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Taiyo Yuden Discs
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roeod4
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3. April 2005 @ 21:23 |
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I'm no media guru, but I am guessing if you buy any of the media mentioned above or posted by some of the senior members and you're getting bad burns - it's not the media!
Well put. That was the point I was trying to make. I read a lot of posts on here and most of the problems people have break down into 2 categories.
#1 - bad media
#2 - poor burning method
In most cases these problems can be solved very easily. Listen to the people who have been doing this longer than you. When someone says you are using poor media and that is 99% of your problem, then for God's sake get some of the media people are recommending. Don?t argue! Why would you settle for media that produces anything other than the best? When I started I was using no-name crap and I have had to re-burn every home movie and every back -up I have made because that stuff was garbage. The sad thing is that I paid three times as much for that garbage as I did for the last batch of TY?s I just bought. I didn?t know any better, but I knew enough to know that I didn?t know any better.
Look, Listen, & most of all Learn!
P.S. - Sorry to rant a little, I just get frustrated when people ask for advice and then refuse to take it.
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4. April 2005 @ 01:40 |
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i completely agree w/ roeod4, to those hesitant about TY discs whether 4x or 8x, as long as they are authentic, i've had the misfortune of running into a 25pk of fakes; you should have no real problems burning dvds. i'm up closer to 1,200 burns on nothing but Taiyo Yuden media (coded: TYGO1 or TYGO2) with perfect playback and compatibility 99%+ of the time, the few coasters i have had in over a thousand discs were from a firmware problem that was my mistake. i have learned quite a bit from all the great people here on AD and some of the senior members and/or AD Addicts have solved my problems when ALL else fails, for that i thank you. as long as TY's are still around, i will be a happy camper and i suggest them to anyone that asks me about quality media.
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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4. April 2005 @ 05:42 |
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roeod4
My friend so directly and yet eloquently said! I am familiar with Taiyo Yuden media other than by it's reputation by buying Fuji Branded DVD media ( Japan) made which you probably already know was made for Fuji by Taiyo Yuden . Sadly it is my understanding from others here at Afterdawn.com that Fuji has changed OEM suppliers for their dvd media and it is no longer being made by Taiyo Yuden . But There is still a goodly amount of the Japanese Fuji Disc available usually mixed in with the non japanese Fuji disc at least that's how it is at the local best buy ! They seemed to put Fuji media on sale almost every week or every other week maybe for a while and I would get them when I could . But lately the Fuji's have'nt been on sale locally (BATON ROUGE LA. ) so I ordered the 4 X Dvd-r From meritline . I would have preferred 8 x DVD-R taiyo's but for $29.99 shipped for 100 dvd-r disc especially Taiyo Yudens I am not going to complain. I especially liked in your post where you mentioned listening to others especially those who've been at the dvd game longer than you . I for one have learned from my great friends at afterdawn.com such as you that the more I think I know the more I find I need to learn and want to know . So I check my ego at the door and humbly sit at the masters feet in order that I might learn . I agree with your post too so keep them coming ! well I guess I got a little longwinded on the keyboard so in closing Thank You roeod4 and friends and Peace & happy Burning to you all Bye & thanks again
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robtwilk
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4. April 2005 @ 16:22 |
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I just ran Nero's "CD-DVD Speed" test and the results I'm getting with my TY02's aren't what I expected; but the backups play with no problems and look great. At the very end of the test the errors spike (which is where I used to have coaster problems with lower quality media). Surface scans are all perfect.
Can anyone give me pointers on cutting and pasting my test results? I have tried the clipboard and Paint Shop Pro, but when I try to paste in AD.com nothing happens. Does the img in brackets work for non-url pictures?
This is just one forum that I have learned so much from over the last few years. I think it speaks volumes that we can share our knowledge with others and expect nothing in return (except a thank you, a pat on the back, or a bit of knowledge that we might lack). There are those that we might want to reach thru the monitor, across the ether, and smack on the head - but thankfully not too many! Thanks to all of you that share your knowledge with those of us who need it!
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akyllonen
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13. April 2005 @ 17:46 |
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My TY problems have finally been solved.....It was my standalone player that did not like the discs. I tried on another player and the playback was flawless. Guess it's time to get a new player.
GE Digital 1401P (TY's 4x-R's skip/pixellate; Memorex +R's play fine!)
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bek
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23. April 2005 @ 20:14 |
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I bought a 100-pack of (supposedly) Taiyo Yuden. The label said "Value DVD-R", but I didn't think much about it. Real Taiyo Yuden has always burned excellent for me (almost no coasters, ever!), but so far, 4 out of 4 coasters!! These are crap, whatever they are.
DVD Identifier says they're TY, but I don't believe it. I'm getting ready to email supermediastore. Something is screwy.
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kchev
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24. April 2005 @ 04:32 |
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they are real TY discs. there might be something else wrong with your setup. give some more information such as burner, program, and what is wrong with the discs to make them coasters
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bek
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24. April 2005 @ 16:56 |
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>they are real TY discs. there might be something else wrong with >
>your setup. give some more information such as burner, program, and
>what is wrong with the discs to make them coasters
It's the same setup I've had for the last year... Plextor 712A and RecordNow. If I knew what was wrong with the disks to make them coasters, I wouldn't have coasters. ;)
The disks are supposed to be 4x TY DVD-R. They're marked "VALUE DVD-R". Never had a problem with TY before, ever.
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rcover
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6. May 2005 @ 09:31 |
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Good Afternoon everyone, I would like an opinion Supermediastore has a sale right now. Its the one you buy 100 verbatums and get 100 linkyos free. I use linkyo but was wondering how good r the verbatums? and is that a good deal? Thank You in advance
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Synthetix
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6. May 2005 @ 11:11 |
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Verbatims are way better than linkyo! Stay away from bad media! TY, RITEK, VERBATIM are all excellent media. I personally use TYG01's, im a newbie as well, have backed up over 80 dvds flawlessly. 1 coaster, but it was my fault, dirty disk. By the way, stick to reputable online stores. Do a search, there is plenty of info here!
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6. May 2005 @ 17:33 |
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@ rcover
i actually had a heated debate about those linkyo's with another member on here, but to answer your question in the MOST direct way possible, you will NOT go wrong w/ the Verbatims. check out my sig, the only media brand i could even possibly recommend over the Verbs are the genuine Taiyo Yudens...so, YES, the Verbatims are great quality media in either format dvd-r or dvd+r, i use almost exclusively the dvd+r which is the MCC003 coded ones with perfect results every time. if the linkyo's are working for you, then great~ but, i can assure you the Verbatims are even HIGHER quality than the linkyo's...hands down.
good luck to you.
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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pieman
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7. May 2005 @ 02:20 |
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@bek....are you sure theyre genuine....whats the coding around the hub????
pork pie,fish pie,cherry pie,hairy pie.Ill eat em all
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ifyoumust
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8. May 2005 @ 12:41 |
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there are two ways of making sure the media you've bought are REAL TY's
first use Nero cd/dvd speed's disc quality check
(or something like it) the ID should read :
YUDEN000 T01 for 4x
YUDEN000 T02 for 8x
second, the text near the hub should read :
TG001158, TG001159, TG001133 or one other i can't remember
these discs are just brilliant, if you're producing bad DVD's,
IT'S NOT THESE DISCS !!!
I've done nothing but PIE / PIF testing the last couple of months,
so I should know
You've got the best discs there are, now it's time for you all to find you're own best writing method.
Another thing I've noticed ; the 8x TY's I'm using with my NEC3520A don't have good results at the beginning of the disc (still better than other media though) since my NEC starts of at 4x, then goes up to 6x and 8x... the 4x part is not as good as the rest.
Writing at 12x on these 8x TY's will give the same result, but now at the end of the disc (the 12x written part)
there's more to it than you think at first
get a good media + burner + writing method + player
TY is an excellent start ;)
and by the way, i'm using the fuji-branded TY's, and they still knock out any competition
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pieman
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8. May 2005 @ 14:05 |
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@ifyoumust....have you tried another burner...just out of interest
pork pie,fish pie,cherry pie,hairy pie.Ill eat em all
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kenkell
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8. May 2005 @ 14:39 |
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My 2 cents about dvd media! I have burned over 750, yes 750 dvds since december 2005 on my burner. The TDK dvd+r which, I've mostly burned to date, (about 500) burn awesome. Hardly ever do I have a problem with a bad burn. Those I purchase mostly from my local Best Buy store and they play in everyones dvd players! I have given burned copies to over 25 of my friends and family and the TDK brand type media, plays in everyone of their players. I have never ever had someone tell that type media wasn't accepted in their dvd player! I've burned 200 Fuji dvd+r and that type media also burns great everytime and also plays in everyones dvd player! I took the advice of few on this site and bought the Taiyo Yuden brand from Supermedia store. The price was good. The were dvd-r. The coding on those came up TYGO1 so i know they were real. They do burn about just as good as the other two brands, but are NOT as widely accepted in all my friends dvd players. In fact they play in about 50% of them. Even the newest dvd player in my home, I paid over $100 for the TY can't play in it. Since then I have stopped burning the TY's. Everyone told me they were wisely accepted compared to some of the rest of the brands but I disagree! I'm sticking with the Fuji's that are made in Japan and old the faithful TDK's that are made in China! I see no need to make a change anymore! Best Buy has frequent sales on both brands and thy come pretty cheap.
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rcover
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8. May 2005 @ 14:48 |
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It not december 2005 yet LOL And also its not today if there good but will they be any good 1 yr 2yrs or what that is why some people stress good media. Sorry to burst your bubble. Some people have disc of lower quaility they burned 1 yr and some less than a yr and they don't work today. So you might want to check this out.
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kenkell
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8. May 2005 @ 17:45 |
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OOPS, so sorry! I meant I've been burning dvd media since december 2004! Friends of mine have been burning the TDKs for almost the past two years and they play as good as they did the day they burned it! You're not bursting MY bubble, friend! I have read NOTHING about anyone burning the Fuji's or TDK's and then NOT playing after two years with proper storage. I personally have a burned dvd copy of my wedding on "cheap" media that was burned three years ago from a foriegn country and it plays as good as it did the day I got it. I'm sure there is some crappy media out there, but I don't think the TDK or Fuji are one of them. Time will tell with them and even the "higher quality" TY's!
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8. May 2005 @ 23:01 |
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sorry to "burst ur bubble" for the 1st time, but the FUJIs u speak of if they ARE made in japan like you said, ARE TY's~ :)
the tdks, if they work great, congrats~ but, just wanted to point out the fact that the FUJI from local stores such as best buy ARE IN FACT TY if you purchased the spindle that was "made in japan"
good day to you :)
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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ifyoumust
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9. May 2005 @ 07:26 |
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I just ordered another 16 25-spindles of the FUJI BRANDED
TY's... indeed : MADE IN JAPAN
and to me it's more important to be able to play MY 'backups' in
MY stand-alone DVD-player, i really don't care if anyone else
can play it or not (i copy the original DVD to DVD+R, and put
the original DVD somewhere safe, not for using thus... this way my
'backed-up DVD' (the original DVD) will last a very long time ;) )
and i just use my copy, and i know this Taiyo Yuden
DVD+R will last a long time too, cause it starts off with a
lot less PIE's and PIF's... and since it's TY, these shouldn't gain
too fast
strange way of thinking or not?
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9. May 2005 @ 16:58 |
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i agree w/ u completely~ :)
do what you must for your OWN personal setup, all the tips and advice in here are/should be a "guide" to your purchases and backing up process, nothing should be taken at more than face value.
i for one, use ONLY Taiyo Yuden and Verbatim, so, im familiar with both of these discs. these 2 work great on MY setup and MY stand alones, as you stated...so, good luck to everyone else with their OWN setups~
TY's are great and with thousands of burns, at least for ME, i wouldn't have it any other way~ :)
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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robtwilk
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16. May 2005 @ 15:57 |
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My only comment is that I would not be happy making backups that JUST play in my standalone players - cause one day that player is going to be a paperweight, drift anchor, or trash.
You'd better hope your new player(s) play your old backups (in many cases this is hundreds of DVD's you've backed up). Yes you could pull your original DVD out of storage and make another copy, but what about all the money you paid for the blank media that no longer plays in your new player(s)??
I'd rather spend the money up front to guarantee my future is full of old backups that work!
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16. May 2005 @ 16:02 |
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logical reasoning to me~ i would have to agree w/ you~ :)
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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ifyoumust
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16. May 2005 @ 22:48 |
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Well, I'll just do the same thing I did when I bought this DVD player:
I took a few DVD's to the store where I bought it,
and asked if I could test if they worked...
My other DVD-player strangely has problems with playing back original DVD's, so "let's go rent a movie" wasn't a good idea anymore.
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17. May 2005 @ 04:45 |
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im sorry to hear of your compatibility problems on your dvd player, that really sucks~ :(
the few dvd player stand alones that can't read genuine TYs burned correctly, i wouldn't even bother with them. if it really can't play the best of the best, what good is it for future compatibility? it's not even worth trying the crappola media then...
but, to have a stand alone dvd player not play ORIGINAL pressed dvds...that is a new one i have yet to experience...may i ask what kind it is? that is truly unusual. :P
good luck in getting a more compatible one, have a good one.
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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ifyoumust
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17. May 2005 @ 07:24 |
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That crappy player was a Welltech (not-so-well-tech if you ask me) 40954 / HTDVD02.. a very cheap, and portable one (came in handy a few times) about the size of a discman...
My new Pioneer DV-470 doesn't have problems playing originals nor Taiyo Yudens. But it is a bit picky with my old Platinum's (they're full of PIE's and PIF's), where the Welltech was not as much...
So now, I'm rewriting my Platinum's to TY.
Those Platinums are so full of errors, I wonder how any stand-alone is able to read them. Appearantly the welltech could, so that makes it all even more confusing :s
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