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Is there a quicker way to convert .avi to dvd format
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robc11
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9. March 2005 @ 15:12 |
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I was just wondering whether if there is a quicker way to convert .avi to dvd format coz i cant be arsed waitin for a full day nearly for files to convert. Is there ant software what coverts from .avi to .mpeg and then to dvd in one.
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Gringle
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9. March 2005 @ 22:47 |
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check out VSO DivxToDVD
gringle
El gringle..
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andmerr
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9. March 2005 @ 23:12 |
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jlrm365
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10. March 2005 @ 04:56 |
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An amazing application - even more so for being free. Grab it now, because the next edition will be even better... but cost you!
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k0k0m0
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10. March 2005 @ 05:18 |
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Just for comparison purposes only...
Using TMPGEnc, the project took 9 hours
Using DivX2DVD only took 2 hours...
Got to see the results though.. but you get a difference at speed. And it's dumb easy to use!
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andmerr
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10. March 2005 @ 08:42 |
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Just for comparison purposes only...
Using TMPGEnc, the project took 9 hours
Using DivX2DVD only took 2 hours...
USING avi2meg by cucusofts for avi/divx/xvid
the time frame is any where between 2hrs and 18 hrs per 700meg file.However with divx to dvd the time frame depends on the info.THE shortest i have got per 700meg is 43 minutes and the longest so far is an hour.
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10. March 2005 @ 09:13 |
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the time frame is any where between 2hrs and 18 hrs per 700meg file
This means absolutely nothing.
The running time of the video, and the bitrate/aspect you are encoding TO are what's important.
I could have a 700 meg file that is encoded with Picvideo mjpeg, and it will run about 10 minutes. The same file encoded Divx, could run 2 hours (or more).
Tmpgenc (or any other encoder) will encode the first one much faster than the second one, all because of it's running time.
BTW, Mainconcept, Canopus Procoder, and CCE are all at least 5 times faster than a 2 pass TMPGEnc, or cucusoft.
VSO Divx to dvd may work, but it has NO options at all, so you have no control over the finished product.
Take a 16:9 widescreen AVI, and try it.
Black holes are where God divided by zero...
Cheers, Jim
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jlrm365
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10. March 2005 @ 09:29 |
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"This means absolutely nothing"
If that were true, it would not exist.
It does.
It does mean something.
What it means is that such software does a reasonable to excellent job, allowing a user to leave and do other things.
It's the product of the process I enjoy, not the process itself.
Feel free to spend time manually authoring, but I prefer to fire, forget and go do something more interesting.
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SUKIE
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10. March 2005 @ 11:25 |
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winavi does the job fine for me, converting a 2 hour divx film to dvd VOB in 45 mins.
and preserving the original quality/bitrate.
nice
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jlrm365
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10. March 2005 @ 11:35 |
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Don't think I've used it. Thanks for the heads up!
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10. March 2005 @ 12:00 |
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Sorry, not trying to be rude, just pointing out stuff, so people can learn.
The part that means nothing is "700 megs".
Because AVI is just a container, the container happens to be 700 megs, says nothing about what's inside it.
You have a bucket (the avi) with a lid on it.
Inside that bucket could be 10 gallons of water, which would weigh 100 lbs.
You could also have a small block of gold instead of water. It too would weigh 100 lbs.
You don't know until you take the lid off, which you have.
The water is an analogy for an mjpeg compressed AVI.
The gold is an analogy for a divx compressed AVI.
The bucket is the same size (700 megs), but what's inside it, are completely different sizes (running times).
Gspot will tell you "what's in the bucket", and from THAT information, one can then determine the best way to deal with it.
Yes, applications such as VSO Divx to dvd, TheFilmMachine, SVCD2DVD, DIKO, WinAVI etc., all have their place, and I use them sometimes too, but for video that's important, such as Home video of the kids growing up, or a family reunion, stuff you can't get any more, on those rotting VHS or Hi-8 tapes, deserves a lot better than VSO if you want to preserve it properly.
In my opinion, if you want a good, fast dvd, from just about any source, WinAVI video converter is worth the money. It does exactly as advertised (except for it's buggy batch mode), and gives you just enough flexibility with the settings to get the desired result. VSO does not.
Black holes are where God divided by zero...
Cheers, Jim
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jlrm365
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10. March 2005 @ 14:24 |
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"so people can learn"
In order to teach you must, amongst other things, be clear.
Such an end being necessary... "Sorry, not trying to be rude"... [but] you can take the buckets and water elsewhere.
"for video that's important, such as"
Have you seen the thread's title?
It is ".AVI to dvd format"... not... "rotting VHS or Hi-8 tapes to DVD format".
"a quicker way to convert"
Your multi-stage process cannot be but, for the purposes of discussion and to give you a boost, let's assume identical PCs and AVI files.
Pieces of software mentioned in afterdawn's conversion guide
(http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/convert_avi_to_dvd.cfm): 4
Pieces of software mentioned in videohelp's conversion guide
(http://www.videohelp.com/forum/userguides/186739.php): 5
Pieces of software mentioned in afterdawn's conversion guide
(http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/vso_divxtodvd_guide.cfm): 1
No contest.
Only at DivxToDVD's burn stage could be a delay (of seconds). Here are the options:
Option 1:
You can choose to leave the necessary files on your hard drive and burn them with Nero. It does not take long but is one more step in the process, for which you must be present.
Option 2a (CopyToDVD unregistered):
You need to be present also but click once, to activate the burn process!
Option 2b (CopyToDVD registered (EUR 34.99 / USD 39.99 - cheap!)):
DivxToDVD automatically picks up the CopyToDVD process and begins the burn!
From afterdawn's own review
(http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/video_encoders/vso_divxtodvd.cfm):
"Program's encoding engine is pretty fast and produces good-quality results(of course it can't be compared to multipass encoding with CCE, but the EASINESS and the SPEED of the software makes it up), considering that the source material is typically already heavily compressed with lossy encoding methods."
It seems reading titles causes a problem, so how about posts? From robc11's first:
"Is there ant software what coverts from .AVI to .mpeg and then to dvd in one"
Having registered CopyToDVD and ticked DivxToDVD's "Burn with CopyToDVD" interaction is down to one piece of software!
"i cant be arsed waitin for a full day nearly for files to convert."
Four clicks... less than four seconds... and VSO's DivxToDVD / CopyToDVD (registered) process... begins!
If a computer was set to shutdown upon the burn's completion, there would be even less to worry about!
Your suggestions require more time! Your suggestions require more attention!
robc11 and others do not want a multi-stage process! He and I would like "good-quality results" and more free time!
Answering your multi-stage suggestions and bizarre issues with VSO's DivxToDVD... is a NO!
Answering robc11's initial post is... a resounding VSO YES!
Let's leave the final thoughts to afterdawn:
"but the EASINESS and the SPEED of the software makes it up"
"But as a summary, an EXCELLENT TOOL for quick DVD creation and I can see it become quite popular for converting digital camcorder material into DVDR format as well."
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Gringle
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10. March 2005 @ 15:14 |
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Well jlrm double posted or not, your reply was incisive.
The question; was about the, arsing time, and my reply was equally flippant.
I just hope I don't get on your Christmas hate mail list..LOLOLLOL
gringle. :)
El gringle..
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10. March 2005 @ 15:24 |
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"so people can learn"
In order to teach you must, amongst other things, be clear.
Let me make myself clear.
You obviously didn't read this part:
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Yes, applications such as VSO Divx to dvd, TheFilmMachine, SVCD2DVD, DIKO, WinAVI etc., all have their place, and I use them sometimes too, but for video that's important, such as Home video of the kids growing up, or a family reunion, stuff you can't get any more, on those rotting VHS or Hi-8 tapes, deserves a lot better than VSO if you want to preserve it properly.
In my opinion, if you want a good, fast dvd, from just about any source, WinAVI video converter is worth the money. It does exactly as advertised (except for it's buggy batch mode), and gives you just enough flexibility with the settings to get the desired result. VSO does not.
A 700 meg Divx will be about 2 hours.
A 700 meg mjpeg will be about 10 minutes.
The 10 minute mjpeg AVI will encode in TMPGEnc in about 20 minutes.
The 2 hour Divx will encode in TMPGEnc in about 10 hours.
Black holes are where God divided by zero...
Cheers, Jim
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jlrm365
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10. March 2005 @ 15:25 |
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As I have said in another post. Some people will persists in chopping down trees with axes when there's a chainsaw handy.
You're on the good list, for being the one to post and tell me about VSO.
The next version looks amazing!
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jlrm365
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10. March 2005 @ 16:08 |
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"Let me make myself clear"
Please do!
"You obviously didn't read this part"
Check this out:
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=pot%20calling%20the%20kettle%20black%2C%20the
"A 700 meg Divx will be about 2 hours.
A 700 meg mjpeg will be about 10 minutes"
Complete...
utter...
IRRELEVANCE!
What part of robc11's post did you not read / understand?
Imagine two equal systems and two equal AVI files.
Your process will take significantly longer than that of VSO's DivxToDVD!
It is certain to be so, by virtue of multiple stages and necessary interaction!
VSO's DivxToDVD automates the stages and, after the initial clicks, requires no presence!
How gracious of you to hang your case... again:
1) "Yes, applications such as VSO Divx to dvd... all have their place"
Indeed... such as in this thread - "software what coverts from .AVI to .mpeg and then to dvd in one"!
2) "on those rotting VHS or Hi-8 tapes"
Irrelevant, in the context of this thread - "convert .AVI to dvd"!
3) "VSO does not"
It does! It provides the answer your process cannot!
robc11 wants one application to take care of everything!
A multi-stage process, being multi-stage, cannot possibly be the answer!
How much clearer does it have to become?
Please do feel free to discuss the merits of WinAVI, but stop with the dead ends!
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10. March 2005 @ 16:14 |
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WTF has my process got to do with this conversation?
I was discussing why 700 megs doesn't mean much when referring to avi's.
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3) "VSO does not"
It does! It provides the answer your process cannot!
Taken out of context, you're absolutely correct!
Now can we get back on topic please?
Black holes are where God divided by zero...
Cheers, Jim
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andmerr
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10. March 2005 @ 20:07 |
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@ rebootjim : Quote:
Sorry, not trying to be rude, just pointing out stuff, so people can learn
well your not succeeding very well,and i posted this while iwas 1/2 a sleep and about to go to work
Lets put it in perspective:
A 700meg AVI : pal: conversion time with cucsofts avi2mpeg anywhere between 2 and 18 hours with my AMD 2600+.(cucsoft also does the sound in separate parts before it re muxs it.)
tHE SAME FILE WITH divx to dvd : 1 hour.
dOES that make it clearer for you
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jlrm365
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11. March 2005 @ 01:35 |
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rebootjim
A thread's context is established within it's title and refined by it's first post!
"700 megs doesn't mean much when referring to avi's"
See it as a neutral benchmark, with which to compare one process to another (see earlier posts).
"Taken out of context, you're absolutely correct"
Correct I am, in the context of this thread!
"Now can we get back on topic please?"
You are the one not to have been!
"WTF has my process got to do with this conversation?"
You cannot be serious!
Having been repeated several times, it has to be clear that process has EVERYTHING to do with this discussion!
TITLE:
"a quicker way to convert .avi...".
It takes less than four clicks / five seconds of attendance time, using VSO's "DivxToDVD", to transform an avi into a DVD!
FIRST POST:
"...to dvd in one"
ONE!
Having registered CopyToDVD and ticked DivxToDVD's "Burn with CopyToDVD" interaction is down to one piece of software!
Your process does have it's merits but it requires attendance at several stages!
It cannot be faster in personal time!
As a result, it does not / cannot belong in this thread as an answer to robc11's initial concerns!
He does not want to waste time on your process!
VSO's DivxToDVD / CopyToDVD (registered) combination answers his questions and is exactly what robc11 asked for!
andmerr
"well your not succeeding very well"
You are being gracious!
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k0k0m0
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11. March 2005 @ 04:28 |
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May I post my "very first experience converting Avi to DVD???
Firstly I followed the guide which appears here in afterdawn that involves using several tools such as VirtualDub, TMPGEnc and IFOEdit.
My first approach was a 50 hour project in TMPG and I aborted it. I changed some values and shortened it to an overnight experience. But my audio was all messed up and had to use BeSweet. In spite of all these tools, the result is no good and audio still sucks.
But I used DivXtoDVD and in 2 hours I had all the files ready and 100% playable (tested it on PowerDVD). The only thing I am still trying to find out is how to add subtitles, but apart from that I will definitely stay along with this software. It's easier and in my case results were far much better.
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jlrm365
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11. March 2005 @ 05:13 |
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11. March 2005 @ 06:17 |
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A 700meg AVI : pal: conversion time with cucsofts avi2mpeg anywhere between 2 and 18 hours with my AMD 2600+.(cucsoft also does the sound in separate parts before it re muxs it.)
tHE SAME FILE WITH divx to dvd : 1 hour.
dOES that make it clearer for you
No. I can email you a 700 meg AVI that will take cucusoft about 10 minutes to encode. I can send you another 700 meg AVI that will take cucusoft about 40 hours to encode. They're both 700 meg...what's the difference?
Black holes are where God divided by zero...
Cheers, Jim
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SUKIE
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11. March 2005 @ 06:34 |
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the way i see it, the differenc would be the length of the video, that would be th edeciding factor.
it doesnt matter what filesize your converting from, the active aspect is the hours andmins.
if i have a 700 meg avi{divx} and wanted to convert it to VCD, then although i wil be reducing the quality to VCD standards, the filesize would be bigger than 700 meg, becasue we are converting to VCD specifications, which is about 10 meg per minute, regardless of the contained quality of the AVI.
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Gringle
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11. March 2005 @ 06:41 |
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Yer know rebootjim; while I can admire your tenacity,
I can't
believe your veracity.
The way I see things is, you think... this VSO program is some sort of threat to you!
A few months back when I looked at the AD guides 'bout AVI to DVD conversion, and unlike k0k0m0 I didn't even try. (a mans gotta know his limitations) LOL
seems some, other, clever folk are making you realize yours?
regards gringle
El gringle..
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11. March 2005 @ 08:01 |
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Yes, I'm tenacious and veracious (is that a word?), and it's difficult to teach an old dog new tricks.
I am not arguing (or trying not to) with anyone. I simply wanted to point out that saying an AVI is 700 megs, doesn't give us much in the way of useful information, no matter WHAT program/method one uses to encode it.
VSo is not a threat, it's simply one of many tools.
My OPINION of it is not that high, because it lacks user control. That's it. Period.
Black holes are where God divided by zero...
Cheers, Jim
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