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supertony
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2. January 2005 @ 21:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hello,
I cannot capture video from my cam to pc. But for some reason I can send a video from my pc to my cam. I have a JVC gr-d90u and a belkin firewire pci card.
I've used 2 separate apps to try to capture. Everything was properly installed and pluged in. Camcorder in play.
First was Ulead Video Studio5 (came on a disc). It gave me an error after I tried to start to capture. I got pissed off and took it off. But the error stated "no common media between these pins".
Next I tried Windows Movie Maker. I tried every video setting and capture method!
In capture entire tape... The comp makes the cam rewind and play, but not capture anything and errors after the proc is done. Preview screen is black the whole time.
In manual mode.. Same thing really.. I can control my camera play, pause, etc. but the preview screen is black and sound and video from the camera are working properly. Video captured and Size of Video stay at 0 the entire time. Errors are after...
"The specified video device are not responding. Verify that the device is connected properly and turned on, and then try capturing again."
(Everything is on and connected correctly!)

"C:\Documents and Settings\T\My Documents\My Videos\Untitled_0001.avi could not be imported. The selected file is not valid or is corrupted."
(The file it made is only 64kb.)

PLEASE HELP!
and thank you in advance

tony
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Leontari
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22. February 2005 @ 11:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
did you get any solution ? I am facing the same problem with my camcorder and I am really frustrated!

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supertony
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22. February 2005 @ 18:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hehe. nope. I haven't given up but hell, I have no clue on what is the problem or how to fix it.
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22. February 2005 @ 21:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
There must be something wrong with your Firewire card, your cable or your camera. The only way to find out is by "ticking off" what is not the problem.
Take your camera to another PC with with another Firewire cable and see if you can capture from your camera on that PC (you may find a computer shop that is willing to help you).
If that works you know your Camera is OK and you will have to suspect that either your cable or your firewire card has a defect.
Leontari
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23. February 2005 @ 02:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
well, i tried a different firewire cable and the problem wasn't solved so now the problem I think lies with the firewire card. With my previous computer the thing worked just fine. I don't thing there's a problem with a card. Something is different in this computer than my previous one. Maybe it has something to do with the BIOS ? Something is not enabled ??

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23. February 2005 @ 11:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I don't think so.
If I understand well your camera is recognized and you actually have device control over your camera?
If this is the case, your system is OK and there must be something wrong with either your card, your cable or your camera....
You ruled out the cable, so now it's got to be the camera or the card...
All I can say is test the camera on another PC. If that works, replace your Firewire card.
supertony
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23. February 2005 @ 14:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It can't be my cables either.(I have two of them) And when I connect my camcoder to my pc it does recognize it. So I'm guessing it might be my camera. I'll just have it check it out later. But why! why the hell am I capable of sending videos from my computer to my DV tapes and not the other way back around?
Hexxus
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24. February 2005 @ 03:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have fixed this problem by uninstalling and reinstalling WindowsXP Service Pack 2. Only to have it reoccur again after downloading and installing new drivers for my ATI 9550 video card. So it seems there must be a driver or file being overwritten by the ATI drivers in my case. This is very annoying, Ive been to countless forums and have not found a permament solution, nor have I found anything on the subject either from Microsoft or ATI.
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24. February 2005 @ 22:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
This is very peculiar.
Transfer over Firewire is a direct transfer and I don't see how video drivers can have anything to do with it. Anyway, if it is true from your won experience I would raise the issue with the ATI boys...
Hexxus
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25. February 2005 @ 04:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Its not so much a transfer problem as it is a display problem inside either Pinnacle Studio 8 (or 9 demo version) and Windows Movie Maker's own preview display window. Although I can capture video using the camera selection from "My Computer" when it is connected to my computer via firewire and I can capture still photos from it as well. The camera is a Jvc GR33Du just for the record. So that indicates to me its not a transfer problem, in my case anyway.
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25. February 2005 @ 04:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
OK, so your problem is completely different from wht thi sthread is about. Supertony says he cannot capture at all and he ends up with file being 64k...
wjauch
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27. February 2005 @ 12:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have the same problem, Video preview screen remains black (using windows movie maker, Nero and ULead), and an attempt at capture results in file error messages. The camcorder, cable and Firewire card are OK, I put the card into an older computer and there capture works fine. Both PCs are running XP with SR2. Downloading latest Direct X 9c didn't help. I assume its some software difference between the computers, but what? Could the actual PCI bus be faulty and how does one check? Any help would be appreciated.
Hexxus
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28. February 2005 @ 03:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
In my particular case I know the pci bus is not faulty as I was able to correct the problem by uninstalling Service pack 2 and reinstalling it. It was only after reinstalling the ATI drivers for my video card that the problem occurred again.
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28. February 2005 @ 15:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That sounds like a very tough problem...
You'd better check the driverheaven.net forum.
There are a couple of posts with ATI card and Firewire problems..
http://www.driverheaven.net/archive/index.php/t-23514.html
http://www.driverheaven.net/archive/index.php/t-1011.html
Leontari
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1. March 2005 @ 15:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
please, someone! Find a solution! I have tried everything ... I don't know what to do ... I installed the latest Catalyst version, the latest VIA 4 in 1 drivers, nothing ... I even removed my graphic display drivers but nothing .. my last try would be to uninstall service pack 2 and see if then capturing works, but I doubt it ... someone HELP!

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jagger123
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6. March 2005 @ 02:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Following the failuure of ULEAD, Pinnacle Plus and AMCAP to capture DV video from my Belkin firewire connection, I have just downloaded Scenalyzer beta DV capture program (0.95Mb) from /www.scenalyzer.com. Takes about 30 seconds to install and captured first time with no dropped frames. Pinnacle and AMCAP and Video Studio are still failing to capture from my Belkin firewire connection - therefore it would appear to be a specific software related problem rather than a hardware or driver problem.
I have contacted Pinnacle to let them know after being sent on a wild goose chase updating every piece of hardware and related software and OS I have on my system. Awaiting their response.
Leontari
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6. March 2005 @ 07:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, I used Scenalyzer beta DV but again it didn't work. I got this message: "ScLive has not received any video from the driver. Close any other program that uses this capturing-device, or disconnect and reconnect the firewire-connection."

I checked for other programs and nothing seems to use my DV cam and I disconnected/connected my firewire cable but again nothing.

This is getting to be really annoying ... :o(

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jagger123
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6. March 2005 @ 10:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Leontari
If you have your camcorder turned off and then in any of the video capture programs (inc scenalyzer) choose a capture source you should first find that the source is not listed. As soon as you enable the power to the camcorder it should be recognised immediately as a source - if it is not suggest that there is a physical connection problem. If the source becomes listed obviously choose it and go from there. My problem has been that I can preview and control the camera functions but I have been unable to capture.
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6. March 2005 @ 11:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Jagger,
If you were abel to capture with Scenalyzer and not with one of the other programs, I bet it is aproblem with the timecode on your tape. Scenalyzer is very good at cirumvening that problem.
Leontari has a serious other problem, which is very very peculiar... I doubt if there is anybody over here who can help you.. :-(
(Gosh, I hate to say that...)
jagger123
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7. March 2005 @ 07:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
TPFKAS
since your reply I have put a previously successful captured DV tape (with Pinnacle Studio 9) into Pinnacle Studio 9 Plus and AMCAP but this video stream also failed to be captured - therefore I cannot see the RTC on the tape to be the problem, as you suggested, have you any other ideas please ?
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7. March 2005 @ 12:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I am not sure if I understand what you wrote...
Can you restate it? This will help me getting you in the right direction (if I am able to).
supertony
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7. March 2005 @ 21:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
...anyone have a clue on what my problem could be?
...please? hehe
jagger123
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7. March 2005 @ 22:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
TPFKAS
Quick background stuff

I can preview my DV video stream in AMCAP and ULEAD and control the camera through a firewire connection to Belkin PCI firewire card but the software cannot achieve even a first frame render. Ulead has the same fault but Scenalyzer works OK - I have upgraded to Studio 9 plus for its enhanced features therefore i am annoyed that their upgrade does not work whereas their previous version did and Scenalyzer a cheap alternative capture worked OK albeit I will have to pay to register to remove their icons.

Your reply suggested that the timecode on the tape could be a source of error, but I put in a tape that had previously been successfully captured using Studio 9 and this also failed to be captured by all but Scenalyzer.
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7. March 2005 @ 23:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Jagger,
So if I undertsnd well you have a tape that Studio 9 was able to capture, but Studio 9 Plus cannot? I don't think their capture routine will be any different in both versions, but you could ask them.
Try this freeware program DVIO to test: http://www.carr-engineering.com/dvio.htm.
Supertony, maybe also for you to try.
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jagger123
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8. March 2005 @ 07:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
TPFKAS
Cheers !!! DVIO worked straight off no problem - so why do the commercial video editing programs on which I have spent good money not work on one of their most fundamental operations i.e video capture ?

Just to let you know that Pinnacle support's exact answer was as follows :-
"Studio software is design to work with Pinnacle Capture hardware. It might be work with your IEEE card or it might not be work. We do not guarantee."
 
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