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wikky1
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1. March 2005 @ 15:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
alright everyone. i successfully burned my project with a MEMOREX 8X DVD+R. i tried to burn a second the project again, but it didn't work on a TDK 2X DVD-R. I think my minimum write speed is 4x on my TDK drive and that's what caused the error. perhaps i need 4x discs?
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i successfully burned my project with a MEMOREX 8X DVD+R. i tried to burn a second the project again, but it didn't work on a TDK 2X DVD-R
Sounds like a media issue to me. Try updating the firmware for that drive. Here is a link that will get you close http://www.tdk.com/dvdburners/index.html



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im pretty sure the firmware is fine. I don't know where it is on the website u sent me, but when i took the drive out to reconnect everything, it is labeled on the drive as: Firmware version 1.0C. I think thats the newest version but im not sure. Shouldn't my TDK burner be able to burn 2X DVD-R's even though it says on the box that the write speed is 4x? And yes, my burner can burn any type of disc so i know thats not the problem. In the manual it said that reccommended media for DVD-r's is: 4x/2x, 4.7 GB for general). I thought this should work?
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1. March 2005 @ 17:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Its not the speed of the media that is the problem it is the brand... What is the speed of your drive? Drive specs?

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I ran NeroInfo Tool:

write speeds: 4x, 8x, 16x

where do i find the drive specs?
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I dont see a x16 speed DVD writer on TDK's website the highest they have there is X12??



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i'm just telling u what NeroInfo Tool told me. The model is a TDK 440n DVD+/-R (and DVD+/-RW, CD-R, CD-RW, etc.) I have a TDK burner. Shouldn't I be able to burn a DVD with a TDK 2x or 4x DVD-R?
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Problem is TDK doesnt list there drives by model number only burning speed?? Yes you should be able to burn at just about any speed under your max speed. There is a firmware update for the x12 speed. I think you need to email TDK and ask them about that particular drive and see if there is a firmware update for it as this could help your drive be able to recognize more media. Again it isn't the speed of the DVD's that is the problem it is the Brand of media you are using isn't compatable with your writer.



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2. March 2005 @ 08:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yeah. i mean, i have a TDK burner which is why i was wondering why the burner wouldn't just burn the DVD's. i guess i'm going to call TDK.
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Hey i had my Sony DRU710A running in PIO mode adnd thhus the computer was working at a crawl!! i think it was due to the PIO mode since it uses the CPU for processing more...cuz it would really lag as if its running something in HIGH priority...but anyway

I took the advice here by trying to uninstall my secondary IDE chanenl and restarting so it would reinstall with DMA setup, but now the secondary IDE wont install its drivers...and thus my burner wont detect!...

i have a 2Ghz, 512DDR, 80gb w/ 50 free HD,
Primary IDE:
masteR: samsung HD
slave: LG dvd-rom
Secondary IDE:
Master: SOny-DVD-RW

i had initially had everything running well, then windows messed up i formatted and then windows woudlnt detect my drive so i rolled back the driver it worked but it was running SO SO SO SLOW [assuming cuz if PIO mode after the format]
i noticed i was missing ASPI drivers but i installed them...that didnt help much, thats when i read this forum and the PIO/DMA idea...but now im stuck with no IDE...

i tried windows update...wont update...tried reinstalling my chipset drivers...nothing

i got a intel 845BG mobo
im considering moving the Sony to the LGs spot untill i fix the secondary IDE as a slave cuz that IDE channel seems to run DMA apparently according to my Nero INfo tool

how do i fix my ide[without formatting which i know will fix it]?
how come i didnt have aspi drivers?
how do i switch normally to DMA without the uninstall IDE?

Help would be greatly appreciated
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13. March 2005 @ 01:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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how do i switch normally to DMA without the uninstall IDE?
did you try just selecting it first

you just select it in the drop down window and reboot

you dont always have to un-install the secondary IDE channel to enable DMA mode
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Primary IDE:
masteR: samsung HD
slave: LG dvd-rom
are you running the dvd rom drive off the primary channel?
or is that a mis-quote?




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13. March 2005 @ 04:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hey guys can some one give me an idea why i cant burn with dvd burner this is the log
it is a benq 8x4x12 with nero 6 and any thing i try movies data 10mb to 4.5 gb will not burn thx
kev
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Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: File 'Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=4.71 (0002), size=45056 bytes, created 7/17/2002 9:20:56 AM
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.68, size=160016 bytes, created 7/28/2004 4:51:12 PM
Nero version: 6.6.0.0 (Nero Express)
Recorder: <ATAPI DVD DUAL 8X4X12> Version: B3C7 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.6.0.0
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1
Drive buffer : 8192kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
CD-ROM: <Generic STEALTH DVD >Version: - HA 2 TA 0 - 6.6.0.0
Adapter driver: <st3wolf> HA 2

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : WDC WD800JB-00FMA0 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : ATAPI DVD DUAL 8X4X12 atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8525B atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : Generic STEALTH DVD st3wolf Port 2 ID 0 DMA: Off

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
ATAPI DVD DUAL 8X4X12 D: CDRom4
HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8525B E: CDRom6
Generic STEALTH DVD F: CDRom2
=======================

AutoRun : 0
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 74448896 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 511MB (523760kB)
Free physical memory: 250MB (256364kB)
Memory in use : 51 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Static Write Speed Table: 0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

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ISO compilation
9:03:19 AM #1 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6170
Iso document burn settings
------------------------------------------
Determine maximum speed : FALSE
Simulate : FALSE
Write : TRUE
Finalize CD : TRUE
Multisession : FALSE
Burning mode : DAO
Mode : 1
ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
Character set : ISO 9660
Joliet : TRUE
Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
Allow more than 255 characters in path : TRUE
Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

9:03:20 AM #2 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127
Reader running

9:03:20 AM #3 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122
Writer ATAPI DVD DUAL 8X4X12 running

9:03:20 AM #4 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3286
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

9:03:20 AM #5 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3119
Turn on Disc-at-once, using DVD media

9:03:20 AM #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 256
Last possible write address on media: 2297887 (510:38.37, 4488MB)
Last address to be written: 1706511 (379:13.36, 3333MB)

9:03:20 AM #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 268
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

9:03:20 AM #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2310
Recorder: ATAPI DVD DUAL 8X4X12, Media type: DVD-R
Disc Manufacturer: ONIDTE - CH
Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193

9:03:20 AM #9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 430
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================

9:03:20 AM #10 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 844
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 1706512 (1706512) = #1706512/379:13.37
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 1706512 blocks [ATAPI DVD DUAL 8X4X12]
--------------------------------------------------------------

9:03:20 AM #11 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1045
Prepare recorder [ATAPI DVD DUAL 8X4X12] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 3494936576, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_RecDep_|_CtrlAdr_
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41
1706512 | lead-out | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41

9:03:20 AM #12 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1861
Caching of files started

9:03:20 AM #13 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4135
Cache writing successful.

9:03:20 AM #14 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1861
Caching of files completed

9:03:20 AM #15 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1861
Burn process started at 2.4x (3,324 KB/s)

9:03:20 AM #16 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2471
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

9:03:20 AM #17 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1719
Set remaining time: 17:45,052 (1065052ms) -> OK

9:03:20 AM #18 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1955
Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

9:03:20 AM #19 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 20542
Set BUFE: Seamless Link -> ON

9:03:20 AM #20 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2096
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

9:03:20 AM #21 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8259
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: ? (12), Part Version: 11
Disc Size: ? mm, Maximum Rate: ? Mbps (B h)
Number of Layers: 4, Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP), Layer Type: ?
Linear Density: ? um/bit, Track Density: ? um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 0 h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

9:04:27 AM #22 SCSI -1135 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1429
SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x05FF0000
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)
Sense Code: 0x0C
Sense Qual: 0x00
CDB Data: 0x2A 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x02 0x40 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x12
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0C 0x00

9:04:27 AM #23 CDR -1135 File Writer.cpp, Line 311
Write error

9:04:27 AM #24 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 229
all writers idle, stopping conversion

9:04:27 AM #25 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 223
conversion idle, stopping reader

9:04:27 AM #26 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2338
EndDAO: Last written address was 575

9:04:27 AM #27 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1719
Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK

9:04:27 AM #28 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1719
Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK

9:04:27 AM #29 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1861
Burn process failed at 2.4x (3,324 KB/s)


Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\ASPI32.SYS': Ver=4.71 (0002), size=16877 bytes, created 7/17/2002 8:53:02 AM
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920), size=86912 bytes, created 8/29/2002 1:27:50 AM (Adapter driver for rec)
File 'Drivers\st3wolf.sys': Ver=3.33.0.0, size=99360 bytes, created 4/27/2003 11:43:06 AM (Adapter driver for src)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

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kevblack,
try some different media Those cheap ones you are using are more than likely the problem.


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Also, edit your Nero Serial Numbers from your post!
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13. March 2005 @ 07:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i was running my LG DVD-ROM off the primary IDE channel, it isnt using DMA either, but i switched it lastnight so now

Primary:
Samsung HD [master]
Sony DVD-RW [slave]
Secondary: [this channel wont install, so LG doesnt work]
LG DVD-ROM [master]

and i did try selecting DMA and restarting, no dice.

id like to set the sony to DMA still
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Primary:
Samsung HD [master]
Sony DVD-RW [slave]
Secondary: [this channel wont install, so LG doesnt work]
LG DVD-ROM [master]
why is your sony not on the secondary ide channel?

i know you can put it on the primary,but the norm is secondary



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13. March 2005 @ 08:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
it was, i moved it to primary untill i can get the secondary to work at the moment it is uninstalled cuz the drivers wont install
still gives me "problem isntalling your device"[second IDE] if i do it manually says "these drivers arent for your platform" and wont install

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13. March 2005 @ 12:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok thx for the input will try funny that i did 6 or 7 when i first got it but will try new one and not cheap one thx again
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13. March 2005 @ 13:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
arg, i just tried burning a DVD and i got an error, first coaster...using DVD Shrink..which used Nero to make the actual cd aaaaaargggg

i really need to fix this burning!

how will i switch DMA and activate second ide
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Try this it involves hacking the registry, but it has been know to work,

CD-ROM and DVD-ROM drives can revert to using PIO mode, despite being set to use "DMA if Available." Here's how to make Windows XP redetect the DMA capabilities of the drives.

This behaviour occurs with the following conditions:

-Windows XP is the operating system (should be same for 2K)
-A CD-ROM or DVD-ROM drive, which is known to support DMA mode now works only in PIO mode.
-The drive controller is set to use "DMA if available" but reports to be only in PIO mode.

Following is the mechanism that has worked for me, please try it at your own risk, it involves hacking the registry:

1. Open RegEdit
2. Find the following KEY:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\ Class\{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}\000x
3. The last four digits will be 0000, 0001, 0002, 0003, and so on.
4. Under each key, delete all occurences of the following values:
MasterIdDataChecksum
SlaveIdDataChecksum
5. Reboot the computer. Windows will now redetect DMA settings.




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wikky1
If you have everything working and you have the fixed master/slave jumpers set on the optical drives, don't worry about it. However, from the factory, Dell has their systems set up computer select. So, the determination of master and slave depends on where the drive is located on the cable. Master at the end and slave in the middle.

icevenom
In control Panel with the IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers expanded, the Secondary IDE Channel Properties window should be opened. Under the General tab, what does it say about Device status and Device usage? What happened or what did you find when you used the Troubleshoot option? The DMA settings are important, but if the PC doesn't recognize the IDE channel, then it doesn't matter. Hopefully BB's hack will get the channel recognized.

As a side note on resetting DMA, I've found that one can sometimes uninstall the optical drive under DVD/CD-ROM drives in Device Manager and the DMA will reset when the PC is rebooted and the drive is recognized. I now try that before uninstalling the IDE channel. Also, the command is uninstall, not disable (just in case anyone has a question there).


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13. March 2005 @ 17:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
brobear,

As of right now, my burner is master and my dvd-rom is slave. I have successfully burned with DVD+R's (Imation, Memorex) but am yet to burn any DVD-R's (TDK). The burn process has failed on the TDK DVD-R's. My burner is supposed to be able to burn both, so I really don't understand what the problem is and why it won't just burn on TDK brand discs.
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Still sounds like a firmware issue to me....



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The drivers for this device are not installed. (Code 28)

To reinstall the drivers for this device, click Reinstall Driver.

ill try the reg hack if that will help get the channel back, then i can sort out DMA crap...
isnt that hack just for redetecting DMA?

now for some reason my ATA controller is missing its driver i just installed sp1, meybe after restart itll be back, ill post report
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BBMAYO,

1. How can I solve the "firmware" issue?
2. Maybe you can check for me or show me how to check the latest firmware version. I know for a fact that there is a label on my DVD that says 1.0c for my Indi TDK 440n burner. Is this the latest version or is there a way to check for a later version?
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http://www.tdk.com/support/dvdburners/indidvd4xmultisup.html
TDK support is listing 1.0C as the latest firmware upgrade. I have to go with BB though, it still sounds like a firmware problem. Since it doesn't hurt to flash the drive with the same firmware, I'd do it again manually; just in case someone put a sticker on and the drive doesn't actually have the firmware loaded correctly for some reason. All the instructions for the flash and the download can be found at the link above. If it isn't something to do with the firmware, I'd start to suspect a flaw in the burner.

Since it won't burn the TDK brand -R media, have you tried any other brands of -R? Buy a small pack of Verbatim or Sony and give them a try, most shops carry those. It won't be a waste, you'll be able to use them when you get your problem solved. This little test is just to see if it's a particular disc the drive doesn't like.

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