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ifyoumust
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26. May 2005 @ 07:18 |
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Happy Burning!
Amen to that!!
and by the way... what are these 'features' everybody seems so interested in?
my dvd player has resume, and that's done automatically, it reads VCD's (really needed a player that could do that) and DIVX (don't care too much about that) and zoom... which i've never even used...
other features???? don't know if i care
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robtwilk
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26. May 2005 @ 14:25 |
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Good question. Features are only as important as your expectations. I consider features to include video and audio quality. Here are some items that I appreciate in a good DVD player:
? Dobly Digital and DTS decoding
? Signal-to-Noise Ratio: >115 dB
? Dynamic Range: >103 dB (DVD Video & SA-CD); >99 dB (CD)
? Harmonic Distortion: <0.003%
? HDMI-Interface
? Video - Component Video Output x 1
? Video - S-Video Output x 2
? Video - Composite Video Output x 2
? Audio - Analog Audio Output x 2
? Video - Optical Digital and Coaxial Digital Output x 1
? Audio - 5.1 Channel Audio Output (Gold Connectors)
? 720p (1080i up-scaling) resolution
? DVD/CD Text
? Full 3-2 Reverse Conversion
? TV Virtual Surround - 4 Surround Modes (say for a bedroom)
? Custom Picture Mode (Vivid, Normal, Movie, Professional)
A standard Norcent player has no more than one of each input/output, it only has one type of digital audio output (what if you used up your coaxial inputs on a component and you need to use fiber optic?), it does not appear to have gold audio connectors, it has no HDMI interface and with that comes no upconversion, the resolution is about 500 lines, it does not specify if it has DVD/CD text or 3-2 reverse pull down, not sure about Custom Picture Modes, and if I'm reading the specs correctly - No DTS decoding?! Is that true?
Try watching "Enemy at the Gates" (using Movie or Professional Picture Mode) on a HDTV with very low lighting in the room. Now that's a cinematic experience!
If all this makes you think "who gives a crap", then features are not important to you and you should never pay for them. Also - I am not a hardcore audio or videophile; I do not buy studio quality electronics. Those people would laugh at me if I thought the list of features above was adequate. Everything in this world is relative!
If you're happy with what you have, do NOT change a thing!
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jpp01uk
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6. June 2005 @ 08:35 |
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i use these does anyone know anything about them, MR DVD is the brand. i mean basically if there fakes? they work 100% but i just would like to know if there fakes or not
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Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD+R:YUDEN000-T02-000]
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Disc & Book Type : [DVD+R] - [DVD+R]
Manufacturer Name : [Taiyo Yuden Co. Ltd.]
Manufacturer ID : [YUDEN000]
Media Type ID : [T02]
Product Revision : [Not Specified]
Blank Disc Capacity : [2,295,104 Sectors = 4,482.6MB = 4.38GB (4.70GB)]
Recording Speeds : [1x , 2.4x , 4x , 6x-8x]
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[ DVD Identifier - http://DVD.Identifier.CDfreaks.com ]
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jpp01uk
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6. June 2005 @ 08:38 |
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ooops sorry i just searched for it, and now its in the DVD - r section not + r...sorry!!
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6. June 2005 @ 08:41 |
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my newly purchased (genuine) TY disks are skipping in my kid's old (Samsung 807) standalone player. I'm not happy, back to Verbs for me as this is the first disc (not counting crappy fake bulkpaq) to skip in that player
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djlen
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6. June 2005 @ 09:40 |
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Isn't that strange. Creaky, I have gone through 300 TY's. The first 100 played almost 100%. The second 100 played about 50%(in my finicky stand-alone, but all played in my Kenwood).
I just finished up my third 100pk. and it's again very close to 100% even in the finicky player.
I intend to try a pack of 'Verbs' as soon as I see them on sale at a decent price on SuperMediaStore.com.
BTW, I am very disappointed in something having to do with that site.
I got an e-mail advertising a great sale on 200 Ty's and 200 disc envelops. The sale still had 3 days to run when I tried to order them. They were marked 'out of stock'. I called and talked to 3 different people and couldn't get any satisfaction. I figure that if they advertise something, the least they can do is honor an order with a 'rain check', when there is that much time to run on the sale.
Guess they just don't do that on that site.
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6. June 2005 @ 09:47 |
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that particular player is the first region-free that came out in the UK, and while old, had hardly been used over the years. However i guess it's a tad picky, and i'm just glad it plays copies considering it's age. At least i can still use the TY's for other machines, or swap 'em with someone for more Verbs. Ah well, can't win them all
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robtwilk
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7. June 2005 @ 10:31 |
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The Sony TY's that I have been buying from CompUSA are working at about 99.9%. I have been thru 300+ so far with only one or two bad burns. I still have 350 sitting on my shelves. I have seven players, one stand-alone recorder, and six DVD+/-RW drives. My backups work on all players in my house.
I have seen no fluctuation in the quality as appears to be happening with the generic (cakebox) TY's you mention. I have used about 60 generic TY's I bought from Rima.com. They have all worked perfectly.
Sucks to have spotty batches - what's up with that?! So far I have been lucky enough to avoid that with my TY's.
I went thru my pain with Memorex!!! Although many of those bad burns were caused by Xcopy when it wasn't decoding the DVD perfectly. Shrink/Decrypter don't cause those problems - they are smart enough to crash before burning to disc. Xcopy just breezed right thru the process regardless if the decryption method was perfect. That's all spilled milk now!
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daimyo
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7. June 2005 @ 10:46 |
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djlen, it's possible that since these that deal was for old stock TY 4x they are trying to get rid of, there isn't any point in a raincheck...
there may not BE any more coming in.
you may notice over time that these places CAN have really
uhhh 'interesting' definition and practice of customer service - especially if they are located in the 'city of industry'.
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7. June 2005 @ 10:56 |
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I have been buying 16x Taiyo Yuden media dash at Rima.com for a long time. They have the media I.D. of TYG-03 and they play in everything. The burns are flawless with my NEC 3520A 1UF and my L.G. 4163B A104. I wouldn't buy anything else. 50.00 for 100 and 6.14 for shipping. Not the cheapest but the best.
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keskamess
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7. June 2005 @ 18:45 |
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I don't post much but here's my 3 cents:
If one takes the time to read the posts, ideas and suggestions, things tend to run alot smoother. I have a LiteOn Burner (Dual Layer) that reads (and burns) everything I throw at her and hasn't disappointed me yet.
I have a 'high-end' Samsung DVD Player (attached to my TV) that I did have a few problems with as far as reading my DVD's and CD's. I went to WalMart and bought a $40.00 player and it works like a dream and has no problem reading the Discs.
Some of the problems I did have, but learned from my mistakes at this very Forum - thanks guys, was that not only was I using the wrong media (inferior), I was also burning at too high a speed. Now I only use Verbatim and Fuji (Japan) discs and always burn at 4x only. I'll wait out the burn in order to have quality.
I'm at the point now that if I am having a problem, I search the posts and 100% of the time (yes 100%) the answer is already here.
I know the Forum topic is TY Discs so let me end on saying I got a great deal on 50 of them for $20.00 (Can.) at BB.
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7. June 2005 @ 20:08 |
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7. June 2005 @ 20:08 |
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7. June 2005 @ 20:41 |
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My killer sig came courtesy of bb "El Jefe" mayo.
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7. June 2005 @ 23:38 |
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@ keskamess
not much i can add here, but to those that know me, they know EXACTLY where i stand on Taiyo Yuden :) and for those of you that are new, have a look around and do a search for me regarding TY, i will be more than happy to assist you if your question is not already answered from the past~ :)
@robtwilk
my Sony dvd+r Yudens are working VERY nicely for me as well, thanks for the tip from not too long ago~ :) i'm glad to see you have near 100% flawless burns too~ while i don't have as many of the Sonys as you do left...i have many of the Fuji MIJ ones that are comparable in quality~ :)
good day to you all~
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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robtwilk
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8. June 2005 @ 11:47 |
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@kivory666
Keep your eyes opened for the same sale every few months at CompUSA. I try to post a thread now, whenever I come across the sale. Circuit City had a better sale a few weeks ago - $17.98 per 50 pack. They were the MIJ versions, but they only had two left in stock - which I bought.
Glad you're as satisfied as I have been with these! It was truly a lucky discovery at a great price! I still prefer these over all other media I've tried. It would be nice to get some 16x, but I don't know if I would have the same number of good burns at that speed. I can live with perfection at 8x for now.
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8. June 2005 @ 13:57 |
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@ robtwilk
im with you on that boat, i have a few TY 16x..the TYGO3s...they are terrific, but, i am more than happy with my 8x..since i burn at full 8x now..i don't even need to slow it down for perfection as you stated~ :)
i keep my eyes peeled too, but, im sitting on a few hundred Verbatims as well as TY right now, so, im good for at least a month~ :)
thanks for your reply~
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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robtwilk
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8. June 2005 @ 14:56 |
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@kivory666
I too have enough for a while - maybe two months, but I got nervous when a bunch of Sony's were all MIT instead of MIJ. I thought maybe Sony was switching to all MIT, so I wanted to buy as many MIJ's as I could. It appears that more MIJ's are hitting the shelves which means we might be OK.
BTW - did you experiment with ratDVD yet? Not sure you have a need for it, but it does a decent job of shrinking the file size of a DVD so it fits on your PC's HD nicely. You can also play the movie from your HD using Windows Media Player 10. Check out the ratDVD forum here at AD - there's some good banter going on concerning this product. ***I do not endorse this product - it's still in its early stages of release - but it's been fun to test.***
Good chatting with you again - happy buring!
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8. June 2005 @ 15:03 |
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@ robtwilk
actually, i HAVE NOT tried the ratdvd yet, as you assumed, i have no real need for it, i have purchased many of the other older software programs already( many obsolete, but i paid for them at the time), such as dvdcloner2, dvdxcopy, intervideo dvdcopy3, vso copytodvd, slysoft clonedvd2 (with AnyDVD combo deal) and the list continues...i still stick w/ shrink and AnyDVD for encryption for 99% of my backups.
happy burning to you too~ i will leave ratdvd for the others to try out and use as i am very comfy with the current programs i use now and im not getting any younger :P
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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8. June 2005 @ 15:28 |
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Where did you find Media player 10? I thought Windows Media Player 9 was the latest.
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8. June 2005 @ 15:39 |
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@aland
i use media player 10 also...just open up your media player 9 and click on help--->check for player updates..that should link you to the download and upgrade~ :)
i've had media player 10 for MONTHS now~ :) hope that helps~
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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8. June 2005 @ 16:01 |
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Thanks Kivory666, I never recieved an update or even read anyone talking about it. I am usually up to date on these things, but I missed this one. Thankyou for your input.
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8. June 2005 @ 16:14 |
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anytime i can be of service~ :) u welcome~
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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robtwilk
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9. June 2005 @ 20:38 |
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@ kivory666
I was a big Xcopy user and owned several versions - two Platinum, Gold, and a very old copy of Xcopy Simple that was sent to me by one of the developers at 321. It was cool when you could actually correspond with those guys. It served its purpose when it was alive and kicking. Although I made a lot of coasters.
The free stuff has worked so much better! Xcopy was simple though - just a couple clicks and it was fast as lightning. I was down to 16 minutes total - using 4x media. I think we all have learned that fast is not always better!!!!!
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