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25. January 2005 @ 10:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hey yall, shrink has never let me down once, except for yesterday and 2day, i tried copying the movie "o", and the analysis as usual was ok, i unchecked everything i didnt want and started to burn as an iso image, THAN and error came up about halfway through the prccess saying it was a "Cylic Renducy Check"...ok?lol, now this is a common problem with everyone, but heres where IT GETS WIERD, isnt that supposed to happe in the analsysis? not the encoding! i dont know what to do , i tried DVD Decrypter, AnyDvd, the disc is brand new, i even borrorwed another disc to see if THAT will work, no luck, afterdawn , HEELP MEEE!! lol
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laddyboy
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25. January 2005 @ 12:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Are you sure it's not a disk defect? DVD Shrink is not graceful with respect to read errors.
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25. January 2005 @ 12:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
what do you mean? the discs i tried to burn were either brand new or used(good condition) from my friend, neither worked, the analysis turned out ok, but the encoding said there was a data renducy check ir something like that
slows
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25. January 2005 @ 13:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Evertime I've had somekind of a "Renducy" error or sorts? it was always bad disc, friends are not. ==(
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25. January 2005 @ 14:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I assume you were using the updated version of anydvd? I don't think "O" was a structurally protected DVD, so that's why I'm guessing it's a read error that causing the cyclical redundancy error message. That message also pops upon the more recent releases using structural protection. Clean the disk and try again. It doesn't take much for Shrink to falter. Have you tried to rip the disk to your HD with the newest DVD Decrypter? If you can do that, then the disk is OK. If not it's probably a bad disk or your drive is not reading well. Are you using a DVD RW drive to read the disk or a DVD ROM? What model/brand?
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25. January 2005 @ 14:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
everything is updated, it might just be a bad lens, do you think a lens cleaner can fix this?
Escobar22
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25. January 2005 @ 17:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
means dvd is scratched or dirty

something of that nature
laddyboy
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26. January 2005 @ 03:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Do you have access to another computer and/or DVD drive? If so, try to rip on that system. If you can't, it's probably a disk defect that's causing the problem. If you can rip, then it's probably your DVD drive.
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26. January 2005 @ 04:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I had that problem with a perfectly clean disc (The Crow) and I think the disc was pressed wrong. I could see smears all over the disc. If you can see some discolored smearing on the disc, that's probably your problem. Try a different copy of "O".

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26. January 2005 @ 07:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
your rightm, the dvd was pressed wrong, but i dont get it, why didnt the error come up on the anaysis? why the encoding?
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26. January 2005 @ 07:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Analysis scans the disk (every few frames, etc). It will detect egregious defects. Encoding reads every data point on the disk. Shrink will not recover from most read errors.
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26. January 2005 @ 17:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I always thought the analysis was just for the encryption, Shrink sees if it can crack it. I'm probably wrong though.

Convert PAL to NTSC or NTSC to PAL------>http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/167922
ScubaPete's guides------>http://www.dvdplusvideo.com/tutorial007.html
Bbmayo's guides------>http://home.comcast.net/~bbmayo/index.html

My ever-growing movie collection------>http://www.intervocative.com/dvdcollection.aspx/squizzle
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26. January 2005 @ 19:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
*moved from dvd-r for advanced users*
Quote:
Very Wierd Problem With Shrink
moved to guess where?




Correct ... The Shrink Forum!!

laddyboy
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27. January 2005 @ 02:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Squizzle: You're correct. My point was only that the initial analysis scans or samples the data. It doesn't read all the data in the 30 seconds or so with the initial analysis. Obviously it must read everything when processing.
squizzle
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27. January 2005 @ 11:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok, now a question I have is: What is the purpose of the Deep Analysis. This takes like 45 minutes on my computer. If the analysis is just to see if it can crack the encryption, which it can obviously tell if it can in like 2 or 3 minutes, what does it do in the other 40 minutes?

Convert PAL to NTSC or NTSC to PAL------>http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/167922
ScubaPete's guides------>http://www.dvdplusvideo.com/tutorial007.html
Bbmayo's guides------>http://home.comcast.net/~bbmayo/index.html

My ever-growing movie collection------>http://www.intervocative.com/dvdcollection.aspx/squizzle
squizzle
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27. January 2005 @ 11:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok, now a question I have is: What is the purpose of the Deep Analysis? This takes like 45 minutes on my computer. If the analysis is just to see if it can crack the encryption, which it can obviously tell if it can in like 2 or 3 minutes, what does it do in the other 40 minutes?

Convert PAL to NTSC or NTSC to PAL------>http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/167922
ScubaPete's guides------>http://www.dvdplusvideo.com/tutorial007.html
Bbmayo's guides------>http://home.comcast.net/~bbmayo/index.html

My ever-growing movie collection------>http://www.intervocative.com/dvdcollection.aspx/squizzle
Veblin
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27. January 2005 @ 12:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
DVD Shrink does have a help file. Try reading it.

Deep Analysis

The deep analysis option will encode your DVD in two passes. This will take significantly longer, but it serves two purposes:

1. It will improve video quality by allowing DVD Shrink to better distribute the required compression throughout the various scenes in your DVD.

2. It will ensure that DVD Shrink accurately meets the target size.

This option will be disabled if you already performed a deep analysis of the same DVD. DVD Shrink will remember the results of previous analysis, so there is no need to do it again. This option will also be disabled if no compression is required.
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30. January 2005 @ 17:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
well, that makes sense, so i guess you can have an renducy check error during encoding
squizzle
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30. January 2005 @ 19:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well I personally can't tell the difference whether or not I use deep analysis. Except for the extra 40 minutes or so on the process. Oh well.

Convert PAL to NTSC or NTSC to PAL------>http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/167922
ScubaPete's guides------>http://www.dvdplusvideo.com/tutorial007.html
Bbmayo's guides------>http://home.comcast.net/~bbmayo/index.html

My ever-growing movie collection------>http://www.intervocative.com/dvdcollection.aspx/squizzle
ScubaBud
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30. January 2005 @ 20:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
By any chance have you also tried VobBlanker on that movie and then Shrink?

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31. January 2005 @ 13:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
naw i havent
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