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4wheel
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19. January 2005 @ 14:13 |
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Is there a way you can get caught by copying a movie or game from a rental store??? I know u guys play with some of the other people that asked this question but please help me...
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19. January 2005 @ 14:22 |
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No.
Unless you did it on February 31st.
You have been warned.
Oh by the way.
The intention of this forum is to discuss about Sony Playstation 2, backupping DVD based PS2 games, etc. As usual, no piracy allowed.
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dfaulting
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19. January 2005 @ 16:46 |
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I dont think you'll get caught, but some of them CDs have sensors which can read dvd burners copying it. Then you're in big trouble.
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jay33
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19. January 2005 @ 17:12 |
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lol
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rayza184
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19. January 2005 @ 17:46 |
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ALso if you try and play online it will send a signal to the fbi that you are playing an unregistered copy (no authorization) of a game. This may lead to an investigation and possible fines or imprisonment. You are warned!!!
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batman125
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19. January 2005 @ 18:13 |
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This was actually discussed in a recent bill proposed to cut down on movie-store-game-rental piracy. They proposed having a small, undetectable firmware addition installed on consoles when they connect for online play. I heard that it passed and is operational from Jan. 1, 2005.
So, I'd watch myself if I were you.
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danbooke
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19. January 2005 @ 18:16 |
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Uhm, I don't know why everone has to be such sarcastic @$$holes here. The purpose of this IS backing up PS2 games, and he has a valid question about backing up PS2 games. Nobody said anything about piracy, and if this forum is for helping others, then you guys have failed miserably. Anyway, no, stores like Blockbuster cannot tell if you have coppied their games. As a matter of fact I have a game pass there that let's me check out 2 games at a time and bring them back and check out two more as many times as I want in 30 days. And it only costs $30. And guess what? I copied every single one. Oh and guess what again? I don't own the originals!! Oh my god! Call the FBI. Piracy is bullcrap. Nobody really gives a damn as long as you haven't built a multi million dollar company off of someone else's copyright. So many people are confused about copyright laws anyway it's pathetic. You can copy any damn thing you wanna copy with no repercussions, as long as I said before, that you are not trying to make money off of someone elses hard work. You start selling these backups, then you're gonna get in trouble. The "you can only copy it if you own the original" line is a myth. If that were the case, why would the government allow me to buy something as simple as a VCR - cause guess what? I can record any show off of T.V. like American Idol, but I don't own the rights to it. Oh no, I see an NSA truck outside my house now! Please. You know what? I paid $30 for my game pass, have burned about 200 games that I do not own the originals for. So in essence all the programmers and people involved that make video games (who are so poor by the way, boo hoo, yeah right) got 30 bucks for the 200 games I bought. So while everyone else is out paying $10,000 dollars to buy the same amount of games I paid 30 bucks for, I'll be enjoying my extra $9,970 doing something useful, like getting an education.
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phuc
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19. January 2005 @ 19:07 |
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hey 4wheel i ask the same thing and it ok to do it it your free dom dont let it control by other. Just do it
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19. January 2005 @ 19:17 |
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Danbooke
Did you at least pay for Nero?
LMAO---
You have a point though.
But even i wouldnt have said all that.
And i did answer his question
I said No.
Possunt Quia Posse Videntur.
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19. January 2005 @ 19:28 |
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danbooke,
Very funny and true you said there. I love the game pass myself. At first I used it just to preview games so I wouldn't by a stinker, but after I spent $300 on games one month I decide to go a different route myself.
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danbooke
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19. January 2005 @ 19:43 |
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Jizmak, you are a funny dude sometimes! Actually I got Nero free with my DVD burner, so I guess in a way maybe!
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RemyK313
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19. January 2005 @ 23:03 |
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Yeah, I've always figured the "No talk of piracy" rule was just something that the forum operators put up to cover their asses legally. Backing up games usually only leads to piracy.
In fact, I can only think of ONE reason why anyone would make a legal copy of their own game : they don't wanna scratch up the disc. However, a disc taken care of can last for up to ten years, so it's not too likely that anyone would actually do this.
(I myself am actually in the process of taking some very old CDs and backing them up, as the old ones are starting to get scratched up and sometimes get jitter. I recommend EVERYONE do this every few years.)
So, all this "I'm technically, legally correct" stuff is bullshit.
With that said, 4wheel : No, there's no way that blockbuster or any other game rental place can know if you're copying the games/movies you rent.
I personally got a great deal at "Hollywood Video" where I paid them 30 dollars, and can rent an unlimited amount of movies for the next three months, three movies at a time.
As soon as my Swap Magic discs come in, and if I can get backups to work with it, I plan on getting a gamepass sort of deal at a local video store, and copying everything that I can.
Sure, there's a lot to be said about what I'm doing, however, I can't be the only person doing this.
And one more thing : Businesses have the right to refuse you business, and the contracts for most places state that they can revoke your membership for whatever reason they choose. So, if they think something is fishy, they'll simply stop renting to you.
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20. January 2005 @ 05:30 |
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xts3
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20. January 2005 @ 05:51 |
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Piracy acts as a balance to capitalism, look at all the frigging super rich people that exploit game developers and overwork them. In my opinion charging too much for a product and exploiting your workers is equal or worse to piracy, I have no sympathy for Executives at places like Electronic arts who don't understand a thing about games and just want successful game development studios to churn out clone of games without making any real improvements (i.e. Underground 2, etc). The only exception is Burnout 3 and a few others.
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20. January 2005 @ 08:41 |
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danbooke: Uhm, I don't know why everone has to be such sarcastic @$$holes here. The purpose of this IS backing up PS2 games, and he has a valid question about backing up PS2 games. Nobody said anything about piracy, and if this forum is for helping others, then you guys have failed miserably. Anyway, no, stores like Blockbuster cannot tell if you have coppied their games. As a matter of fact I have a game pass there that let's me check out 2 games at a time and bring them back and check out two more as many times as I want in 30 days. And it only costs $30. And guess what? I copied every single one. Oh and guess what again? I don't own the originals!! Oh my god! Call the FBI. Piracy is bullcrap. Nobody really gives a damn as long as you haven't built a multi million dollar company off of someone else's copyright. So many people are confused about copyright laws anyway it's pathetic. You can copy any damn thing you wanna copy with no repercussions, as long as I said before, that you are not trying to make money off of someone elses hard work. You start selling these backups, then you're gonna get in trouble. The "you can only copy it if you own the original" line is a myth. If that were the case, why would the government allow me to buy something as simple as a VCR - cause guess what? I can record any show off of T.V. like American Idol, but I don't own the rights to it. Oh no, I see an NSA truck outside my house now! Please. You know what? I paid $30 for my game pass, have burned about 200 games that I do not own the originals for. So in essence all the programmers and people involved that make video games (who are so poor by the way, boo hoo, yeah right) got 30 bucks for the 200 games I bought. So while everyone else is out paying $10,000 dollars to buy the same amount of games I paid 30 bucks for, I'll be enjoying my extra $9,970 doing something useful, like getting an education.
Wow you are real smart there guy...Don't you think that there are people that get paid to browse the net at popular sites to see what they can find? Now when some federal type of bureau subpoenas a website for all of their database they CAN find you and proceed to prosecute you. Not to mention they have you admitting to it by your own accord! Yes there is more to it than just that, but understand it is possible and you have only put yourself out there as a pirater. Not to mention you will be under watch here by us now that we know what you are about....
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fucknut
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20. January 2005 @ 09:51 |
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NEWSFLASH: THE MPAA HAS STARTED OUT IN A NEW VENTURE:
THE DVD POLICE.
THEY WILL TAIL YOU FROM A DVD RENTAL PLACE AND PEEK INSIDE YOUR LIVING AREA LIKE SOME PERVERTED SEXUAL PEEPER JUST TO BE SURE YOU ARE NOT INVOLVED IN ANY ILLEGAL ACTIVITY........
OH PLEASE .......................
YOUR CHANCES IN GETTING CAUGHT IS NEXT TO NONE.
IT'S ALMOST LIKE PROSTITUTION AND DRUG ABUSE.
THE VICTIMLESS CRIME CONCEPT.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS PRACTICALLY UNENFORCEABLE.
THE UNITED STATES IS ONE OF THE FEW CIVLILIZED COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD THAT CIRCUMVENTING THE CSS ENCODING ON A MOVIE DVD IS ILLEGAL.
ALL OF THIS JUST MEANS IS HOW CORRUPT PEOPLE ARE IN THE UNITED CONGRESS IN TAKING KICKBACKS AND BRIBES FROM THE MINDLESSLY CORRUPT MPAA AND RIAA OVER LEGITIMATE CONSUMER ISSUES LIKE FAIR USE RIGHTS ATTACHED TO LEGALLY BOUGHT AND OWNED DVD MOVIE DISCS.
IT'S JUST LIKE THE STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERMENT TO ENACT ASSININE LAWS LIKE THE DMCA AND EVEN SUPPORTING AND ENACTING LAWS THAT WOULD MAKE A DENT INTO EVEN MORE (THIS IS CONSTRUED TO BE THEFT UNDER MOST INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY LAWS IN THE UNITED STATES)ILLEGAL THINGS LIKE RENTAL DVD PIRATING IN WHICH THE MOST PART WOULD BE TOTALLY IMPRACTICAL AND UNENFORCEABLE.
NOBODY PAYS ATTENTION TO THIS AND MOST PEOPLE WILL DO WHAT THEY WANT ANY OLD WAY.
I DON'T FEEL SORRY FOR ANYBODY IN THE ELECTRONIC ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY HIDING BEHIND COPYRIGHT AND PATENT LAW IN THE UNITED STATES THAT IS HUNDRED YEARS BEHIND THE TIMES.
LOL!!
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fucknut
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20. January 2005 @ 09:52 |
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NEWSFLASH: THE MPAA HAS STARTED OUT IN A NEW VENTURE:
THE DVD POLICE.
THEY WILL TAIL YOU FROM A DVD RENTAL PLACE AND PEEK INSIDE OF YOUR LIVING AREA LIKE SOME PERVERTED SEXUAL PEEPER JUST TO BE SURE YOU ARE NOT INVOLVED IN ANY ILLEGAL ACTIVITY........
OH PLEASE .......................
YOUR CHANCES IN GETTING CAUGHT IS NEXT TO NONE.
IT'S ALMOST LIKE PROSTITUTION AND DRUG ABUSE.
THE VICTIMLESS CRIME CONCEPT.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS PRACTICALLY UNENFORCEABLE.
PLEASE DON'T MAKE ME LAUGH!!
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dfaulting
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20. January 2005 @ 11:11 |
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xts3:
Piracy acts as a balance to capitalism, look at all the frigging super rich people that exploit game developers and overwork them. In my opinion charging too much for a product and exploiting your workers is equal or worse to piracy, I have no sympathy for Executives at places like Electronic arts who don't understand a thing about games and just want successful game development studios to churn out clone of games without making any real improvements (i.e. Underground 2, etc). The only exception is Burnout 3 and a few others.
You sir, have no clue what you're talking about. Piracy wasn't meant to balance capitalism. It just came about because people are greedy. Also, what makes you think games are expensive? In reality, games should cost MORE. 10 years ago the price of games was about $50. Today, it's still $50. Inflation alone should have made it cost more but somehow it's always been around $50. I won't even go into how much production costs have gone up and the huge amount of people working on one project since 10 years ago.
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20. January 2005 @ 13:25 |
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Aren't DVDs cheaper to press than game carts were to make?
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danbooke
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20. January 2005 @ 16:22 |
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dfaulting "quote"
You sir, have no clue what you're talking about. Piracy wasn't meant to balance capitalism. It just came about because people are greedy. Also, what makes you think games are expensive? In reality, games should cost MORE. 10 years ago the price of games was about $50. Today, it's still $50. Inflation alone should have made it cost more but somehow it's always been around $50. I won't even go into how much production costs have gone up and the huge amount of people working on one project since 10 years ago.
You do have a point. Although when I bought Final Fantasy II for the SNES I paid $30 bucks for it new when it came out, so I don't know if that is entirely true. But I do get what you are saying. The only problem with that, is yeah productions costs have gone up and they do have huge amounts of people making these things - But guess what? No game ten years ago made $125 million dollars in one day like they do now. I still don't feel sorry for them or what they do. When EA's ceo starts driving a beat up honda civic and live in a sh!tty part of town like me,then I'll shed a tear.
Oner- I respect your opinion in this matter, and I do not doubt everything you say is true. But I have PAID for the games that I have rented. People need to read up on copyright laws. Like I said the owning the origanl thing is a myth. And if the federal government doesn't have better things to do like I don't know, finding a new planet to live on before we ruin the hell out of this one, than bust me for copying games I technically did pay for, then this is a very sad place to live.
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dlc2000
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20. January 2005 @ 17:08 |
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xts3
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20. January 2005 @ 19:10 |
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dfaulting said:
"You sir, have no clue what you're talking about. Piracy wasn't meant to balance capitalism. It just came about because people are greedy. Also, what makes you think games are expensive? In reality, games should cost MORE. 10 years ago the price of games was about $50. Today, it's still $50. Inflation alone should have made it cost more but somehow it's always been around $50. I won't even go into how much production costs have gone up and the huge amount of people working on one project since 10 years ago."
Man, get a clue, I said act as A balance to capitalism and if you don't think businesses are out to screw the consumer look at all the shovelware in the games industry even back from the NES days, 90% of the games released for any system are C-R-A-P. Thats why 10% of the games rake in 90% of all sales. Also Renting games hurts the game industry just as much as piracy because you can finish a game on a rental of 5-7$ instead of paying the $50 for the same single player game. So piracy only saves people that only rent games 7$ when you can legally experience an entire game for a rental fee.
Not to mention Both sony and Microsoft chose media and drives that could read burnable media, while the gamecube went with proprietary discs. Notice how GC piracy is way harder and basically not worth the effort for most people unless you are hardcore but modifying an Xbox or PS2 is damn easy because of the DVD format. These companies are just asking for people to exploit them when Companies like Sony SELL DVD burners that can burn discs that can be read by the PS2. A little contradictory don't you think?
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21. January 2005 @ 09:26 |
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dfaulting : some of them CDs have sensors which can read dvd burners copying it. Then you're in big trouble.
If These CD's which have sensors ACTUALLY DO EXIST. then obviously, they will only be able to detect that they have been READ by a computer (Which I Find Impossible as It reads the same way it does on a DVD Player) and this is NOT Illegal because some people decide to WATCH DVD's on their PC.
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4wheel
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21. January 2005 @ 09:52 |
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Jizmak
I did pay for Nero paid all 100$
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4wheel
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21. January 2005 @ 09:54 |
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danbooke
Thanks so much you are right and those other guys dont know what there talking bout.. I'll try that game pass..
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