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Optimal IDE Arrangement - 2 HDD, DVD-Rom & DVD-RW
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9. March 2005 @ 08:04 |
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Just be aware that when they say x16 speed that is the maximum and not the average. Drives tend to read or write faster at the begining because it is reading the disc from the inside to the outer edge where it will slow down, but not as drastically as you have stated Nytvd. Especially with the drive you have that is a good drive so something is definatley a miss with your set up. The 80 wire IDE cables will deffinatley help, and making sure you are running in DMA mode. :-)
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9. March 2005 @ 09:08 |
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hi
i know pioneer 109 is rip locked at 1/2x but burning like you say BB should be faster!
there is a firmware hack but its still not down to one app / firmware install...
it needs quite abit of work but people are doing it!
Nothing here to see, move along folks.
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9. March 2005 @ 09:31 |
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Your right Rotary but Nytvd was talking about burning not ripping, and x1 is just bad!!!
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nytvd
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9. March 2005 @ 10:29 |
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thanks for the feedback, yes i am talking about burning and as i said it starts at x6 and slows after 5 seconds to x1 (very painful to watch)...
this is strange because i have the NEC burner that came with the dell that burns great at x2.4 which is the max for that burner and this new DVR 109 cannot sustain past x1. i just got a rounded 80 wire cable and will try it tonight as well as check the DMA/PIO settings.if this does not work it is going back to newegg, can't keep making coasters as i troubleshoot this...
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9. March 2005 @ 10:37 |
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nytvd
Remove the burner from Device manager before you shut down to change over the cable, this way when you boot back up with the new cable connected to your burner, Windows will pick it up and set the proper DMA for you. Just a bit cleaner and easier that way.
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9. March 2005 @ 10:47 |
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hi there
hey there scubabud, i see you are O/Cing i used to watercool my rig....
yes this pioneer 109 i was going to buy one but i am slipping towards plextor at present....
from what i have been reading...
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the asus 1608p is a pioneer insides!
http://forum.rpc1.org/viewtopic.php?t=33109
Nothing here to see, move along folks.
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9. March 2005 @ 11:02 |
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Hey Rotary :)
I thought you have like a zillion burners already! <G>
My new toy's are dual LCD monitors. :)
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The older one, Asus DRW-1604P has NEC chips inside.
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nytvd
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9. March 2005 @ 16:09 |
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replaced 40 wire cable with 80 and no change still at x1.
took both dvd writers out , saw that the old NEC had the jumper on csel, changed that to slave and made DVR109 to master...that made the DVR 109 burn at x2 which is better but still not what i want... at this point i'm thinking the 109 is just a bad one.
my IDE drivers are dated 7/1/2001 does that make a difference? and they are all set to DMA...
removed and reinstalled drive and IDE drivers, no change.
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9. March 2005 @ 16:41 |
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my IDE drivers are dated 7/1/2001 does that make a difference?
They should be correct and are not the problem. The question should be what media are you using now? Brand, +/- and speed?
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nytvd
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9. March 2005 @ 17:00 |
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using TDK DVD+R x8 and have burned a lot of those on my NEC that came with my dell. this NEC only does x2.4 but does a great job on each and every disc. got the Pioneer dvr 109 with dreams of burning 3 times as fast or better but as you see it ain't workin' out!
i did see some threads on this and others complaining of same issues i have. and some are saying they have no problems...
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ScubaBud
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9. March 2005 @ 17:08 |
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I would try other media before you pull anymore hair out, just to be sure it isn't that. You have everything else setup properly now so give it a try with quality media, I mean real quality media.
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nytvd
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9. March 2005 @ 17:18 |
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please, what do you suggest? (you think the TDK's are a disservice to the pioneer dvr 109?)
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nytvd
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9. March 2005 @ 17:24 |
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are the maxells good? should i look at the DVD-R?
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9. March 2005 @ 17:28 |
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Yes Maxell is good media and I would stay with -r media with pioneers.
I would use +r media with your NEC since it is capable of booktyping +r media dvd-rom (the most compatable format). The pioneer can not do this.
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ScubaBud
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9. March 2005 @ 17:28 |
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Every burner likes something different when it comes to basic media. And even some name brands don't fair well with them. Then again, there is other media that always seems to work well no matter what burner they are in. TY's are considered to be god's word here on aD.
I have had perfect luck with my Sony Media - or +. If you have a Staples near you, they have Sony DVD-R 8x or Sony DVD+R 8x for $9.94 for 25 pieces or 40 cents a piece. I just had to try burns at 16x, just to see how they faired and they were flawless even at those speeds. My burns are normally at 8x though.
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nytvd
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9. March 2005 @ 17:40 |
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my old NEC only does +r +rw.
the 109 is supposed to do all the +'s and -'s but so far it is not adding up to much....
i will pick up some maxell and sony and continue this campaign... ;-)
thanks for the ongoing support
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nytvd
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9. March 2005 @ 17:54 |
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duh on me. i just did some searching and found out that pioneer is very much in the - camp when it comes to the - vs. + debacle... so it would make sense that they are somewhat partial to the DVD-R discs...
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9. March 2005 @ 17:56 |
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exactly
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nytvd
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10. March 2005 @ 10:41 |
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picked up some maxell dvd-r x8 will try tonight.
if some one KNOWS that these won't work let me know so i don't open package needlessly...
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nytvd
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11. March 2005 @ 10:00 |
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tried burning mpeg file on pc to 109 drive and it did kick up to x5 and x6 on the maxell -r x8.
then i tried encoding and burning as i usualy do and it slowed back down to x2 again on the burn. then the 109 drive would not play the movie that it just burned...
that's it, closed down the clinic and packed up the 109 to send back to newegg. it was probably just bad luck that i got a defective one...also it made a TON of noise compared to my old NEC 1100A and i don't know why - the pio 109 is supposed to be quiet (maybe another sign that something with it was wrong)
anyway, ordered a new NEC 3520 and hope it will be easier...
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11. March 2005 @ 10:13 |
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Good luck :)
My Asus DRW-1604P has an NEC 3520 chip inside it. It loves Sony SONY08D1 Media DVD-R 8X with burn speeds up to 16X. Not that I am recommending that speed to burn, just stating a fact.
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nytvd
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15. March 2005 @ 17:37 |
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thanks.
got the NEC 3520 today.
it works as advertised. burning everything and fast.
put the maxell -r and it burned as fast as 14-15 on the 16 setting. will use lower settings as norm (do i have to?...)
also this nec is very quiet, like my older nec 1100a.
so , i am happy of course.
the pio 109 that i had to return must have been a bum one, it happens.
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ScubaBud
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15. March 2005 @ 18:00 |
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nytvd
Good luck and burns with yours :)
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15. March 2005 @ 18:02 |
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I think you will like the NEC better anyway since it will booktype dvd+r to dvd-rom if so desired.
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