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Backup PC game with Alcohol 120%
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jeesh
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10. January 2005 @ 21:16 |
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Could someone tell me what datatype you select in Alcohol 120% to backup PC games. I'm trying to backup Need For Speed Underground 2 and having no luck. I tried using Nero and it just gave me a bunch of errors. So I'm trying with Alcohol 120% now but unsure about the datatype to select. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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pollushon
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10. January 2005 @ 22:25 |
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Before you start with any PC game backup, you need to know the protection used. Aray disc scanner will tell you: http://www.aray-software.com/index.php?showtopic=23&st=0&#entry51 Then you select the corresponding datatype to image and burn. With safedisc protections it is normal to get read errors while the image is dumping. With later versions of safedisc version 3 and higher, it is extremely hardware dependant. You'll always be able to make an image that works via a virtual drive, but getting it back to disc successfully is a different story.
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jeesh
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11. January 2005 @ 00:38 |
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I ran A-Ray Scanner and it indicated that it was a SafeDisc 2/3. So then in Alcohol I started the Image Making Wizard and selected SafeDisc 2/3 as the datatype. I let it sit there for 40 minutes and it had only completed 1%. It just kept coming up with disc read error at 1228, 1243, etc. Does anyone know why this is happening?
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pollushon
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11. January 2005 @ 00:47 |
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I hate to quote myself:Quote:
With safedisc protections it is normal to get read errors while the image is dumping.
Let it continue, depending on your drive it can take some time. They begin anywhere from the 400-900 mark and end around the 10,500 mark. Unfortunately the fastdump feature of Alcohol doesnt work with the safedisc version NFSU 2 uses.
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jeesh
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11. January 2005 @ 01:34 |
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I created the Image with the original disc in my DVD burner. It got threw it a lot quicker than my normal DVD rom, though when it finished the image was bigger than the used space on the originial disc. The used space on the original disk is 667 MB though the image I created is 766.76 MB which is obviously to big to fit on a 700 MB CD-R. Do you know why this has happened? Also would it be doing damage to the laser in my DVD burner using it to read the original to create the image?
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pollushon
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11. January 2005 @ 12:58 |
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No it wont damage your laser. The reason the image is now bigger than the actual size is because Alcohol needs to create extra data to be able to burn it back to disc correctly. The game is still 667Mb the extra 100Mb is Alcohols instructions on how to correctly encode the copy protection data. If you select image burning wizard now it will burn the 766Mb back to CD-R as 667Mb just fine.
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SemiGodd
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18. January 2005 @ 14:46 |
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So i used aray scanner for a pc game as well, and it detected no protection...so what data type is that...?
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18. January 2005 @ 15:30 |
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I always use clonyxxl (even works on mounted images)
Then i would just burn using whatever protection it detected.
The games run like the originals no need for
cracks ect...
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SemiGodd
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18. January 2005 @ 21:31 |
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but it didn't detect any protection....so what data type is that??? on alcohol 120%
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pollushon
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18. January 2005 @ 22:01 |
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I always use clonyxxl (even works on mounted images)
Then i would just burn using whatever protection it detected.
Clony is dead. Clony xxl hasnt been updated since mid 2003 and is useless as far as new protections like safedisc v3/4+ and securom 5/7+ as well as sysiphus.
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So i used aray scanner for a pc game as well, and it detected no protection...so what data type is that...?
If you have installed the game and scanned the directory and still found nothing, then just use 'normal CD' datatype.
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18. January 2005 @ 22:38 |
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Semigodd if theres no protection on the game your backing up just burn direct to disc using burning software like Nero.
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SemiGodd
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18. January 2005 @ 22:55 |
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so i managed to burn the images on to 3 cds...and i installed the game perfectly fine...
when i run the game it tells me to insert cd 3 but when i do it still keeps asking me to insert cd 3....what am i supposed to do?
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SemiGodd
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19. January 2005 @ 08:10 |
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man this thing is really begining to irritate me...everytime i get close somthing else happens...grrrr.....
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marilyn6
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19. January 2005 @ 08:13 |
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i havent been successful at backing up pc games, i wasnt sure you really could with games these days from all of the protection and copyright software. i will try this out guys, thanks for the help.
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SemiGodd
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19. January 2005 @ 08:52 |
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i'm thinking the problem arrises from the fact that the origional cd is 1 disk, where as my back up has to be spread throughout three disks...
anyone have any ideas?
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SemiGodd
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19. January 2005 @ 19:18 |
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so i mounted the files on a virtual drive, and it still asks me to insert the cd... any ideas, suggestions, links?
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jeesh
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21. January 2005 @ 21:57 |
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SemiGodd, I'm assuming the game you are trying to back up is originally on DVD cause you have put it on three CD-R's. Do you not have a DVD burner or something? Cause wouldn't you just make a copy of the original?
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SemiGodd
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21. January 2005 @ 23:15 |
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i dont know what it was origionaly on.... i belive if was on three cd-r's origionaly...i didn't know that before....
any who...i burned it on three cd-rs i couldn't burn it on one dvd....
it keeps askinbg me to insert disk three...when i do...it continues to ask me to insert disk three...
i write this post after many...many drinks of liquer....so pardon me for any oddities or inconsistajies or whatever general wierdness y9u encounter
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Nemis
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5. February 2005 @ 11:54 |
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I'm trying to backup The Incredibles, I have used Aray and ClonyXXL with Alcohol 120%; disk protection shows up as Securom 4.8. I have selected Securom "New" (4.x/5.x) froim the Alcohol list, unfortunately the back up copies do not work. Suggestion or ideas on what I'm missing?
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pollushon
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5. February 2005 @ 12:24 |
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@nemis, the most important things: do a DPM reading at 1x, make sure 'burn RMPS to recordable media' is checked before burning, always read and write as slowly as possible. Before you play the game go to emulations, and extra emulations, check: 'RMPS' 'Sub-Channel Data and Fixed Emulation' and 'Ignore Media Type'. Then run the game.
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travalon
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10. February 2005 @ 23:12 |
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I am trying to create an image of Theif Deadly shadows I can mount and play. The protection is
securerom 5.03.04.0034 according to A-Ray. I have tried Games X Copy (which was doing well untill now)and a Alcohol 120 (set to securerom 4.x 5.x) a couple of times. I can use the images to load the game but every time I try to play I get a message "conflict with disc emulator software detected". I thought I was making a 1:1 copy without any emulation but now, I'm not too sure. I have searched the forums but was un-able to find a solution. I appreciate any help any one could offer. After writing this I decided to try burning the image to disc. Once done, before even booting the game, the drive I loaded it into says "Emulation needed". Up-on booting, I get an error message "could not find T3.exe". So now what do I do? Thanks. Ok, 15 hrs. later, 1 sunrise and 2 pots of coffee, and all I came up with is a new question. Why do I only get the default image file ".mds" option in alcohol?
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11. February 2005 @ 08:47 |
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BlindWrite5/BW5Tweaker are just the ticket for SecuROM so you may want to give them a shot. Here's a thread that'll give you the skinny on the settings:
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/157664
Go ahead and post back to this thread if you need more help :)
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11. February 2005 @ 08:47 |
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What make/model drive are you using?
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travalon
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11. February 2005 @ 09:17 |
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Nephilim, thank you for your response. I am using a lite-on 1633s dual layer burner, and just recently got a hold of a bwabuilder as well as a bwa editor.
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travalon
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11. February 2005 @ 10:13 |
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Hey, I now have a new Verbatim coaster. It took longer to read but still asked me to "insert the original disc not a back up". I saved the image file. Do I need to run the bwa builder now? Was fun though.
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