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Cant burn fast anymore?
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seadale
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23. January 2005 @ 09:53 |
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hello i'm a newbie obviously. I have been using dvd x copy platinum to back-up my movies. it use to take me about 30min for the whole process, now its well over an hour. any idea why my computer is getting slower & slower. any help would be greatley appreciated! Tnx
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23. January 2005 @ 11:27 |
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Theres a few post out there with others having problems with slow burns.
Sugestions:
1 Search for them post in the search field
2 your drive fell into PIO mode and out of Ultra mode.
3 defrag your hard drive
there is some other reasons this could happen so for more info search for slow burn problems or slow backup problems you should get a few hits.
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seadale
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23. January 2005 @ 11:35 |
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how do i check my drive for pio & or ultra mode. excuse my ignorance. i've never used any other program other than dvd copy x platinum. everything else is new to me.
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brobear
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23. January 2005 @ 11:52 |
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Hopefully you're using windows XP. Go into Help and Support in the Start menu. Search DMA. You want to go into the Device Manager to check the settings. They can be checked in Nero's infotools if you have that program on your PC. Below are the steps involved.
Opening categories in the Device Manager can be acheived by double clicking the desired entry or expanding the category by selecting the plus box to the left. I say double click to expand or click when a single click makes the selection of a tab in a window. Here are the steps to check DMA in the Advanced tab.
Start
Control Panel
In Control Panel double click System
In System Properties window Click Hardware tab (if not already open)
Click Device Manager
In Device Manager Double Click IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers
Double Click Secondary IDE Channel
Click the Advanced Settings Tab in the Properties window.
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seadale
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23. January 2005 @ 12:04 |
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thanks was able to find using the search. my primary ide was still dma, but the secondary was in pio i changed to dma. hopefully this will cure my prob. the next time i back up a movie.
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brobear
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23. January 2005 @ 15:31 |
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The secondary channel is the one with the drives. PIO settings definitely slow things up. If the problem isn't cured, check to see if the setting went back to PIO. Sometimes the problem that causes it is temporary and disappears and sometimes it can be persistent.
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seadale
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23. January 2005 @ 17:27 |
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thanks bro, is there anything else that could slow down the process?
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brobear
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23. January 2005 @ 17:48 |
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Not doing the routine maintenance can slow things down. Adding programs that require RAM is another if those programs have a constant draw. Check with Task Manager.
Defragging the drive and doing the anti-virus scans helps keep things working properly; also, a weekly cleanup of spyware and adware. Ad-Aware SE, SpyBot (both free) and SpySweeper are the ones I use (SpySweeper has a free trial but needs subscription to stay current). Defragging and the weekly cleanup will keep the system running as well as possible. With the drive being in PIO, that was the cause of the slow speed, no doubt there.
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mdinap
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23. January 2005 @ 19:08 |
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Hey i am having the same problem that he is having. My times were at 15 miuntes for an entire DVD and now im back to about 50 minutes. I think i know what the problem is. When i was burning 15 minutes my CPU usage was at 15-28%. Now its at like a constant 100% sometimes dropping to like 82%. I know this has got to be affecting the burn because i have tryed everything else. Do you know of any reason or way i can get that CPU usage down during a burn. Cause when im not burning it is between 0-4%. Thanks!
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seadale
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23. January 2005 @ 19:18 |
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one thing i dont get is in the ide 2ndary, there is also a box in the middle. it doesn't have a dropdown so it cant be changed.it say current transfer mode "pio". whats that all about. i changed everything i could to dma. i backed up my 1st movie today using DVD Decrypter & DVD Shrink. It came out great, but is it normal to take 2hrs to do. my computer told me the drives didn't need to be defragged, i use adware once a week. freed up a bunch of space cleaning out old programs. i'll take a look @ the task manager & see if i can see anything. thanks again bro!
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seadale
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23. January 2005 @ 19:30 |
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mdinap, i just tested out your theory. my cpu was zero & when i started the back process it shot up to 100%. not sure what all that means or if it is normal. let me know what you find out.
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brobear
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23. January 2005 @ 19:43 |
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What is normal depends on the system, i.e. the CPU and its speed, RAM, Front Side Bus, hard drive, and the OS along with some possible software limitations. One has to take into account the size of the files being encoded. I can rip and burn a DVD5 in 30 minutes or less. But if I take a big movie near 8GB and encode that with RB/CCE, I'm looking at nearly 4 hours.
Making sure your system is still in DMA, try a trial program. DVDCopy3 is both fast and high quality. http://www.intervideo.com (pay attention to software requirements) Then let me know how long it took with that program. You need to rip the DVD with the latest version of DVD Decrypter (free). http://www.dvddecrypter.com I leave AnyDVD running in the background all the time. http://www.slysoft.com AnyDVD has a 3 week trial. Try that setup and let me know what happens.
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brobear
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23. January 2005 @ 19:46 |
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mdinap
Did you check your DMA settings. If you have the same problem, it may have the same cause. Not always guaranteed.
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seadale
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23. January 2005 @ 20:15 |
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have anydvd, loaded the trail version, but either i'm lame or it didn't load right. nomatter what i try on that program it wont work. this can get very frustrating, but i really appreciate you helping me out.
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brobear
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23. January 2005 @ 20:31 |
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Which trial did you try to load.
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seadale
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23. January 2005 @ 20:43 |
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brobear
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24. January 2005 @ 01:31 |
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With a trial, if it's not expired, it should load over the older version. However, if you're having problems, delete the original and then load the later version. It is a 21 day trial. If you own AnyDVD the new versions are loaded over and supposed to be updates. If not, contact support for a new key.
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24. January 2005 @ 03:23 |
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just wanted to go with brobear on this one....when i using DVD Shrink, if i can get a movie down to 100%, with no compression and no need for deep analysis or super sharp settings everything is done in under 15 mins. However...when i get a larger size DVD, it can jump up to 1 1/2 to 2 hrs. You get the CPU involved a little more when these settings are selected.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 24. January 2005 @ 03:24
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mdinap
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24. January 2005 @ 08:41 |
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I tryed burning again with the new programs that you told me about and the times where not very dfferent. Reservior dogs took 46 minutes. All of the deep encrptions and super settings are turned off and i am in DMA mode not PIO. I have Windows XP - 512K RAM - I am not sure about the Front Side Bus specs - and a 60GB hard drive with 42.2GB free. What could be some other causes that the CPU is so high during a burn
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brobear
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24. January 2005 @ 08:59 |
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What was the size of Reservoir Dogs in gigabytes. Just put the disc in the drive and open My Computer and move the cursor over the drive with the disc in it. If it was a DVD9, 46 minutes doesn't sound bad.
10 to 15 min for a rip and about 15 min for a 4X burn (4X is the recommended speed). That leaves about 16 minutes for encoding the movie, which is quick.
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seadale
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24. January 2005 @ 15:13 |
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brobear, what do you mean by getting a new key, never got one to begin with. Do you have to register to use the trial period. the program never pompted me to? guess i'll e-mail them to find what up?. looks like me & mdinap are in the same boat. My other question is, i asked yesterday with no response, when i went to ide 2ndary. the top drop down said dma, so did the bottom box. the top box says device zero, transfer rate: dma if available, below that it says current transfer mode "pio" mode. because it says device zero, does that mean its not an active setting? Dont like seeing that pio mode. tnx again!
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brobear
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25. January 2005 @ 00:34 |
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I believe it's a 21 day trial that expires. The clock starts when you do the first install. Trials don't need a key. To have a registered version that won't expire, that takes a key to activate the first time and that has to be purchased. After all, it is retail and they want to make their money.
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brobear
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25. January 2005 @ 00:41 |
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It is an active setting. How many times to we have to say, "You need to be in DMA on the settings." We've described the process so many times, it's starting to get old. Being in PIO instead of DMA slows your recording process drastically. Fix it. Search DMA here on AD and you'll find the instructions over and over. I thought we covered that early on and you took care of it.
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mdinap
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25. January 2005 @ 03:10 |
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Brobear - i found out it is total 4.16GB's. And I do not know how to find out if it is DVD9 or DVD5? Let me know what you think about this?
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seadale
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25. January 2005 @ 04:04 |
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i'm just telling you that both ide controllers are in dma mode but in the box i cannot change it says current transfer pio, this is in device zero, is devise zero an actually device? tnx
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