|
Audio question!
|
|
|
forkndave
Member
|
24. February 2005 @ 21:31 |
Link to this message
|
I'll have to say that I can tell the difference in DTS and AC3 5.1 audio. It's not a great difference, but I can tell it with my system. I generally don't keep the DTS due to the size, though. I would never record a DVD with DTS only since you wouldn't have any sound on most DVD players. I think that many DVD players actually will decode DTS, but unless you have a surround system with a digital input you'll never hear it. I've got a DVD recorder that I've got my cable box connected to and I just hooked up an optical cable to my A/V system and I get everything including TV in surround sound. The A/V system somehow converts 2 channel to 5.1. It sounds good anyhow.
|
|
Advertisement
|
|
|
|
|
sadsac
Suspended due to non-functional email address
|
25. February 2005 @ 04:31 |
Link to this message
|
|
Can someone please answer the previous question in reference to 2 channel audio. I've yet to get a difinitive answer.
Why do some movies have 3 or 4 versions of 2 channel English audio. I'm not talking about one version of English, one version of Spanish, one version of commentary audio.......I noticed several movies containing one commentary track, one Spanish track, one French track, then 5.1, DTS, and oddly, 3 or 4 versions of 2 channel English audio.
Why all the different tracks. The next time I notice it, I'll post the movie. I may even go through my originals and see if I can find one.
It doesn't make sense since that takes up tons of space. I'm scared to uncheck all of them because it might mess up the backup. I really don't like burning coasters.
HELP
|
AfterDawn Addict
|
25. February 2005 @ 05:02 |
Link to this message
|
|
Them other 2 channel englisk tracks are normally directors comment's or something like that.. Thats why the safest bet is to use the 5.1CH english everytime and uncheck everything else...
My Guides--------->http://webpages.charter.net/bacitup/
Newbies------------>http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/183136
Software ------->http://webpages.charter.net/bacitup/software.htm |
|
sadsac
Suspended due to non-functional email address
|
25. February 2005 @ 05:17 |
Link to this message
|
|
Is there a way to listen to the tracks to be sure I'm not taking off anything I don't want to? As I said before, I always uncheck the commentary tracks, but a few movies I have looked at contain 2 or 3 commentary tracks in addition to 3 or 4 2 channel English audio tracks.
|
|
brobear
Suspended permanently
|
25. February 2005 @ 07:06 |
Link to this message
|
|
Sadsac
I've seen what you're referring to. A lot of movies have the 2 channel commentary and then more 2 channel tracks in addition to the commentary. I haven't really delved into their content because I choose 5.1, if I make a choice. I suspect they are for the movie and for extras. I haven't tried breaking them down to see what goes where. More trouble than it's worth for me. Since you brought it up, it does cause a bit of curiosity. It'll be interesting to see what you find.
|
AfterDawn Addict
|
25. February 2005 @ 08:17 |
Link to this message
|
|
I'm with Brobear on this one, and am not sure if there is a proggy out there that will let you know exctly what each audio is. Other than copying them seperatly and listening to each one. Just seems like a lot of waste of time when all you need to do is use the 5.1CH sound, but it does raise my curiosity. In fact when I get home I may have to experiment myself. :-)
My Guides--------->http://webpages.charter.net/bacitup/
Newbies------------>http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/183136
Software ------->http://webpages.charter.net/bacitup/software.htm
|
|
sadsac
Suspended due to non-functional email address
|
25. February 2005 @ 08:20 |
Link to this message
|
|
Here's an example I immediately found.
Spiderman disc 1 has the following:
English 5.1 410MB
French 5.1 352MB
English 2 channel 175MB
English 2 channel 175MB
English 2 channel 175MB
English 1 channel 87 MB
There are no less than 3 2 channel English audio tracks on the disk. And I'v never heard of 1 channel audio being on a disk.
What's up with that??
|
|
gerard514
Member
|
25. February 2005 @ 11:11 |
Link to this message
|
|
Would you say that this program is better than shrink as far as quality of compression. Mainly is the video quality and playback look better than shrink, or are these two programs just about the same.
Thanks for the help.
|
|
forkndave
Member
|
25. February 2005 @ 12:22 |
Link to this message
|
If you want to hear the different tracks, preview the movie in DVD Shrink and right click on the preview screen. This will allow you to select any track to listen to to see what it is. Any track except DTS, that is, because I don't think most computers will play it. It would sound the same as the AC3-5.1 if you could hear it. The extras sometimes have all sorts of audio tracks since each extra may have a different kind of audio. I usually record all of those if I use the extras. I generally only retain the 5.1 for the main movie unless I feel I have enough room for the DTS. On movies that have 5.1 and 2 channel that are identical, I keep the 5.1 and don't use the 2 channel. The 5.1 is larger than the 2 channel but I feel it's worth it. If anyone is worried about DVD players not converting 5.1 to 2 channel, just remember that a lot of DVDs have 5.1 only and they play OK on everything.
|
|
brobear
Suspended permanently
|
25. February 2005 @ 16:37 |
Link to this message
|
|
The lesson started back with mono and stereo. Stereo played on the mono and you could get mono out both stereo speakers, though some did just play mono on one side. Basically, the same carries over to multi speaker systems. The industry is going to try to reach the most equipment to maximize profits.
|
|
sadsac
Suspended due to non-functional email address
|
25. February 2005 @ 16:42 |
Link to this message
|
|
Thanks forkndave, for your post. I didn't realize you could right click on the preview screen and change audio tracks.
This answers the question completely. I noticed on one DVD that there were 2 versions of 2 channel audio. Usually, they list one version as 2 channel English commentary. This particular disk didn't say "commentary", but the audio was commentary.
This was the answer I was searching for. Thanks!
|
|
brobear
Suspended permanently
|
25. February 2005 @ 16:56 |
Link to this message
|
|
Sadsac
If you're wanting to get confused, you can try the movie Cellular. That one went wild listing 2 channel tracks. Also, when clicking the viewer to change sound, I've noticed it will list one 2 channel selection when there are a few in the Audio listing; not counting the commentary. One still has the problem of ascertianing which is which. If there is only the commentary and a regular 2 channel and they're listed as such, that's a no brainer.
|
|
brobear
Suspended permanently
|
25. February 2005 @ 17:03 |
Link to this message
|
|
Also, if you're not familiar with the viewer, you can double click and enlarge it to full screen on the monitor. Another double click restores it to the small size. You can right click while enlarged for the controls as well. Fullscreen in the right click menu moves you up and down as well.
|
|
gerard514
Member
|
25. February 2005 @ 20:23 |
Link to this message
|
|
Would the dts channel not work just because usually laptops dont have the decoder? Or would you still get some sound? Any one else using a laptop that maybe able to play back dts.
Thanks for the help.
|
|
brobear
Suspended permanently
|
25. February 2005 @ 20:31 |
Link to this message
|
|
With a PC, the important thing is the software that rips and encodes the files. As far as playing goes, a laptop can't play DTS because it doesn't have the speaker system. You can play sound if you have audio, but it wouldn't be true DTS. After all, DTS is for surround sound and you need a DTS compatible entertainment system with surround sound speakers to be able to benefit from the DTS encoded media.
|
|
gerard514
Member
|
25. February 2005 @ 21:07 |
Link to this message
|
|
Ok, i kinda figure thats how it would work. I get the 5.1 sound but when i change the audio over to dts i do not get anything out of the speakers. Puzzles me.
Thanks for the response
|
|
GatlinGun
Member
|
25. February 2005 @ 21:49 |
Link to this message
|
|
In a properly set up system (I have 7.1/front spks/center/side spks/rear spks)DTS is much better than Dolby Digital. The sound is much cleaner, and the center speaker is really enhanced. Best of all, you'd better have a great sub-woofer. I've known some friends to blow out their subs with a monster DTS sound track. I know, I have 35 movies with the DTS sountrack.
DTS is standard on most Receivers and DVD players. Listen and hear the difference. The DTS soundtrack doesn't have to be the over-the-top action movie for it to sound wonderful.
|
|
brobear
Suspended permanently
|
25. February 2005 @ 22:18 |
Link to this message
|
|
There goes the vacation money and little Bobby doesn't get his braces. But then we don't need the vacation this year and little Bobby can watch the movies in the dark. So no one will see his teeth. Hmmm... Yep, granma's operation will have to wait to. Gotta have that DTS sound. LOL In reality it isn't that steep. But, if you don't already have a decent speaker system, getting everything needed will set one back several hundred dollars. And what is surround sound without a big screen. More bucks. So, for DTS to be worthwhile, you're looking at a high dollar entertainment center.
|
|
sadsac
Suspended due to non-functional email address
|
26. February 2005 @ 03:41 |
Link to this message
|
|
We just had our house built last year. I'm still trying to get my wife to allow me to put up satellite surround speakers on the walls. No luck yet. I guess I'll have to finish off some of the basement and build a theater room.
|
|
GatlinGun
Member
|
26. February 2005 @ 08:01 |
Link to this message
|
|
Without a proper surround sound set up, you are missing the the total experience that matches the sound with the movie. Surround sound makes the movie.
|
|
gerard514
Member
|
26. February 2005 @ 09:01 |
Link to this message
|
|
Would you still hear audio if you select the dts audio channel? I had selected the 5.1 audio and i still heard the sound? I know it wont be true 5.1 or true dts..however this is just for testing purposes.
Thanks for the help and reply.
|
|
GatlinGun
Member
|
27. February 2005 @ 18:32 |
Link to this message
|
|
whatever sound format you select, that's the sound you'll get.
|
|
gerard514
Member
|
28. February 2005 @ 17:28 |
Link to this message
|
|
I am not able to hear the dts sound from my computer? Any possible suggestions?
Thanks for the help.
|
AfterDawn Addict
|
28. February 2005 @ 18:47 |
Link to this message
|
|
Take out your ear plugs!!! LOL
You should be able to hear it. Of course not in DTS format, but you should hear it just the same. Hmmmmm?
My Guides--------->http://webpages.charter.net/bacitup/
Newbies------------>http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/183136
Software ------->http://webpages.charter.net/bacitup/software.htm
|
|
Advertisement
|
|
|
|
forkndave
Member
|
28. February 2005 @ 19:41 |
Link to this message
|
|
I can't hear DTS on my computer because it doesn't support it. The AC3 5.1 works fine. There may be some sound cards that support DTS, but I'm not sure. To hear DTS I have to connect my DVD player to my receiver/amplifier through a digital cable. I believe the sound is a little cleaner, but there's nothing on it that's not on the AC3 5.1 audio. I doubt you could tell any difference if it would play on your computer unless you really had a super computer sound system. I have 5.1 speakers on my computer and the AC3 5.1 sounds pretty good. I don't really care to watch movies on my computer anyhow. Since thw DTS audio takes so much room on the DVD it's sort of a moot point for me since I rarely include it.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 28. February 2005 @ 19:44
|
