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Qoob - Upcomming no-swap modchip.
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Artlover
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23. March 2005 @ 06:58 |
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http://www.qoobchip.com/
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qoob PRO feature set
+ Direct boot of all media, without swapping!
+ Supports all regions PAL / USA / JAP
+ On-board MP3 Player included
+ Super easy USB upgrade system (USB transfer cable included)
+ DVD Disc upgradeable
+ Network(*) upgradeable
+ Bios selection/control supported
+ Supports all retail hardware (DOL-001 USA, JPN, EUR and DOL-101)
+ Fastboot of original discs
+ Compatible with "GCOS" and other IPL replacements, allowing homebrew development via SD card (**) and/or network (*)
+ Comfortable easy to use Windows PC flash software (in download section)
+ Supports homebrew and open-source coding
+ Integrated media compatabilty check (checks all sectors of inserted media)
+ Streaming Audio Fix
+ Integrated status LED
+ Easy Installation, only 6 wires (no soldering on qoob chip required, special cable included)
+ Multicolor graphical user interface for easy operation
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+ Supports Mini/DVD-R, Mini/DVD+R
+ 16MBit on-board Flash to store homebrew applications
+ High secure - low power Actel FPGA
+ Packed in a stable carboard box including all wires, 3D Sticker and USB transfer cable
(*) BBA required
(**) SD card adapter required
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windsong
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23. March 2005 @ 08:01 |
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Probably as fake as a 7 dollar bill. April Fools is starting a bit early this year, no?
If its too good to be true...IT IS!
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ssjowowo
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23. March 2005 @ 08:22 |
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no man this is true. there's a well designed page for it and also gamefreax are taking preorders. so it has to be true
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windsong
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23. March 2005 @ 08:40 |
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Hmm...maybe it is real. Its just that there have been so many scamsters and cloners of real authentic chips like the Viper that one cant help but be skeptical at first.
Man, an mp3 player?! Talk about crushing the competition. Methinks this will be fairly expensive ($100 plus?) when it arrives. Can't wait for reviews. At any rate, subsequent modchips in the months ahead have to at least offer these (admittedly kickass) features to stay competitive.
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Artlover
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23. March 2005 @ 10:14 |
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Well, you can pre-order it here:
http://www.gamefreax.com/lshop,showrub,1111597490-31013,e,1111597514-31458,1051894129.1051916199,,,,.htm
Prices are 50 euro for the SX version and 70 euro for the Pro. That works out to 65 & 91 USD.
Personaly, I'm not much into pre-orders. I'll wait till some actuall stock exists first. But if this is real, I will be buying one.
I really don't care about any of the media stuff, I've got a few xbox loaded with XBMC for that. I'm just looking for a no-swap way to play backups, so I'll likely get the SX version. Tho I want to see their homepage updated with specs on the SX version first so I can see what is different before I decide.
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Betatestr
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23. March 2005 @ 10:23 |
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holy crap this is awsome! i cant wait for it to come out, it sounds really to good to be true. its taken 3 years for a mod chip this great to come out on GCN.
only problem is you need a SD card :|
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Artlover
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23. March 2005 @ 10:44 |
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only problem is you need a SD card :|
No you don't.
Notice the *'s. You only need the SD card if you want to do SD card based development.
Like wise, you only need the BBA if you want to upgrade the chip via a network or do network based development.
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Betatestr
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23. March 2005 @ 11:25 |
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oh yeah..... miss read that >_<
i dont know i wanna get it, but im also wondering if i wait a better one will come out. although this already does alot of amazing stuff.
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AceMilo
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23. March 2005 @ 11:58 |
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Did anyone actally look at the install diagrams??? It is the SAME install as a viper with 2 more wires. One of those wires is a 5v line for the usb programmer and the other one is on the bios chip, perhaps a ground or a sync for the programmer. The only thing that sets this apart most likely is the bios. THIS IS A VIPER CLONE!!! Once us viper owners get their hands on the bios and someone encypts it for the viper, there will be direct boot.
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indienemo
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23. March 2005 @ 12:16 |
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Say it like it is brother....
Altho, I see MP3 Playback as a total gimmick... we have CD players, DVD players, Walkmen and PC's for that...
"Life is like a box of chocolates, whenever it comes to me all that is left is toffee logs" - Me.
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PC: Athlon 64 X2 4200+ @ 2.4Ghz, 2GB DDR2, X850 PE GFX.
GC: Viper GC w. Cobra bios 1.2
X360: Kreon 1.0 Drive, Softmodded console
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indienemo
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23. March 2005 @ 12:25 |
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Now the ability to code movies to Gamecube format then play them back....
THAT WOULD BE FRESH!
"Life is like a box of chocolates, whenever it comes to me all that is left is toffee logs" - Me.
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PC: Athlon 64 X2 4200+ @ 2.4Ghz, 2GB DDR2, X850 PE GFX.
GC: Viper GC w. Cobra bios 1.2
X360: Kreon 1.0 Drive, Softmodded console
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AceMilo
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23. March 2005 @ 13:20 |
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Cobra 1.0 will have no dres and will work with 101 units. It doesnt have the same wire count solely because of the usb programmer. Its a viper with 2 extra wires for the usb programmer, and usb control chip. Therefore, once they crack the bios and put it on viper, it will be the same.
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Betatestr
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23. March 2005 @ 13:25 |
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i highly doubt it, i never thought viper was a great thing. although since them GCN modding has definatly moved forward, im definatly going to sit back untill i see a nice mod chip perfect for me then im putting it in.
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foundmy
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23. March 2005 @ 13:33 |
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really. two extra wires for USB programming.
what would the USB cable require for USB flashing, nothing, if its like other chips that use USB programming, eg. XBIT, do not even require it to be plugged into the unit. and if its getting power from the
MOBO of the GC and GND. still doesnt account for the 2 more wires. since they would use the same GND as the chip becuase GND is GND. but i could be wrong.
so are you saying the viper team will grab the bios and clone it into theirs. SO then wouldn't the Vipergc then be a clone of the QOOB? so then Cobra 1.0 a clone of GCOS v1.4 since GCOS v1.4 works in DOL-10x units and Cobra 0.4 doesn't. not following your logic sorry.
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Artlover
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23. March 2005 @ 13:43 |
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I'm trying not to jinx it, but I do question if the no-swap claim is true. The problem is there are two different aspects that each hold water, but don't support each other.
I know the swapping revolves around the BCA barcode check which is not handled by the GC or it's bios, and this chip only add's another bios connection, but there are still no drive hook-ups, so I can't see how it would direct boot. If it was as easy as being a bios, then the Viper/Ripper/Ninja would beable to do it too, which they can't. But at the same time, it's currently being presold by a legitimate company and both they and the qoob people specificly state that it's a no-swap AND ps2nazi's had mentioned last month that a no-swap chip was comming out soon.
Since it's not out yet, none of us can say for sure what it will be capable of. All we can do is wait for it to get produced and avaialble.
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23. March 2005 @ 13:51 |
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It maybe real, I checked Xbox-Scene as they reported on the first GC chip, no report (Confirmed that its real OR fake) there. It maybe real, keep your eyes open and watch out scams.
"The only people who should buy Monster cable are people who light cigars with Benjamins." - Gizmodo
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Artlover
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23. March 2005 @ 13:53 |
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Cobra 1.0 will have no dres and will work with 101 units. It doesnt have the same wire count solely because of the usb programmer. Its a viper with 2 extra wires for the usb programmer, and usb control chip.
Really. Other GC mod chips have more wires then the viper, connect to +5 and don't have a USB. Why's that? And why exactly would the USB interface, which has to do with accessing the modchip need to reference anything on the GC's bios. Can you actually back up any of your rather interesting opinions?
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saltonsea
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23. March 2005 @ 15:21 |
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Actually this is 100% legit its some guy from Italy, hes been working on it for a while now.
I've been following his progress for a while now, and hes finally releasing the product, good news.
Don't be bitter.. just becuse you bought the swap modchip and now you have to shell out another $50 for the better solution
Borrow money from a Pessimist, he wont expect it back!
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+
1 GB OCZ Dual Channel
Nvidia 6800 GPU 128 MB RAM
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indienemo
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23. March 2005 @ 23:04 |
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Foundmy, this is hardly an advertising forum as the rules state...too bad I cant see the 'report offensive post button' atm.
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Don't be bitter.. just becuse you bought the swap modchip and now you have to shell out another $50 for the better solution
No 'cept we wont because we can just grab the bios
"Life is like a box of chocolates, whenever it comes to me all that is left is toffee logs" - Me.
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PC: Athlon 64 X2 4200+ @ 2.4Ghz, 2GB DDR2, X850 PE GFX.
GC: Viper GC w. Cobra bios 1.2
X360: Kreon 1.0 Drive, Softmodded console
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gulliver
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25. March 2005 @ 09:03 |
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No 'cept we wont because we can just grab the bios
well put nemo.
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Don't be bitter.. just becuse you bought the swap modchip and now you have to shell out another $50 for the better solution
why would anyone need to get this if they have a viper? as many have said, the only way this could be nonswap is if it's a bios issue; and if it's a bios issue than any other GC chip can do it. Plus, what makes it so much better? nonswap? who gives a shite. it would be nice to not have to swap but is it really that much of a big deal to people? five extra seconds?
mrunix, bring forth your golden gamecube and deliver us to the promised land.
My Gamecube: ViperGC with Cobra 1.0
My PS2: flip top (clear green) and swap magic 3.3
My laptop: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ w/512RAM, 60gig HD
My desktop: AMD Athl
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Artlover
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25. March 2005 @ 09:44 |
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who gives a shite. it would be nice to not have to swap but is it really that much of a big deal to people? five extra seconds?
Yeah, it is a big deal to people. I think you'll probably a more people then not care. Aside from just being inconvienent, it's makes dealing with multi-disc games anywhere between a pain in the butt to impossible.
No-swap is the only reason I'm interested in buying it and assuming it's real, I WILL buy it just for that, even at $91, despite having just spent $75 on my viper 2 months ago.
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saltonsea
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25. March 2005 @ 13:24 |
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Too bad its not just a bios issue its an actual hardware difference..... It has more solder points
Borrow money from a Pessimist, he wont expect it back!
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+
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gulliver
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25. March 2005 @ 22:04 |
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the extra solder points are for usb connecting and bios, not hardware. More wires doesn't mean anything. It depends on where the wires are going to.
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No-swap is the only reason I'm interested in buying it and assuming it's real, I WILL buy it just for that, even at $91, despite having just spent $75 on my viper 2 months ago.
Well, you must either be rich or increadibly lazy. You'd be willing to spend $91 when you just got a viper for the sole reason that you won't have to swap? Why did u even buy the viper? You should've waited for a no-swap method. Just seems like common sense to me, but to each his own I guess.
btw, good luck. it's pretty risky to remove a chip to put a new one in, unless you're putting it in a different cube.
mrunix, bring forth your golden gamecube and deliver us to the promised land.
My Gamecube: ViperGC with Cobra 1.0
My PS2: flip top (clear green) and swap magic 3.3
My laptop: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ w/512RAM, 60gig HD
My desktop: AMD Athl
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Artlover
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26. March 2005 @ 01:47 |
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Well, you must either be rich or increadibly lazy.
Excuse me, do you know me? (Hope your up for a long read - that's your punishment.)
1st, It DOES create issues with multidiscs games and makes some of them impossible to play.
2nd, Princible. Shouldn't have to need to. Don't have to swap in my SegaCD, Saturn, Dreamcast, PSX, PS2 or Xbox.
3nd, Unlike all those other systems, the cube doesn't even make it easy to play the swap disc game. Between the the way the case is design, and the time limit involved.
If your happy with it, fine. I'm not, and neither are a majority of people I've seen. To each their own.
My suggestion would be that you don't concern yourself with no-swap chips or people who want them, and refrain from pissing in threads about things that you obviously don't want, insulting people who do. Just a thought.
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it's pretty risky to remove a chip to put a new one in
Only if you don't know what you're doing.
I've been working with electronics and soldering equipment and test equipment for 20+ years. I fix all my own stuff; tv's, vcr's, monitors, printers, computers - all at a componente level. I build my own electronic devices from scratch, design my own circuits, etch my own boards, etc. for fun. Companies like MCM & Digikey & Mouser are close friends of mine.
It took me all of 30 seconds to install my viper. Easiest thing I've done in years. I could happily and easily uninstall and reinstall it all day. I can't even comprehend the comments I've seen some people make about how hard this was or how small the soldering points are. Small? Please, it has some of the largest points I've seen in an electronic device in recent years. You want to talk small or hard, go mod a PS2 or repair a broken DIMM.
It's comon sense. Modchips are electronic devices that require installation. Thus it requires some minimal basic skill in using the tools required. There is an assumption that people would know this. Unfortunatly, the problem with modchips are that they draw out a lot of unqualified people who do not have the knowledge or skill to install them but know that they can pirate games with it, so they insist on wanting to try.
How easy something looks means nothing if you have absolutly no understanding of any of it. If you want to do something you need to learn how to do it first. Not while you're trying to do it. Find some junked piece of electronics in a dumpster and try practicing on that first for a while. It actually only takes a few hours of practice to temporarly gain a minor level of proficiency. Not that most of these modders are trying to "learn" anything. They mostly are only concerned about trying to muddle their way through something they don't understand so they can start stealing.
I don't shed any tears for them or their broken cubes.
Now, is there anything ELSE you think you know about me and want to comment on? <rolls eyes!>
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gulliver
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26. March 2005 @ 05:19 |
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my God, some people are touchy...anyway
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If your happy with it, fine. I'm not, and neither are a majority of people I've seen. To each their own.
My suggestion would be that you don't concern yourself with no-swap chips or people who want them, and refrain from pissing in threads about things that you obviously don't want, insulting people who do. Just a thought.
Well, for one, I wasn't aware that I was "pissing on" it. If you could give a quote where I was bashing it, I'd love to see it. Just because I don't think this chip is the greatest thing ever doesn't mean I shouldn't concern myself with talking about it. If I want to voice my opinion, even if it doesn't agree with yours (like it matters) then I'm going to. If someone was insulting by something I said, then they have real problems. What exactly did I say that was insulting? That I think it's stupid to buy a chip and remove it two months or so later to put in another one? Sorry, but that is stupid.
Anyway, that's fine that people aren't happy with their viper and wanna replace it. I don't care about that. If they think this chip will solve their dre problems or whatever, then more power to them. But if you're having dre problems now, I hope you know (I'm not talking to anyone specific, so you know) that this chip won't solve it. Almost all dres are from a combination of your burner and media, and how compatible they are with each other. But that's for a different thread entirely.
Anyway, Artlover, I'm not trying to insult you. And I'm sorry if I did, really. I just don't really expect people on these forums to be old enough to have been working with anything for 20+ years. I guess I just don't understand what's so special about this chip. But anyway, there's enough fighting in these damn gamecube forums. I thought I understood it before, but I'm not sure anymore.
Anyway, moving on...
mrunix, bring forth your golden gamecube and deliver us to the promised land.
My Gamecube: ViperGC with Cobra 1.0
My PS2: flip top (clear green) and swap magic 3.3
My laptop: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ w/512RAM, 60gig HD
My desktop: AMD Athl
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