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DVD Labels?
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robnikki
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13. December 2004 @ 05:58 |
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I recently started burning dvd's to back up my collection(i have kids that are starting to use them)and I think sometimes the label causes sluggish play. Is this possible or is it in the recording? I can play movie and it will play o.k. one time but the next it will be sluggish in some parts. If I shut the dvd player off for a while it starts playing fine again. If this is the case I am going to stop making labels. Any help would be great. Also does anyone know a great program for making home DVD's? I want to convert my digital pics and home movies into slideshows on dvd. Thanks for the help
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kchev
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13. December 2004 @ 06:05 |
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dvd labeling is not recommended because it can cause alot of problems such as what you are experiencing
I don't think it has been proven a fact yet, but ALOT of people that have problems have labeled discs so it gets narrowed down to that
printable discs are what is recommended if you still want something on the disc
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tomripley
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13. December 2004 @ 06:34 |
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The symptoms you describe could also be caused by other things, such as the quality of the media you're using. That said, labels does sound like the most likely cause.
Basically the problems with labels is that they can cause balancing problems, ie. that the disc will wobble in the player (because the label makes one side heavier than the other).
You can, as kchev mention, get quite nice-looking results by using printable discs. Personally I just use a marker to write directly on the disc (I don't do moviebackups, though).
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kchev
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13. December 2004 @ 06:43 |
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yep, a Sharpie is all I use to write on mine also
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robnikki
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15. December 2004 @ 07:24 |
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Thanks for all the info. I'll know better form now on. I was thinking of getting a printer that prints directly onto the dvd. Any suggestions?
Thanks again
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15. December 2004 @ 12:08 |
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robnikki,
Although it is not recommended here, I put labels on all my backups and then print on them with my Epson R200. I don't have any problems whatsoever but I use a label applicator and good, proven, quality media. I can't tell the backup from the original in most cases.
One way to determine if your problem is media or label, would be to watch the backup a few times without a label and if it plays ok put a label on it and watch it again.
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robnikki
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17. December 2004 @ 03:27 |
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I have seen the epson printers that print directly on the dvd. I was thinking about getting one. I wish they made one that was wireless. Thanks for the help.
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17. December 2004 @ 04:15 |
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I believe the Label issue has to do more with the DVD player you are playing them in. I have about 200 labeled DVD's and they work perfect in my DVD players, but when my buddy borrows a disk to watch he has problems when his DVD player gets hot. Whhen he uses the same movie, and same brand media without the label it plays perfect. I now use the Epson r200 and print directly on my disks and he can play those fine. So if you want your disks to be able to play in all different players I would say don't put the labels on them, and if you really like the cool pictures on the disk (like I do) then go ahead and get a printer to print on the disk, this method prduces better quality anyway.
Cheers :-)
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17. December 2004 @ 13:57 |
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Get rid of your labelling kit & remove labels off your dvds, one of the chaps here has said he got read errors with labels, since he stopped labelling the problem evaporated! A marker pen is quicker & cheaper!
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spaldo
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19. December 2004 @ 02:25 |
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i just started labelling dvd's today, put them in the player and they were terrible quality unwatchable. I peeled the stickers off and they worked fine again. Dont believe its a media or player thing. I think its the result of applying the label which throws the balance of the disc out. Back to using the felt tip pen. :(
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tomt7898
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19. December 2004 @ 17:29 |
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why bother with lables
just use a Sharpie pen
does the trick for me.. no muss no fuss
cheers
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19. December 2004 @ 18:00 |
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If you want to print directly on your backups, but you're having problems with the stick on labels, buy some good quality inkjet printable media eg: Taiyo Yuden's.
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tomtruty
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20. December 2004 @ 17:35 |
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Thanks for the info on removing labels. I just posted a thread on DVD playback freeze ups caused by labels and I also agree removing the label cures the problem.
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24. December 2004 @ 06:14 |
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robnikki
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24. December 2004 @ 13:35 |
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Hey thanks for the info. This looks like a better deal than the r320. Less money.
Thanks again
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daddyo
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26. December 2004 @ 16:29 |
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Id go for the R200 brilliant quality prints to disk,pretty cheap at the moment too, also i wouldnt use sticky labels as i tried that when i was new to all this and it screwed up most of my dvd collection :(
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gorec9897
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3. January 2005 @ 23:49 |
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One huge factor is the adhesive on the labels themselves; ever take a piece of tape and place it on the wall and then peel it off? If you have it peels off quickly with no damage to the wall. Now let?s take another piece of tape and place it on the same wall, only this time leave the tape on the wall for a few months then peel it off; usually after 2 months when you finally take off the piece of tape you peel off some of the wall paper with it causing damage.
Case in point, leaving a cd label on the dvd/cd for a period of time will bind itself to the disc and in turn degrade the layer the data is written to or make it more difficult for cheaper lasers to read properly.
I have found that even after years, if you have a good laser (console/stand alone) the disc with the label should still read the disc perfectly as if a label was not there. If you buy a quality DVD player or one of the better ps2 units you shouldn?t have a problem with labeling.
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babakt
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5. January 2005 @ 15:53 |
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Wow, I think I finally figured out what the heck has been going on with my burned DVDs!!! Thank god I found this thread.
But now I have a question about Sharpies. I've heard they can be bad for burned DVDs/CDs as well and that you should use special pens. Anybody know anything about this?
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bardie
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5. January 2005 @ 23:10 |
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I just buy the proper markers to write on my disc's, then at least you have peace of mind.
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sean5775
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5. January 2005 @ 23:33 |
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I used to label my discs, then I ran out of labels and have been using a sharpie ever since. I never had a problem with the labels, but the added expense and hassle is not worth it for me. I do however have to do something to tell my discs apart, which is the sharpie.
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Paladore
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5. January 2005 @ 23:52 |
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Yes, the lables are a bad idea, ive had to remove most of them from my dvds.
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kgturner
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12. January 2005 @ 13:08 |
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i used to label my dvds as well. i starting noticing a lot of slow play / pixelation / audio dropouts. i started searching around and learned that it was most likely the label causing this. naturally, i would learn this after labelling over 100 dvds. for those interested in removing the dvd lables, the most effective method i've found is a goo gone bath. i bought two big bottles of goo gone and poured them into a glass pyrex dish. i could fit about 20-25 discs in this bath. let them soak for a day or two and the labels peel right off super easy. some of the labels fall off of their own accord. then i just laid a bath towel on the kitchen table and placed the discs side by side, wiping the tops down.
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ronco55
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29. January 2005 @ 04:42 |
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This seems to be the same problem that I am experiencing as well, but it only happened with the full face lables (the ones that run to the spindle hole). A friend of mine has had no problems but he is only using the standard labels. Does this seem to match the problems you were seeing?
I just started to copy my DVD's and ran out the standards labels after the first 3, then I bought a pack of Full Face Labels and the problem are present with all 20 dvd with the new labels. All of these movies used to play fine on two different dvd players, one desktop & two laptop players. Now some of them don't even allow for me to browse with explorer, let alone play the DVD.
I will try the Goo Gone bath but in the meantime I started to peel off one of the labels and I can at least now browse the disk.
Thanks to all for posting your issues/results, it saved what sanity I still posess.
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yellows
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29. January 2005 @ 20:56 |
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Ok guys here is the problem with the labels. Do you guys notice when you first put the label on the disc, it works fine but after a few months/weeks its starts to stutter and freeze and pixelate? Well here is what is really happening. The adhesive on the label starts to harden after time. As it does, shrinks, creating pressure on the top of the disc. This causes the disc to warp. Add to this the heat inside the DVD player as it plays, which causes the disc to warp even more. That is why the disc always seem to go crazy near the end. There is more warpping at the edges.
Unbalancing of the disc is not the problem. You can test this yourself. Take the disc with the label on it and scrape off half of the label. Put it in your player nad it should player better than it did when the full label was on it (this is assuming the disc was pixelating and skipping before with the label on).
This issue has been discussed in great detail in the forums at www.dvdrhelp.com
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gorec9897
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29. January 2005 @ 21:01 |
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Quote:
Ok guys here is the problem with the labels. Do you guys notice when you first put the label on the disc, it works fine but after a few months/weeks its starts to stutter and freeze and pixelate
read my last post friend ;)
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