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Blockbuster New Security Measures
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acycler
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23. November 2004 @ 01:06 |
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Hello.
A little birdie told me that Blockbuster is now covering its DVD's with a disc-shield product. (AVS Security) He mentioned that they have also incorporated two thin metal bands under the shield. Some sort of additional security measure.
Shame on him but he was telling me that attempts to process such DVD's with Xcopy, Shrink, or Decrypter failed.Apparently some sort of error message about duplicat I/O system failed or something.
Has anyone heard something similar?
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23. November 2004 @ 01:34 |
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I'm not sure who your little birdie is? AVS stands for Address Verification Service i don't think that has any thing to do with DVD's. it also makes no sense what so ever for Blockbuster to invest in something like this. Why would they? Please give me one good reason. For all the people out there that do rent from Blockbuster and then illegally copy their DVD's shame on you. I would tend to believe the opposite is true. Because how much buisness would they loose if they did do this? Blockbuster is not the one hurting from people copying there movies in fact I tend to believe it is the complete opposite. Now if someone from Paramount, Sony, or one of the movie manufactures were to do this I would then understand.... I don't know for sure you could be right if one of those Movie industries owns Block Buster, but I dont think they do last I knew Viacom owned Blockbuster.
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acycler
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23. November 2004 @ 04:11 |
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These DVD's had the Disc-shield product covering both sides of the DVD's. Property of Blockbuster Video was stamped into the shield. As was AVS Security.
Not certain if the local outlet has reworked all of their DVD's.The last two I saw however were this way.
Interesting in knowing if anyone else has encountered this problem and devised a way around it. Not that this would be in any way the smart, legal or ethical thing to do.
Just curious of course.
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BlackHood
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23. November 2004 @ 05:26 |
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If you can play the dvd in a dvd player you can copy it.. no way you cant copy the movie..
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acycler
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23. November 2004 @ 08:55 |
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If the problem is not with the disc_shield then it is with the security strip under it.
Either way there is a problem copying these discs. See the attached link for a look at at the disc_shield with the security strip.
http://www.audiovideosupply.com/discshield.htm
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ntranger
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23. November 2004 @ 09:07 |
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Well, the link that you posted doesn't state anything about "copy protection". Its a product to prevent scratching, not copying. Also, Blackhood is right, if you can read the DVD in your player, there is nothing to stop you from ripping it at all. Its safe to say, your "little birdie" got some bad smack or something, unless of course, the idiots at the blockbuster he works for installed the shield upside down, then, of course, they will have a hell of a time ripping the dvd's........ they will have a hell of a time playing them in any dvd player as well.........
Nt
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23. November 2004 @ 09:08 |
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I came across 2 dvds like the one your describing and I have had no problems backing them up, so your birdie is lying.
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23. November 2004 @ 09:08 |
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@ acycler LMAO !! :-) :-0 sorry about that I just had to laugh
I use those covers on disks at work.. They are nothing more than a protective coating for the label side of your disc. There is no security built into these.. This is to funny I'm still LMAO my company uses these same exact covers from the same exact company I have even put a few on my DVD's. To tell the truth they are waste of money as you can go out and buy 200 labels for 30$ and accomplish the same thing. How could something that goes on the label side of the disk effect the burning of the disk, I would have to agree with Blackhood on this if you can read it then you can copy it until the movie companies come out with some new incryption, but then Im sure someone will develope something to crack that as well.
bbmayo
P.S. i think someone is pulling your chain
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 23. November 2004 @ 09:13
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acycler
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23. November 2004 @ 09:38 |
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I do appreciate all of the good feedback. I will let the bird know that the problem he is having must be something other than the disc shield.
This was the first time he had seen this product attached to a dvd. His failure to process the DVD may have been falsely attributed to this.
He mentioned that the underside of the DVD's he was working with had a gold color. (DVD-9?)Could he be having an equipment issue with his DVD burner? Apparently he had no problem watching the DVD.
Does woking with a DVD-9 present any special challenges for De-crypter, Nero or Shrink.
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ntranger
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23. November 2004 @ 09:52 |
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S2K
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23. November 2004 @ 14:37 |
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these shields come in two types. one "protect" the top of the disks from scratches. teh second includees an anti theft strip designed to trigger an doorway alarm ant to prevent shoplifting.
It has nothing whatsoever to with preventing copying, which it is impossible to prevent with disks made for consumer dvd players.
As far as dvd 9, that is what DVD Shrink IS made for. you don't need anything but dcss like decrypter, anydvd etc for dvd5. about 90% of blockbuster's pressed disks would be dvd9.
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23. November 2004 @ 21:04 |
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Quote:
http://www.audiovideosupply.com/discshield.htm
I can make those :) ... I take one of my dvd labels and with a black marker I put two thin stripes across it.
If you put one of those on the bottom of a dvd, the dvd won't be able to be read.
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kchev
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24. November 2004 @ 08:17 |
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lmao
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24. November 2004 @ 16:00 |
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LMFAO LMFAO :-)
Good one Flip :-)
I stuck seran rap over my whole disk and stuck in it my burner and presto copy protected :-). Of course the burner is now protected too :-) LMAO
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ntranger
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25. November 2004 @ 08:38 |
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lol, you guys crack me up, all at that poor bastards expense. ;)
Nt
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alex112
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7. December 2004 @ 12:44 |
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Sorry to bust ya'll bubbles. But the little birdie is right. I went to Blockbuster and rented three new releases: Jim Carey's "Eternal Sunshine", Matt Damon's "Bourne Supremacy", and Vin Diesel's "Chronicles of Riddick". Riddick was a success, however both Eternal and Bourne would not copy. For both movies, after 1 or 2% of encoding, DVD Shrink either completely dissapeared OR this error came up: programming error--exception occurred--handle invalid.[/old] I even tried ripping BOTH DVDs to my harddrive with DVD Decrypter, and THEN have DVD Shrink "shrink" them, and the same errors came up. Can somebody please help me find a way beyond this???
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7. December 2004 @ 12:52 |
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I did them same movies ripping the files with DVD Decrypter and then I used Shrink with no problems. If you can read it you can burn it :-)
 
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7. December 2004 @ 12:53 |
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Also try playing them in your DVD player software for 30 sec or so this sometimes helps
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7. December 2004 @ 12:54 |
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So did your disk's have seran wrap over the movie side ;-) LOL
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alex112
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7. December 2004 @ 14:53 |
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Did your movies have the Blockbuster AVS Security shield on them?
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7. December 2004 @ 15:43 |
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bigdm
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7. December 2004 @ 18:49 |
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I was able to backup 2 of the new release DVDs you listed with no problem but none of the DVDs had this protective label. None of the movies I backed up were rented from the Blockbuster store. Could it be that the stores are the first to add the extra protection?
I am not sure how that label would prevent anyone from copying a DVD but what if they made some other changes to the disc that acycler and his friend are not aware of. It is possible that a company could come up with some kind of copy right potection to slow us down until better sotware is created to break the code.
If you rented DVDs at Blockbuster store or rented ONLINE with the special labels can you tell us whether or not you had problems backing up the DVDs.
Acycler, where do you live. They could be doing regional testing of the product.
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7. December 2004 @ 19:11 |
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Could be he is also on crack!! LOL
If you can play it can be copied the only way they could copy protect a disk is to come out with some new encryption process. Which by the way would cost into the Trillions to do, and for what? Some computer geek (ha ha that?s me) would just crack it again anyway. Also I don't think the public would all go out and buy new DVD players either just so they can play the new encryption. There is one way Block Buster could protect them, they could stick that security label on the side you read the data/movie from of course you wouldn?t be able to watch it either not to mention you would probably destroy your DVD player (that would definitely work) LOL
Why in there right mind would they (Blockbuster) do this anyway? They would have to be stupid! Everyone would just get there movies from NetFlix, Hollywood Video, or Mom & Pop's video store on the corner. This if it where true which I highly doubt would run themselves right out of business. I really don't think Blockbuster gives a damned if you copy there movies. That?s probably where they make all there money from anyway. OK I talked on this subject long enough I'm done. Have fun with this people :-)
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newtod
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8. December 2004 @ 00:20 |
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I found that Blockbuster 'protect' their DVD's by scratching them to buggery making the disk just about able to play in a standalone DVD player but not in a DVDROM.
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8. December 2004 @ 17:33 |
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I found that Blockbuster 'protect' their DVD's by scratching them to buggery making the disk just about able to play in a standalone DVD player but not in a DVDROM.
Hahaha! Isn't that the truth!
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