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Official Spanglish Thread
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9. April 2005 @ 12:04 |
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@Jerry746 - Right On!!!...;-)
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djlen
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9. April 2005 @ 13:21 |
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Ok guys - I borrowed another copy of Spanglish and ripped it with Decrypter, resized with Shrink and burned with Nero.
Same result. Black screen to start with. If I click to move ahead to the next chapter it starts at chapter 3. I can then re-wind back to the beginning to view the entire movie.
On the Decrypter forum, they suggested I set everything on my Decrypter to 'default'(I had it on 'brute force') which I did.
Made no difference.
This is the only movie I've had this happen with. Luckily, I burned this one to a re-writable so nothing is lost.
I still don't know why this movie is a problem however.
Here's the logfile from decrypter:
15:54:05 DVD Decrypter Version 3.5.4.0 started!
I 15:54:05 Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2)
I 15:54:05 Initialising SPTI...
I 15:54:05 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 15:54:05 Found 1 DVD-ROM/CD-RW and 1 DVD±RW!
W 15:55:23 Possible Structure Protection Found!
W 15:55:23 8 areas have been marked as 'suspect'.
W 15:55:23 Dummy sectors will be inserted where necessary.
I 15:55:25 Operation Started!
I 15:55:25 Source Device: [1:1:0] SONY CD-RW CRX320E NYK5 (E:) (ATA)
I 15:55:25 Source Media Type: DVD-ROM
I 15:55:25 Source Media Region Code: 1
I 15:55:25 Source Media Copyright Protection System Type: CSS/CPPM
I 15:55:25 Source Media Implementation Identifier: SONY DVD Video
I 15:55:25 Destination File: C:\DVD_VIDEO.ISO
I 15:55:25 File Splitting: Auto
I 15:55:25 Remove Structure Protection: No
I 15:55:25 Bad Sector Removal Method: Normal
I 15:55:25 Detect Mastering Errors: No
I 15:55:25 Remove Macrovision Protection: Yes
I 15:55:25 Extracting Sectors... (LBA: 0 - 4169919)
I 15:56:42 Found IFO File: VIDEO_TS.IFO - (LBA: 184950 - 184962)
I 15:56:42 Found VOB File: VIDEO_TS.VOB - (LBA: 184982 - 195314) - KEY: C0 75 9C A2 09
I 15:56:46 Found BUP File: VIDEO_TS.BUP - (LBA: 195318 - 195330)
I 15:56:46 Found IFO File: VTS_01_0.IFO - (LBA: 195350 - 195358)
I 15:56:46 Found VOB File: VTS_01_0.VOB - (LBA: 195359 - 195375) - KEY: C0 75 9C A2 09
I 15:56:46 Found VOB File: VTS_01_1.VOB - (LBA: 195376 - 267296) - KEY: C0 75 9C A2 09
I 15:57:12 Found BUP File: VTS_01_0.BUP - (LBA: 267297 - 267305)
I 15:57:12 Found IFO File: VTS_02_0.IFO - (LBA: 267306 - 267314)
I 15:57:12 Found VOB File: VTS_02_0.VOB - (LBA: 267315 - 267331) - KEY: D5 CA 6F 01 9D
I 15:57:12 Found VOB File: VTS_02_1.VOB - (LBA: 267332 - 281881) - KEY: D5 CA 6F 01 9D
I 15:57:17 Found BUP File: VTS_02_0.BUP - (LBA: 281882 - 281890)
I 15:57:17 Found IFO File: VTS_03_0.IFO - (LBA: 281891 - 281899)
I 15:57:17 Found VOB File: VTS_03_0.VOB - (LBA: 281900 - 281916) - KEY: CD 7E 37 B9 91
I 15:57:17 Found VOB File: VTS_03_1.VOB - (LBA: 281917 - 326546) - KEY: CD 7E 37 B9 91
I 15:57:32 Found BUP File: VTS_03_0.BUP - (LBA: 326547 - 326555)
I 15:57:32 Found IFO File: VTS_04_0.IFO - (LBA: 326556 - 326564)
I 15:57:32 Found VOB File: VTS_04_0.VOB - (LBA: 326565 - 326581) - KEY: C8 28 A8 F6 87
I 15:57:32 Found VOB File: VTS_04_1.VOB - (LBA: 326582 - 364651) - KEY: C8 28 A8 F6 87
I 15:57:44 Found BUP File: VTS_04_0.BUP - (LBA: 364652 - 364660)
I 15:57:44 Found IFO File: VTS_05_0.IFO - (LBA: 364661 - 364669)
I 15:57:45 Found VOB File: VTS_05_0.VOB - (LBA: 364670 - 364686) - KEY: CB DC C0 57 F9
I 15:57:45 Found VOB File: VTS_05_1.VOB - (LBA: 364687 - 420049) - KEY: CB DC C0 57 F9
I 15:58:02 Found BUP File: VTS_05_0.BUP - (LBA: 420050 - 420058)
I 15:58:02 Found IFO File: VTS_06_0.IFO - (LBA: 420059 - 420067)
I 15:58:02 Found VOB File: VTS_06_0.VOB - (LBA: 420068 - 420084) - KEY: D4 9F A9 83 8D
I 15:58:02 Found VOB File: VTS_06_1.VOB - (LBA: 420085 - 468214) - KEY: D4 9F A9 83 8D
I 15:58:17 Found BUP File: VTS_06_0.BUP - (LBA: 468215 - 468223)
I 15:58:17 Found IFO File: VTS_07_0.IFO - (LBA: 468224 - 468273)
I 15:58:17 Found VOB File: VTS_07_0.VOB - (LBA: 468274 - 654170) - KEY: CE 97 12 14 F2
I 15:59:11 Found VOB File: VTS_07_1.VOB - (LBA: 654171 - 1178457) - KEY: CE 97 12 14 F2
W 15:59:18 Inserting Dummy Sectors... (LBA: 662362 - 670537)
I 15:59:19 Extracting Sectors...
I 16:01:29 Found VOB File: VTS_07_2.VOB - (LBA: 1178458 - 1702744) - KEY: CE 97 12 14 F2
I 16:03:19 Found VOB File: VTS_07_3.VOB - (LBA: 1702745 - 2227031) - KEY: CE 97 12 14 F2
I 16:04:57 Found VOB File: VTS_07_4.VOB - (LBA: 2227032 - 2751318) - KEY: CE 97 12 14 F2
I 16:06:40 Found VOB File: VTS_07_5.VOB - (LBA: 2751319 - 3106593) - KEY: CE 97 12 14 F2
I 16:07:59 Found BUP File: VTS_07_0.BUP - (LBA: 3106594 - 3106643)
I 16:08:36 Found IFO File: VTS_08_0.IFO - (LBA: 3258727 - 3258752)
I 16:08:36 Found VOB File: VTS_08_0.VOB - (LBA: 3258753 - 3258769) - KEY: C6 D8 91 FF 0F
I 16:08:36 Found VOB File: VTS_08_1.VOB - (LBA: 3258770 - 3764846) - KEY: C6 D8 91 FF 0F
I 16:10:55 Found VOB File: VTS_08_2.VOB - (LBA: 3764847 - 3837440) - KEY: N/A
W 16:11:03 Inserting Dummy Sectors... (LBA: 3768944 - 3837440)
I 16:11:05 Extracting Sectors...
I 16:11:05 Found BUP File: VTS_08_0.BUP - (LBA: 3837441 - 3837466)
I 16:11:05 Found IFO File: VTS_09_0.IFO - (LBA: 3837467 - 3837479)
I 16:11:06 Found VOB File: VTS_09_0.VOB - (LBA: 3837480 - 3837496) - KEY: CE A8 12 9C 4E
I 16:11:06 Found VOB File: VTS_09_1.VOB - (LBA: 3837497 - 4064276) - KEY: CE A8 12 9C 4E
I 16:12:30 Found BUP File: VTS_09_0.BUP - (LBA: 4064277 - 4064289)
I 16:12:30 Found IFO File: VTS_10_0.IFO - (LBA: 4064290 - 4064299)
I 16:12:30 Found VOB File: VTS_10_0.VOB - (LBA: 4064300 - 4064316) - KEY: CF 82 44 8A 78
I 16:12:30 Found VOB File: VTS_10_1.VOB - (LBA: 4064317 - 4143317) - KEY: CF 82 44 8A 78
I 16:13:03 Found BUP File: VTS_10_0.BUP - (LBA: 4143318 - 4143327)
I 16:13:03 Found IFO File: VTS_11_0.IFO - (LBA: 4143328 - 4143336)
I 16:13:03 Found VOB File: VTS_11_0.VOB - (LBA: 4143337 - 4143353) - KEY: C0 7E 6E D0 7C
I 16:13:03 Found VOB File: VTS_11_1.VOB - (LBA: 4143354 - 4169345) - KEY: C0 7E 6E D0 7C
I 16:13:14 Found BUP File: VTS_11_0.BUP - (LBA: 4169346 - 4169354)
I 16:13:14 Found IFO File: VTS_12_0.IFO - (LBA: 4169355 - 4169363)
I 16:13:14 Found VOB File: VTS_12_1.VOB - (LBA: 4169365 - 4169627) - KEY: C2 B4 93 EE 99
I 16:13:14 Found BUP File: VTS_12_0.BUP - (LBA: 4169628 - 4169636)
I 16:13:14 Found IFO File: VTS_13_0.IFO - (LBA: 4169637 - 4169645)
I 16:13:14 Found VOB File: VTS_13_1.VOB - (LBA: 4169647 - 4169909) - KEY: C5 C1 36 7A C9
I 16:13:14 Found BUP File: VTS_13_0.BUP - (LBA: 4169910 - 4169918)
I 16:13:14 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:17:49
I 16:13:14 Average Read Rate: 7,801 KB/s (5.6x) - Maximum Read Rate: 16,180 KB/s (11.7x)
Any feedback?
Len
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9. April 2005 @ 13:56 |
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I realize this isnt about spanglish, however I believe your 50/50 theory could be a direct relation to 24 as well. I myself couldnt get spanglish to burn or copy along with closer. So I got the new update to DVD43 and right away closer burned no problem. After another shot at spanglish it still wasnt working so i got another copy from blockbuster and vualla (if thats correct spelling?)...which leads me to my next problem...
I am looking for help in regards to the TV series 24. I have tried burning the second and third seasons with little success. The odd part is that on both seasons the first two discs of the six total burned to perfection, however discs 3-6 on both seasons fail over and over. Now, recently as I was trying to burn some other movies those failed as well, so I went to www.DVD43.com and downloaded the new updates. This solved my problems for sideways and closer, however my dilema with 24 and the most important of them all, is still at hand. I started burning dvd's with DVD43 and 1 click copy and have never had any problems. Now 24 and a couple other new movies are bringing me problems. I am curious as to all these other softwares and how to burn TV seasons. I have read something about making it 2 episodes per disc and 12 discs total? I have also received an error message when trying to start the copy on DVD43 which states, "unable to open the movie file VIDEO_TS.IFO, this file is damaged or missing."
All in all, I am very confused, I can see this is a problem for many and have read a couple comments on 24 specificly, but am unsure which road of recommendation to take, any feedback would be greatly appreciated. m@
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9. April 2005 @ 15:58 |
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I tried several progams to copy this movie with no luck..my last resort is going to be intervideo..it usually works where others won't.
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brobear
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9. April 2005 @ 17:42 |
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@S2K
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AnyDVD and DVD Decrypter function differently... For those who like to keep putting off a purchase of retail apps. The big reason for purchase is because they make things easier. In the case of software, freeware can often do a task. In the case of AnyDVD it makes the copying process easier.
That sort of covered a good part of reasons.
http://www.slysoft.com
AnyDVD is a driver, which descrambles DVD-Movies automatically in the background. This DVD appears unprotected and region code free for all applications and the Windows operating system as well. With AnyDVD's help copy tools like CloneDVD, Pinnacle Instant Copy, InterVideo DVD-Copy, etc. are able to copy CSS protected Movies. With the help of AnyDVD you can watch movies with non matching region codes with every DVD Player Software you like! AnyDVD decrypts not just DVDs: AnyDVD allows you also to play, copy and rip protected Audio CDs!
I'm not advertising for AnyDVD, I just think it's handy enough that the members should know what it is. Most of us know what DVD Decrypter is capable of. As I said, I have both. AnyDVD was especially handy when none of the other rippers had been updated to properly handle the ARccOS encryption. AnyDVD is consistently the first to be updated (they're paid well to do so). If you're happy with just DVD Decrypter and it fills your needs, then there is absolutely no reason to purchase AnyDVD. Slysoft has a 3 week trial for anyone wanting to try out the AnyDVD. Use the link posted above. There are reasons, not being free turns some people off.
Having the right software makes doing movies like Spanglish a lot easier. Having the latest version of DVD Decrypter and/or AnyDVD goes a long way in insuring good results. DVDInfoPro is another good freeware program. Since there are more questionable discs showing up, DvdInfoPro can be used to check those discs for errors. http://www.dvdinfopro.com There are other tools, Nero contains some disc utilities.
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9. April 2005 @ 17:50 |
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Jerry746
I heard there was a problem with Grudge and Resident Evil 2 when trying to record the entire disc with CloneDVD2 and AnyDVD. Doing movie only solved the movie backup with a lot of software. But a lot of people complained when doing the entire disc. Seems, Arccos, puppetlock, bad sectors and the structure protection was causing the programs not to function properly.
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9. April 2005 @ 18:14 |
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I was unable to copy Spanglish until I upgraded to AnyDVD 4.6.3.1 and CloneDVD 2.7.5.1. I did hear that the industry was going to start using new encryption methods on DVDS. I think the upgrades on Decrytption software may start becoming more frequent then usual.
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9. April 2005 @ 18:22 |
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Deac22
Slysoft with the AnyDVD has been doing a lot of updating recently to keep up with the minor changes going on with encryption. They've been staying ahead in the game much better than most ripper software. Lightning UK is doing an exceptional job with his freeware DVD Decrypter. He was only a bit behind SlySoft in updating. However, for a while, DVD Decrypter was using patches in order to rip some entire DVDs for copying.
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9. April 2005 @ 19:26 |
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what's going on people? i remember RE2 that was a problem movie. not spanglish, i have a cheap computer,use only the cheappest media and i was able to rip spanglish twice 1) decrypter(free) and shink Nero to burn; 2) 1click dvd copy and dvdfree(free)in the background.
Nero Recode2 or Shrink using deep analysis and AEC/ fabdecrypter or anydvd running in the background/ IMGBurn to burn/main movie only mode= perfect.
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brobear
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9. April 2005 @ 19:32 |
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There goes a big vote toward Spanglish being easy. IClickDVDCopy is a poor transcoder. I tried it with Grudge and when it hit the bad sectors, it just set there for a couple of hours. I tired of keeping tabs on it and turned it off. For doing movie only, it appears to work okay, but the video quality isn't as good as some of the better transcoders, the free DVD Shrink included.
@elizerroj
Did you backup the entire disc or just the movie only?
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9. April 2005 @ 19:38 |
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good point brobear i did both copies using movie only maybe that is the key. set decrypter to movie only.
Nero Recode2 or Shrink using deep analysis and AEC/ fabdecrypter or anydvd running in the background/ IMGBurn to burn/main movie only mode= perfect.
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9. April 2005 @ 19:40 |
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people there is no need to buy AnyDVD just yet. decrypter is alive and well
Nero Recode2 or Shrink using deep analysis and AEC/ fabdecrypter or anydvd running in the background/ IMGBurn to burn/main movie only mode= perfect.
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9. April 2005 @ 19:50 |
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Hi Brobear, I didn't have a problem with either Grudge or RE2 but I do edit most of my movies. I start Clone like I'm doing a full disc backup but then edit all trailers and some of the extras. All I end up with is the working menu, main movie and some extras if they interest me. Everything else goes. That may be why I didn't have any problems. But I do this with all my backups. I check each line of data that Clone lists and if its junk I don't want, I uncheck that line. My first backup program was X Copy Express, then moved on to Shrink which can't be beat for the price and now only use CloneDVD and AnyDVD. I've tried several other programs but keep coming back to Clone/Anydvd. Besides I like watching the sheep eat popcorn.
Jerry
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9. April 2005 @ 20:25 |
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elizerroj
Try recording on the fly with DVDCopy3, CloneDVD2, or Recode2 using DVD Decrypter. As I said, they are different type programs, one is a background driver decryption tool and the other decrypts while ripping to the HD. There is a use for both. Most good transcoder/encoder programs that will record on the fly will use HD files as well. Once again it just boils down to ease of use and how one wants to accomplish the task. For some it is a matter of cost.
Jerry,
Yep, popcorn and movies go together. ;) It is likely you edited out your problems. A lot of people that edit a lot or go for the movie only didn't realize there could be a problem. On most DVDs I go for the entire disc. I've found DVDCopy3 does an excellent job at high compression. As long as the quality level is 2 or above, I never worry about the video quality. When I want the best quality I go with RB/CCE. CCE Basic costs about $50 and the RB is betaware. So, RB/CCE ends up being much cheaper than most transcoder apps. It uses HD files, so all is needed is DVD Decrypter to rip and a burner program to burn the finished output. CCE offers an SP trial that works with RB, so a person can check it out before buying. Plenty of RB/CCE threads on the forum. http://www.intervideo.com is the link for DVDCopy3. There is a full function Platinum trial for those who might want to try it. This one works on the fly with AnyDVD or uses the ripped files from DVD Decrypter.
By the way, I got AnyDVD and CloneDVD2 as a package some time back.
The earlier CloneDVD2 versions didn't handle compression as well as other programs. They appear to have improved that some, but I still haven't gotten back to using it very often.
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9. April 2005 @ 20:35 |
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great advise thanks bro. what is ur opinon on dvdxcopy platinum, it's been great for me. great quality.
Nero Recode2 or Shrink using deep analysis and AEC/ fabdecrypter or anydvd running in the background/ IMGBurn to burn/main movie only mode= perfect.
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9. April 2005 @ 20:56 |
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Another program that AnyDVD gave a new lease on life. DVDXCopy suffers from obsolete decryption software as well as DVD Shrink. However, with XCopy the Browse function only worked with the RF version (no ripper) and Decrypter couldn't be used with the versions through 4.0.3.8, preceding the RF. There are some patches at http://www.dvdripforums.co.uk that will fix the Browse function (gets rid of the nag screens and the 321 backup warning as well). DVDXCopy Platinum is a decent program if you already own it. However, it is only good for DVD5 and with the other programs like DVDCopy3 and CloneDVD2 on the market, it is way over priced in comparison. This is one I'd say is a bit dated, but still useful. Also, a program I wouldn't suggest running out to purchase. So, if you have it and find it useful, there is no reason not to use it.
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9. April 2005 @ 21:26 |
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bro. i have both versions of dvdxcopy platinum. when the one with the ripper build in can't hadle new encryptions, i use the free ripper version one with DVD43 woking in the background. either way i seems to me that platinum's quality is great even when using high(30%)compression. see i do not always trust shrink as much as must people do.
Nero Recode2 or Shrink using deep analysis and AEC/ fabdecrypter or anydvd running in the background/ IMGBurn to burn/main movie only mode= perfect.
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brobear
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9. April 2005 @ 22:21 |
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You can use the link I supplied. There is a patch to activate the ripper in the RF version. All you have to contend with then is an obsolete ripper. DVD43 is okay in many cases, but that program has proven to be slow in getting updated. While AnyDVD and DVD Decrypter had the newer encryption problems solved, it was a long time before DVD43 got it done and they don't have nearly the success rate as the AnyDVD and Decrypter.
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djlen
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10. April 2005 @ 09:41 |
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The following is a reply I got to my question regarding my inability to burn Spanglish properly:
'Before you waste any more discs, after you have ripped it in FILE mode, not ISO READ mode , play it back from your hdd with powerdvd or media player classis ( free) , and tell us what happens.does the first 3 chapters play properley ( there is a guide for "Playback from HDD" in the guides section, with a link to media player classic as well
ive a feeling this is something to do with nero, which as its a commercial program , im afraid we dont support.
if you have a RW disc, after you have ripped it in FILE mode , ALL FILES , and ran it thru a PC player, run it thru shrink,and save as an ISO , then close shrink, open DVDD and burn the ISO with DVDDec in ISO WRITE Mode
NOTE: lets eliminate Nero for the time being.'
I followed VolvoFL10's advice and got a perfect burn from beginning to end.
He seems to think the problem lies somewhere between this particular movie and Nero. After the perfect burn with Decrypter I have to agree.
Just wish I knew why.
[EDIT]: That reply came from the Decrypter forum, BTW.
Len
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trublue01
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10. April 2005 @ 17:36 |
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the other day i upgraded to the latest version of decrypter. used decrypter, shrik, then decrypter.
well spanglish backup worked in my cheap apex dvd player in the bedroom but in my sony dvdplayer it says cant play disc. any ideas
do i need to make changes to the decrypter set up or jsut ttry a new disc???
josh
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10. April 2005 @ 17:51 |
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First thing that comes to mind is a possible media/player compatibility problem. Does the Sony play both formats of burned media(+ & -). Most of the older players played -R media only. Just a guess.
Jerry
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trublue01
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10. April 2005 @ 17:59 |
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its a fairly new dvd player. i use -r. the same discs i have used for all my other backups. dunno if when i upgraded to the latest version of decrypter i needed to change some of the options or somethin.
i have been using verbatim and if they failed TYs. burn at 4x
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fastman
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10. April 2005 @ 19:17 |
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I have been reading the threads and I don't believe the problem is only a "Spanglish" thing, but rather the format this this DVD came out on. What I have noted in the past is that there are certain DVD's that come out by Columbia/Sony that have this issue.
I've tried the split disk option with DVDCloneII latest version and as noted by another member with a different program that the DVD starts out blank then you fast forward and it opens at chapter 3.
The same happens with "The Forgotton".
I don't thing this issuea of bad disk are true.
So far to summarize I noted people had success with:
AnyDVD4.6.3.1+CloneDVD 2.75
AnyDVD4.6.3.1 + Shrink
AnyDVD+ CloneDVD2
DVD43+1ClickDVD
DVD43=Shrink
So far the common denominators are: AnyDVD+ Program or DVD43+Program
Anybody using DVDClonerII with success?
Any other combos out there?
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buffy2005
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10. April 2005 @ 19:37 |
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What program can you use to back up DVD's when AnyDVD trial runs out? I at a loss with Little Black Book, and I want to back up Spangleish. Any other freebies that work? I use DVD Shrink which is a dream!
Kerry
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