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Qoob - Upcomming no-swap modchip.
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gulliver
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2. April 2005 @ 10:52 |
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The qoob should be boycotted for being thieves.
Viper is the real deal!
mrunix, bring forth your golden gamecube and deliver us to the promised land.
My Gamecube: ViperGC with Cobra 1.0
My PS2: flip top (clear green) and swap magic 3.3
My laptop: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ w/512RAM, 60gig HD
My desktop: AMD Athl
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Artlover
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2. April 2005 @ 11:40 |
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Consider the source and who they are associated with. Until someone compares cobra 1.0 and qoob's bios, I wouldn't jump to conclusions.
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gulliver
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2. April 2005 @ 20:33 |
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I have considered the source and I'm not jumping to conclusions...but I guess we're already discussing this at maxconsole;)
mrunix, bring forth your golden gamecube and deliver us to the promised land.
My Gamecube: ViperGC with Cobra 1.0
My PS2: flip top (clear green) and swap magic 3.3
My laptop: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ w/512RAM, 60gig HD
My desktop: AMD Athl
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AceMilo
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2. April 2005 @ 20:55 |
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Well I'm only going by the nfo and what I have heard otherwise, but afaik the qoob bios is based on cobra 1.0. I had a strong feeling that the qoob was just a viper clone. The qoob bios was released tho, so if someone wants to start comparing, maybe they will be the same code. I'm gonna look at it a little myself and see what I can.
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gulliver
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2. April 2005 @ 20:59 |
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Well I'm only going by the nfo and what I have heard otherwise, but afaik the qoob bios is based on cobra 1.0. I had a strong feeling that the qoob was just a viper clone. The qoob bios was released tho, so if someone wants to start comparing, maybe they will be the same code. I'm gonna look at it a little myself and see what I can.
do it bro and get back to me whenever the info is available. I got people bitching at me left and right because I'm calling qoob thieves. But I gotta call em as I see em:)
mrunix, bring forth your golden gamecube and deliver us to the promised land.
My Gamecube: ViperGC with Cobra 1.0
My PS2: flip top (clear green) and swap magic 3.3
My laptop: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ w/512RAM, 60gig HD
My desktop: AMD Athl
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Artlover
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3. April 2005 @ 08:10 |
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I have considered the source and I'm not jumping to conclusions...but I guess we're already discussing this at maxconsole;)
Yeah, no point duplicating the discussion all over the place. One thread is hard enough. <smile> :P
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indienemo
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3. April 2005 @ 16:22 |
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This all to off topic for me, we came to discuss the qoob chip not scrap over which chip has the biggest cock (all metaphors you understand)...
"Life is like a box of chocolates, whenever it comes to me all that is left is toffee logs" - Me.
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PC: Athlon 64 X2 4200+ @ 2.4Ghz, 2GB DDR2, X850 PE GFX.
GC: Viper GC w. Cobra bios 1.2
X360: Kreon 1.0 Drive, Softmodded console
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gulliver
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3. April 2005 @ 16:46 |
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This all to off topic for me, we came to discuss the qoob chip not scrap over which chip has the biggest c*ck (all metaphors you understand)...
watch your mouth bro; there's some younger kids on here.
As you can see...it doesn't really look like anyone is interested in talking solely about the cube;)
mrunix, bring forth your golden gamecube and deliver us to the promised land.
My Gamecube: ViperGC with Cobra 1.0
My PS2: flip top (clear green) and swap magic 3.3
My laptop: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ w/512RAM, 60gig HD
My desktop: AMD Athl
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3. April 2005 @ 23:53 |
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Heh gulliver you forgot to mention the mp3 support in the Bios for Cobra or USB support.They are different man trust me,Qoob didn't bite off Cobra and Cobra didn't bite off the Qoob.For one the Viper uses parrallel port and the Qoob uses USB.The bios files have to be different,because they use different calls.I thought we already talked about this though awhile back.I don't know,just seems logical to me that it couldn't be a clone of bios files.Plus you have to think which is easier using parrallel port or USB to flash the modchip ;).I have to say I would rather use USB than parrallel anyday to flash a chip.It seems like parrallel was giving people alot of trouble,so they added the function to upgrade from disc for the Viper.Qoob will be alot different,hooking a USB cable to the GameCube could also allow external HDD support also.I can't really say that it is true or not,but an external drive runs off USB.Keep in mind though USB and parrallel make a big difference in the bios files.
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gulliver
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4. April 2005 @ 23:17 |
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Scratch that theory bro. Viper is coming out with a USB programmer soon;)
mrunix, bring forth your golden gamecube and deliver us to the promised land.
My Gamecube: ViperGC with Cobra 1.0
My PS2: flip top (clear green) and swap magic 3.3
My laptop: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ w/512RAM, 60gig HD
My desktop: AMD Athl
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5. April 2005 @ 10:55 |
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The Viper will be able to use USB to USB function is what you are saying.I don't really think that is possible unless they modify the modchip bro.Where could they hook a USB cable to the Viper modchip.The Qoob has a USB port already built on the board of the modchip,so it connects via USB to USB.Think about it,on the modchip it has a female end that you can connect a male USB plug into.They are going to be using Male to Male USB cable for the Qoob.I think Viper would have to come up with a new modchip for USB to USB support bro,unless they can make a parrallel to USB convertor.I highly doubt it will be possible man.They probably can put USB drivers on the BIOS,but it won't help them since USB isn't supported with the Viper.
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AceMilo
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5. April 2005 @ 11:50 |
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Well they released their flashing software today. From the looks of it, the 2mb chip is seperated into 15 individual banks of 128k each. WTF is the point of that? They don't say whether or not you can flash 1 bios over multiple banks (ie a 1mb bios over half the banks) or if each bank is seperate. There doesn't appear to be any hardware was of switching banks, so it must be done in software. Anyway, the bios files are only 40k each, so they aren't using anywhere near the space that cobra is, so its probably just a stripped down cobra 1.0 bios, most likely it just took out the cheat code system and the swap option. I'm fairly sure they are encrypted tho, so once someone decrypts both the qoob bios and cobra 1.0 we will see for sure.
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gulliver
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5. April 2005 @ 12:42 |
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The Viper will be able to use USB to USB function is what you are saying.I don't really think that is possible unless they modify the modchip bro.Where could they hook a USB cable to the Viper modchip.The Qoob has a USB port already built on the board of the modchip,so it connects via USB to USB.Think about it,on the modchip it has a female end that you can connect a male USB plug into.They are going to be using Male to Male USB cable for the Qoob.I think Viper would have to come up with a new modchip for USB to USB support bro,unless they can make a parrallel to USB convertor.I highly doubt it will be possible man.They probably can put USB drivers on the BIOS,but it won't help them since USB isn't supported with the Viper.
Well, it must be possible, otherwise it wouldn't be in the cobra nfo. why would there need to be a USB connector on the actual chip though? If I'm correct, they're probably just going to replace the parallel connector on the programmer with the USB connector. It doesn't need to be on the chip at all.
mrunix, bring forth your golden gamecube and deliver us to the promised land.
My Gamecube: ViperGC with Cobra 1.0
My PS2: flip top (clear green) and swap magic 3.3
My laptop: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ w/512RAM, 60gig HD
My desktop: AMD Athl
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5. April 2005 @ 13:31 |
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Wait a minute that doesn't make any sense then does it.How would the modchip even get USB to connect to it then.I think you are talking about a convertor then right,parrallel to USB am I right.The USB needs to connect to the modchip other wise it will not gain access any other way besides parrallel.
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5. April 2005 @ 13:35 |
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They could change the programmer,but still I highly doubt they will.Reason why is they probably won't,because so many people have already bought up the recent programmers already.I don't think the Qoob bit off the Cobra,and as far as anybody at the momment nobody really knows.
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gulliver
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5. April 2005 @ 17:05 |
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They could change the programmer,but still I highly doubt they will.Reason why is they probably won't,because so many people have already bought up the recent programmers already.I don't think the Qoob bit off the Cobra,and as far as anybody at the momment nobody really knows.
I don't know what else to say. It's in the nfo and I have no reason to think that they're lying. I guess we'll find out soon enough.
mrunix, bring forth your golden gamecube and deliver us to the promised land.
My Gamecube: ViperGC with Cobra 1.0
My PS2: flip top (clear green) and swap magic 3.3
My laptop: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ w/512RAM, 60gig HD
My desktop: AMD Athl
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5. April 2005 @ 17:30 |
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I don't know what else to say man,I guess they could actually change the programmer.The programmer could allow USB support right,since that is what the original parrallel port connects to.I guess it would be kinda hard though to tell everyone to buy a new programmer,the people that already have the parrallel port programmer at the momment.I guess the best thing to do is wait it out like always right.I am not saying you are lying or anything,but kinda sounds a little skeptical because of how many people already own the parrallel port programmers.I really would like to know if the bios files are different or if the Qoob is a clone of the Cobra.If it is then I would rather get the original creators modchip.I can't really be certain if the Qoob's bios file is a clone or not.I do like the cheat code function that Cobra implemented,which the Qoob doesn't support.That is pretty cool in my opinion,the cheat code option.I kinda am against Cobra in a way though,because they are associated with http://www.ps2nfo.com (I can't stand those pricks to be honest and really don't want to support anyone that is associated with them).
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gulliver
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5. April 2005 @ 23:27 |
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I feel the same way. If it's proven that qoob stole from cobra then I would hope no one would buy it. With gcos it's a different story because they did it for the good of the scene and cobra even gives them props in the nfo.
I like the cheat option a lot too. I haven't actually tried it yet but I've been compiling as many cheats as I'll ever use so I can put them all on one dvd. Cheats add a lot of replay value to games. It is interesting that qoob didn't implement the cheat system in their bios. If they did steal the cobra code, it would make a lot of sense for them not to add the cheat system so it looks like their bios is original. I don't remember where, but they admit to taking from cobra 0.4, so I don't see what would stop them from stealing the direct boot info.
Anyway, I hate ps2sucks as well and yeah, the fact that cobra is associated with them leaves an unpleasant taste in my mouth. But I think of it this way. When viper / cobra were new, they probably didn't know anything about ps2sucks beforehand or their reputation. So I don't really blame them. I'm sure if they knew what they were getting themselves into, they would've went a different direction. Also, it's funny that in the cobra 1.0 nfo they gives props to gcos when ps2sucks won't even admit they exist. It's like a slap in the face to ps2sucks. You gotta admit that they're pretty cool for doing that.
mrunix, bring forth your golden gamecube and deliver us to the promised land.
My Gamecube: ViperGC with Cobra 1.0
My PS2: flip top (clear green) and swap magic 3.3
My laptop: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ w/512RAM, 60gig HD
My desktop: AMD Athl
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Artlover
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6. April 2005 @ 08:32 |
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I don't know what else to say. It's in the nfo
What does the NFO say? It says coincidence. Look the word up. It also gives vague timeframes that do not track well. Be nice if they gave specific dates of when things happened. Their "leak a month ago, then 2 weeks later qoob" doesn't hold water, no matter how much water proofing you put on it.
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I have no reason to think that they're lying.
Besides protecting their viper sales you mean?
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gulliver
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6. April 2005 @ 14:45 |
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What does the NFO say? It says coincidence. Look the word up. It also gives vague timeframes that do not track well. Be nice if they gave specific dates of when things happened. Their "leak a month ago, then 2 weeks later qoob" doesn't hold water, no matter how much water proofing you put on it.
Ummm, I'm not sure if you realize it, but you misquoted me. Those comments I made about it being in the nfo, I was talking about the USB programmer, not qoob stealing the bios.
I said I'm not arguing about that anymore till there's more info anyway;)
mrunix, bring forth your golden gamecube and deliver us to the promised land.
My Gamecube: ViperGC with Cobra 1.0
My PS2: flip top (clear green) and swap magic 3.3
My laptop: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ w/512RAM, 60gig HD
My desktop: AMD Athl
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Artlover
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6. April 2005 @ 17:20 |
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Ummm, I'm not sure if you realize it, but you misquoted me. Those comments I made about it being in the nfo, I was talking about the USB programmer, not qoob stealing the bios.
Ah, yes, I can see that now.
My apologies sir.
/action slinks off to put on a dunce cap and stand in the corner.
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korayg
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8. April 2005 @ 06:14 |
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nobody tried The Qoob yet ?
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gulliver
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8. April 2005 @ 12:26 |
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mrunix, bring forth your golden gamecube and deliver us to the promised land.
My Gamecube: ViperGC with Cobra 1.0
My PS2: flip top (clear green) and swap magic 3.3
My laptop: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ w/512RAM, 60gig HD
My desktop: AMD Athl
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