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truthmic
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8. March 2005 @ 05:59 |
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I use dvd decrypter to copy the dvd to my hard drive and dvd shrink to get it to the correct size. I then use dvd decrypter, nero or Tmpc (or somethng to that effect) to burn to dvd+r. I have no trouble with the beginning steps but when I try to burn to DVD I receive write errors from all 3 programs. This doesn't happen all the time just some of the time! If I try numerous times the DVD will sometimes work? A buddy of mine uses the same technic and hasn't had a problem yet! Am I doing something small incorrectly that I can't catch? Can it be a faulty dvd disk drive (I have a Samsung 16x dual layer writer)? Help!
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8. March 2005 @ 06:07 |
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The more important question would be what is the brand of media you are using?
Have you updated your firmware for your drive?
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truthmic
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8. March 2005 @ 06:07 |
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I have been using 8x media if that makes a difference. I have also ben trying it with both iso and hard copy files and it works with one or the other sometimes and sometimes neither. Like I said if I try 10 or more times (re decrypting, re shrinking and so on) I can make it work. I have been averaging 5 wasted disks per 25. This seems to be high when I have a guy who hasn't had a single issue! Anyway write after it writes the lead in at 16 sectors read is normally when I start getting the write errors.
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8. March 2005 @ 06:15 |
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Still didnt answer the questions..
What brand of media? not speed
have you tried updating your firmware for your drive?
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truthmic
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8. March 2005 @ 06:52 |
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I have just switched to TBK 8x. I'm not sure what or how to update my firmware? I'm not really sure what that is (thus I'm in the newbie section)
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truthmic
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8. March 2005 @ 06:53 |
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I was using HP dvd-r 8x. I just switched to the tbk
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8. March 2005 @ 07:10 |
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Download a program called DVD identifier. Run that on the HP disks you were using. That will tell the people here more. Just because they're HP disks doesn't mean they're quality. I used HP dvd+r without any issues. I never tried the dvd-r disks. You might also think about switching to dvd+r.
I like those Verbatim digital movie disks....the ones that look like movie reels.
Thumb through the dvd media forum on this site and see all the discussions on brands. You may not know it. I didn't until I did some research and ran that program I listed above, but the brand of media you're using may use 2,3,even up to 10 different manufacturers. For instance, I bought 3 packs of Memorex. Two packs were made by Ritek, which is supposed to be a decent quality company. The last pack (which I returned) was made by a company called Moser Baer. From what I read, this company produces only crap that should go to the dump.
Try the program. There could lie your answer!
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8. March 2005 @ 07:18 |
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You do mean TDK? From my experience with TDK bought from Costco, +r's, manufacture went from Ricoh to CMC. I returned mine, didn't even attempt to burn.
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8. March 2005 @ 07:19 |
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Also to make your DVD writer compatable with more DVD media you should update your firmware. You can go the manufacturer's website and look under downloads for firmware and select your drives model number. Then just download the correct firmware and install it.
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truthmic
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8. March 2005 @ 07:24 |
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Actually the HP was the +r. I am out of those and now have the tdk. I will run the program on those! My PAL uses the same media and never has had a problem? BBMayo mentions updating my firmware but I have not a clue what that means? Do you think there is no possibility of a bad disk drive because it works sometimes? It's frustrating someone uses the same media and the same programs and burns with ease!
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truthmic
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8. March 2005 @ 07:26 |
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That answers my firmware question! Thanks. I will try these things and research some good media and hopefully that helps! I just think maybe I'm doing somethingwrong on my end but it works sometimes which leads me to believe it's not me. The bad disk drive concerns me as well but again it works sometimes!
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sadsac
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8. March 2005 @ 07:28 |
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Some dvd burners are very finiky about the media you use. You might want to check the compatibility. I'm not sure the website, but there's one that lists your burner and recommended media. Also, what we're saying is that your HP media may be manufactured by a different company than your bud's HP media.
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truthmic
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8. March 2005 @ 07:31 |
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I never realized how the media could affect the burns. If anyone knows that compadibility website please post it here! Does everyone prefer using the ISO files or the hard copy files? Another person giving me advice says he doesn't use the ISO files but the other?
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8. March 2005 @ 07:33 |
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truthmic
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8. March 2005 @ 07:47 |
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Everyone agrres my actual writer is fine. It's my choice in media that is wrong? That's actually refreshing because I didn't want to deal with returning the writer!
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sadsac
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8. March 2005 @ 08:07 |
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That wasn't the exact link I was thinking of. There's a link on this site that I found a while back that lists burners and recommended media by the manufacturer. I can't seem to find it.
And there's no guarantee it's not your burner. The media is the first thing you should check. Download the dvd identifier program and let us know what those HP disks code out as.
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sadsac
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8. March 2005 @ 08:08 |
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Oh. And you can check cdrinfo.com for a firmware upgrade.
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8. March 2005 @ 08:15 |
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They best for media compatability is to go to the actuall manufacturers web site as they have already did extensive testing with the media for their product. :-)
@truthmic,
Check out my guides (link in sig) those should help you out a lot...
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truthmic
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8. March 2005 @ 08:15 |
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Do you guys prefer burning iso fives or the video files and why?
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truthmic
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8. March 2005 @ 08:19 |
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Is there any way to check and see if its my burner?
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8. March 2005 @ 08:23 |
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It really dosen't matter which way you do it. The outcome in the end will be the same as far as quality goes. It is just a prefference thing. If you only want to back up the movie with out extras then there would be no reason to rip a movie in ISO when all you need is to rip the main movie with Decrypter this would be faster than ripping the whole DVD as an ISO when you really don't need all that extra stuff. If you plan on backing up the whole disk then a lot of people like the simplicity of only dealing with one file instead of several (just neater). Again check out my site for some guides on backing up your DVD movies and it will help you understand a little better.. :-)
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truthmic
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8. March 2005 @ 08:33 |
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Your quick responses are really helpful. This is a great site for help. I have been checking out your site and will use the guides to try burning again. Is there a way to see if my burner is faulty? I'm sure it's me or the media but I don't want to risk my guarantee by waiting to long.
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8. March 2005 @ 08:36 |
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If you use the first guide at my site and still have problems then there may be a problem. That first guide is almost always a sure fire way to back up your DVD so lets give that a try and see what happens..
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sadsac
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8. March 2005 @ 10:04 |
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If you're only using DVD shrink and/or DVD decrypter, it can't be YOU doing something wrong. It's one of a few things.....
Your burner
Your media
Your computer
Your DVD player
Software conflict
What are the specs on your computer? If you're running an old system with Windows 98 and a 400 speed processor for instance, and trying to burn with a 16x DVD burner......you've got problems!!!
Also, even if you have a superfast computer, the encoding and burning, etc. take up bookoo processor resources. If you're trying to encode and burn a disk while playing Leizure Suit Larry gets Laid, then you've got problems there also.
If you have an old (and sometimes new) dvd player, it may not be wholly compatible with recordable dvd media. By backing up a disk, from what I've read, you're not really making a 1:1 copy. The lead-ins and lead-outs are written differently because the original disk is pressed, not burned. You may want to check that website that bbmayo posted (videohelp.com) for media that is best compatible with your player. I didn't see whether you're burning -r or +r media. Some players are more compatible with one or the other.
You also need to check the Samsung website for media compatibility with your burner. And be sure there's no firmware update. I was leery of updating firmware at first, because what you're doing in essence, is reprogramming your dvd burner's computer. Chip(s) in the burner tell it how and where to put data. It's just like installing new drivers for any hardware on your system. They need to be updated in order to be compatible with new software and hardware.
You could also try re-installing all the burning software on your system. Be sure to uninstall prior to installing again. Also, some burning packs cause conflicts. For instance, if you have Nero as well as other dvd/cd burning software installed, one or the other may be running in the background, causing a conflict with the pack you're burning your dvd's with. Some .dll's from one software pack may also conflict with .dll's on other software packs. I'd try to uninstall any other burning software except what you're going to use all the time. For me, it's Nero. For you, it might be Alcohol 120%, or some other one that you prefer.
So do some checking on your system. You might have some burning software that was installed when you got your computer that you don't realize is there.
Also, check the manufacturer of the media you're using. Check the digitalfaq.com website for media recommendations. I think you can get there directly by going to www.nomorecoasters.com. There, you can see that manufacturers such as Optodisk and CMC are garbage media, while MCC and Yuden are thought of as first class media.
I'm by no means an expert, but these are just some suggestions I have. Others on here are probably MUCH more knowledgeable than me, so they may be able to help when you find out some additional info to post.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 8. March 2005 @ 10:06
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