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New stronger DVD copy protection introduced
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The following comments relate to this news article:
article published on 17 February, 2005
Macrovision has developed a new, stronger DVD copy protection that it says will make it more difficult to rip protected DVDs. RipGuard will thwart most of the DVD ripping software currently on the market.
According to Macrovision RipGuard protected DVDs will play in "nearly all" current DVD players. The company, however, failed to be more specific about the number of players the discs ... [ read the full article ]
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nanu-nanu
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17. February 2005 @ 13:52 |
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Anyone willing to start a collection fund for who ever crack Ripgaurd? But 3% of the known rippers get past ripgaurd. SO guess it wont be too long before its figured out
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17. February 2005 @ 14:25 |
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That thought about the copy protection only affecting legitimate customers hits the nail right on the head. All they're doing with these new protection methods is driving their customers away and turning them to doing exactly what they're trying to stop - P2P distribution of movies.
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17. February 2005 @ 14:49 |
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Looks like the game is afoot once again. It won't be long before they'll have a copyguard that will crash your machine outright when you play a DVD on it.
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zombieman
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17. February 2005 @ 15:21 |
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are they going to be offering refunds to those people who owns the dvd players that dont play the new dvds? I wonder how your local retailers will handle these returns. As far a that goes it kinda opening a loophole for us once we can crack this copy protection. I'll simply go out and buy it, copy it, and return it, with the excuss of it not playing on my player. I mean really, how can they legitmatley turn you away when you have purchased a dvd that you cannot watch?
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daemonzx6
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17. February 2005 @ 15:26 |
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That's an interesting thought.
This kind of thing just promotes the crackers to try harder, and also provokes me to further copying and giving away of DVDs and CDs.
These companies waste millions of dollars developing encryption and "fair use" schemes that just make it harder for the average consumer to ever get any use out of what he/she buys. Maybe these industries should spend more money trying to make a quality film once in a while...
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Balaam
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17. February 2005 @ 16:58 |
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RipGuard will thwart most of the DVD ripping software currently on the market
LOL
By the time ripguard becomes widely used, numerous progies will be able to handle it. :worthy: LightningUK! (the genius behind DVD Decrypter) will be able to handle this laugher in his sleep.
But hey, is the movie industry wants to alienate their customers by making disc that can't be played in soe players, and waste money to keep running this endless race against copiers, let em.
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Hrdrk20
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17. February 2005 @ 17:05 |
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Does anyone know what movie title will have this Ripguard? I'm looking foward to attempting to rip these titles. lol
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nrk4594
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17. February 2005 @ 17:22 |
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RipGuard is expected to be rolled out on DVDs from the middle of 2005, the company said.
Is this the protection found on movies like The Grudge and Little Black Book, or is this a new protection not yet used on discs?
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climbhigh
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17. February 2005 @ 17:38 |
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>>>Is this the protection found on movies like The Grudge and Little Black Book, or is this a new protection not yet used on discs? <<<
No, that was Arccos puppetlock, which by the way, is not even a new encyrption. All that does is through in dummy (corrupt sectors) right before the movie so most progs will get a read error, or will just not work.
As for RIPGUARD. Fear not.. as other posters have said. It's really too early to start crying foul and howl at the moon just yet. There is no doubt in my mind that RIPGUARD will be defeated. We'll cross that bridge when we get to it..
Baby steps, man.
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17. February 2005 @ 18:59 |
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Man, I just love you guys being so confident that ripguard will undertaken...lol.....cool. All the posters make sense on how these corps are driving on blind roads with the copyprotection situations. It's makes these communities stronger, and the sharing bcomes more broader , in the ultimate sense it's like the samson and goliath story.
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17. February 2005 @ 19:30 |
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it will be something to the effect of DVD Jon's experence. If the current tools won't crack the software, then the decryption method will be "leaked" and the ripping will start all over again.
I predict that something similar to this will happen:
http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/5966.cfm
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ogryzek
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17. February 2005 @ 19:37 |
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There is a simple solution to all this nonsense - DVD movie pricing that reflects the reality that at some point it doesn't make any sense to make an illegal copy of a movie.
It seems to me that if movies were priced somewhere in the $5.99 to $7.99 range, I would be willing to purchase pretty much everything that was produced in last 20 years (Ok... maybe not every single one). At the same time I would be willing to drop special features (as those are pretty lame in 9 out of 10 cases), fancy packaging (simple cardboard envelope would do) and silkscreened disk artwork.
Now, places like Walmart already sell discounted DVDs (including a few 'decent' movie titles) priced at $5.50. Way to go...
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ogryzek
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17. February 2005 @ 19:38 |
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There is a simple solution to all this nonsense - DVD movie pricing that reflects the reality that at some point it doesn't make any sense to make an illegal copy of a movie.
It seems to me that if movies were priced somewhere in the $5.99 to $7.99 range, I would be willing to purchase pretty much everything that was produced in last 20 years (Ok... maybe not every single one). At the same time I would be willing to drop special features (as those are pretty lame in 9 out of 10 cases), fancy packaging (simple cardboard envelope would do) and silkscreened disk artwork.
Now, places like Walmart already sell discounted DVDs (including a few 'decent' movie titles) priced at $5.50. Way to go...
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tmkansell
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17. February 2005 @ 20:58 |
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The Walmart here in MN has some DVD in half thick DVD cases for only $0.88! The movies are all pretty lame, but some of the poorly made Westerns they have are hella funny :P
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SkyDomain
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18. February 2005 @ 02:32 |
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I am not worried Slysoft AnyDVD will soon have a update that covers this protection.
Plus I don't rip movies I just copy them with CloneDVD.
These protections are useless!
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18. February 2005 @ 11:51 |
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Yup..
Another Waste Of Research and Money.. Someone will eventually find a way past it..
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frankosee
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18. February 2005 @ 15:42 |
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DVD Region+CSS Free never let me down. It already supports new Sony ARccOS protection. No doubt they will support RipGuild too.
BTW, DVDFab Platinum is another great product by Fengtao Software. It lets me copy any protected DVD perfectly without help of DVD Region+CSS Free.
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18. February 2005 @ 18:11 |
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Not that I condone illegally copying anything, but it is my feeling that the harder they try to prevent someone from copying their products the more it makes people want to copy them. Sony has their ARccOS copy protection which uses the fake bad sector method and that had been broken every time Sony releases an update. Ripguard will be no different. The fact that this new "prtection" will cause some DVD players not to play the movies is ridiculus. That is not fair to the consumer that has a perfectly good DVD player and the fact that it is a few years old should not prevent them from playing a movie.
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gsuscrazy
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18. February 2005 @ 21:36 |
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skopas: it was david and goliath...
samson was the one who grew long hair the was blessed with superhuman strength as long as his hair was long...
as for this protection...
rent the movie, borrow the movie..watch it one time... odds are it aint worth the 45 cents for the dvd, and the 30 minutes of your time.
really.
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zeppelin
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19. February 2005 @ 03:32 |
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Id just like to comment that there is also "hacks" for you home dvd players.I have a sony, model number dvpns315.I found a Region code and Macrovision hack for my model.check out this site for more info http://www.videohelp.com/dvdhacks
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daemonzx6
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19. February 2005 @ 13:22 |
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yeah, videohelp.com is one of the best sites out there for, well, video help. lots of codec testing and results are on that website, as well as a DVD player media compatibility database.
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cmmnsense
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24. February 2005 @ 14:42 |
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DVD Decrypter can do it... just kidding, I got your hopes up didn't I? Anyhow, I'll be watching for afterdawns free download of the new decrypting software. I really hope they just update DVD Shrink because I like just taking the movie and burning it uncompressed to a $0.80 Verbatim DVD-R.
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fancymojo
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25. February 2005 @ 01:42 |
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dvd decpryter will be able to do it LIGHTNING_UK! is the man/woman. he/she did it with re2 and little black book in no time! ripguard doesnt stand a chance in hell! go ahead waste money and time and also alienate the consumers. this is what i think we should boycott whatever company uses ripguard go to our local rental store and rip the movie and pass it out to our friends for free
LONG LIVE THE REVOLUTION!!!
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a254535
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25. February 2005 @ 05:37 |
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I travel a lot. I copy my movies to take them with me. I do this so if they get lost/stolen or broken I still have my movie at home. If they make them so that when I rent or buy them and they don't work on any of my players, they are forcing me to go to P2P to get them so that they will play on my players. They are hurting their own market. What they need to understand is there is always going to be someone to break the coding. They need to find another way of dealing with this. One way is pricing.They need to keep thinking.
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daemonzx6
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25. February 2005 @ 19:38 |
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hah, maybe one day they'll get it through their thick skulls that copy protection is pointless.
i, too, copy cds and dvds to use or take with me and keep my originals in their cases, so if it gets scratched i'll still have the original.
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