03-03 ?????
So I can buy more or run away from it.
Thanks You.
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RicTheRed
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25. October 2004 @ 05:53 |
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rayboy,
I was offline for the weekend. I will check the code (R03 vs R03-03)tonight and let you know.
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64026402
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31. October 2004 @ 07:39 |
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The Toshiba 5112 is very picky on media. It will revert to 1x on any media it doesn't have a precise code for. It only supported a handfull of DVDs at 4x including some of the older Prodisc codes.
You may be able to get some additional support by flashing.
I have had 0 problems with 4x or 8x media from prodisc. The MCC 8x that Prodisc has right now does require updated firmware from a lot of drives though.
The earlier 8x drives need to be updated as well as the 4x.
Donald
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tinman48
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1. November 2004 @ 23:48 |
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I have a BenQ DW1620 and am using DVD+R Prodisc R03 ink jet hub printable that I purchased from Blankmedia.ca. I use DVDDecrypter to rip, DVDShrink to shrink and remove menus to an ISO image, then I burn the ISO using DVDDecrypter. I have burned approximately 200 @12x without any problems until I installed Nero 6.6. After that I got some freezing in the last 10 minutes. I removed Nero and reinstalled DVDShrink and have not had problems since. Oh yes I change the Book Type to DVD-ROM and they even play in my ancient DVD player that does not play writeables.
Ottawa, CANADA
BenQ DW1620 and DW1640 and DW1650
TAIYO YUDEN000T02 DVD+R Media bookset to DVD-ROM
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geeman999
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8. November 2004 @ 01:36 |
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I've just started using prodisc 8x fo1's with dvd decrypter 3.5.1.0, dvd shrink 3.2.0.14 , and nero software(6.6.0.1). I use a nec 16x burner(dvd rw 3500AG). Right now I'm 4/4 and I'm burning at 8x.
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geeman999
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8. November 2004 @ 01:40 |
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by the by prodisc FO1's are clearly manufactured by prodisc, not mcc according to dvd identifier.
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geeman999
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8. November 2004 @ 01:47 |
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I also think that when people report problems with their media they also need to report what software their using, and their burner type, since otherwise reports of failures are meaningless as they may have nothing to do with the media, but with failures of the software or firmware.
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montrolla
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12. November 2004 @ 04:18 |
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i have a pioneer dvr-108 firmware 1.10
i've been using prodisc 8x -r and i thought i've been burning at this speed (8x) until i installed Nero 6 and showed me 4x. after the Nero installation everytime i backup with dvd x copy platinum, Nero is not able to completely make an image of the copied dvd-r to the hard drive. it always fail at the end.
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geeman999
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13. November 2004 @ 01:44 |
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Look's like to me it is a firmware problem. My nec 3500 ag with fw vers. 2.16/2.18 works fine now 10/10 with the prodisc F01. I like 'em. I wood suggest upgrading firmware if that is possible. I know there is alot of firmware that is incompatible with various manufacturers especially at higher speeds and with dl discs. I think prodiscs are among the better manufacturers from what I read. For the pioneer dvr-108 try upgrading to fw ver. 1.14.
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