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Official Spanglish Thread
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shark29
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17. April 2005 @ 22:41 |
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When I tried to rip using Decrypter v 3.5.2, I got an error saying my dvd-rom couldnt read from the device. I upgraded to the new Decrypter 3.5.4 and it ripped perfectly. Working great! Dont think the problem has been the media, rather the capabilities of the ripper used.vThe encryption is getting more and more sophisticated however.
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19. April 2005 @ 23:25 |
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A Guide to RIP "Spanglish" - http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=252299
The movie "Spanglish" was released on some bad pressings. You may have gotten one of this "badly pressed" disc, if you did the ripping process will fail no matter what program you use. Your only solution is to return the disc for a different copy. Preferably from a different store. (Reason, if 50 copies of the movie were sent to Wal-Mart, all 50 of their copies are more than likely to behave the same way as the one you returned.)
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geo7mm08
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30. April 2005 @ 07:53 |
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hi! i'm not sure if this is the right place to post this but i'm sure you'll redirect me if i'm wrong. i ripped the movie Spanglish using the latest DVDD in file mode with the default settings. now in the video folder i have .bup .ifo and .VOB files. i have been reading about the file types and want to edit the main movie. i want to cut out the first 5 seconds because it is a black screen and if i just shrink and burn the movie to dvd and try to play it my player gets hung up on that part. the player freezes if it trys to play those first few seconds; however, if i select the 2nd or 3rd chapter and rewind to just after the beginning black screen, the movie plays perfectly. i have heard that there are bad presses but seeing that i have successfully ripped the movie, i think that's out of the question. i have tried many different program orders. (dvdd > menushrink > dvds > dvdd)(dvdd > dvds > dvdd)(dvdd > dvds > nero)(anydvd > dvds > dvdd)... i have also tried using the latest VobBlanker, and again all i got was another beer coster. any help would be greatly appreciated!
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30. April 2005 @ 09:40 |
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30. April 2005 @ 11:52 |
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tuffdacat
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30. April 2005 @ 23:26 |
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The movie IS "rip-able" with the latest version of Decryptor then to shrink....just did it after many tries with other programs.
Thank you
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BiggPoppa
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3. May 2005 @ 16:47 |
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hey all
well just thought i would add my success
used DVD Decrypter then used Shrink and burned with Nero
had AnyDVD 5.1.1.1 and the newest DVD43 Free running in the background
just removed the bad sectors and got a clean burn the first time
it wouldn't work at first with my usual process of 1click dvd and DVD43 free so...i'm guessing not all programs will sort out the bad sectors....
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mle56
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4. May 2005 @ 03:26 |
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Bigg Poppa,
How do you remove the bad sectors? Give me the details step by step if you will. Thanks
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4. May 2005 @ 05:33 |
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@mle56 - DVD Decrypter will do this for you on it's own; just select all the files you need, let decrypter do it's thing to get the files to hard drive, then maybe use DVD Shrink on the resulting files.
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BiggPoppa
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4. May 2005 @ 11:20 |
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mle56 - as stated before decrypter will do this for ya, but here is a step by step process
open up AnyDVD or dvd43free or both to be on the safe side
let them crack the protection
anydvd will actually locate the bad sectors for you and let you know how many there are
open up dvd decypter, newest version, and then allow it to locate the spanglish movie, it will upload the list of all files located on the dvd and it will AUTOMATICALLY HIGHLIGHT only the good files...there will be a bunch at the bottom that are the 'bad' files...decrypter will rip the dvd and add 'dummy' sectors where needed to replace the bad ones
after you rip the files off spanglish, open up shrink and upload the file list to the program...select the backup option with burn w/nero after it shrinks and you should have a perfect backup of spanglish at the end of this process....
hope thats enough of a walkthrough for ya
good luck
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spacedust
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4. May 2005 @ 11:23 |
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Just to comment my first copy would not burn. Errors out on read at the exact same spot, running latest DVD Decrypter. I have not tried another copy of movie, I'm guessing bad pressed media. I'll let you guys know if second copy works.
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4. May 2005 @ 12:30 |
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yup, keep it simple...
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4. May 2005 @ 12:40 |
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Anydvd & DvdDecrypter Works.....As I've posted before
has anyone tried it with DVD Decrypter and DVD Region + CSS Free?
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4. May 2005 @ 12:42 |
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4. May 2005 @ 14:22 |
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AnyDVD, DVD43, or any other copyright bypassing software will %95 time cause your rip to fail with various different errors. Specially on the new AccroSS protected DVD's.
All you need is DVD Decrypter 3.5.4.0 and DVD Shrink 3.2 to backup any DVD.
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brobear
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4. May 2005 @ 19:42 |
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AnyDVD, DVD43, or any other copyright bypassing software will %95 time cause your rip to fail with various different errors. Specially on the new AccroSS protected DVD's.
I use AnyDVD as well as DVD Decrypter. I've not had any failures and I've done several of the movies with ARccOS using AnyDVD. If AnyDVD had a 95% failure rate with ARccOS or any of the other encryption systems, I doubt it would stay on the market very long, much less be one of the more popular decrypting programs.
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All you need is DVD Decrypter 3.5.4.0 and DVD Shrink 3.2 to backup any DVD.
I can see that. If one is concerned with freeware, these 2 do a decent job. You can't beat DVD Decrypter for what it does as a ripper. However, I've found some of the retail programs do a better job than Shrink. Rebuilder with Cinema Craft Encoder and DVDCopy3 from InterVideo do an excellent job.
DVD Decrypter and AnyDVD do an excellent job of decrypting DVDs. They are different types of decrypters. So, in some instances I use AnyDVD and DVD Decrypter together. I've only had one incident where I needed to turn AnyDVD off to run DVD Decrypter. It had nothing to do with ARccOS. Then it was obvious what was happening. The reason I like to use AnyDVD is because it automatically gives you a region free DVD and when the backup DVD starts, it goes directly to the menu or movie without playing the trailors. You don't get the trailor skip feature with DVD Decrypter and you have to select to get a region free disc. Also, for those who need to play a DVD from another region, it handles that situation as well. A lot of my backup work requires using hard drive files. AnyDVD doesn't rip to the HDD, but DVD Decrypter does. So, I use DVD Decrypter to rip files to the HDD. Seems there is a good reason to use both AnyDVD and DVD Decrypter together if you want the best of both.
1ClickDVDCopy doesn't handle bad sectors well at all. It'll just set and grind. With that app, I suggest doing movie only if you run into bad sectors. I tried the retail version of this program and deleted it after trying a few DVDs. The Grudge made it stop in its tracks when it ran into bad sectors. DVD43 does the same tasks as AnyDVD, but not as well and the program isn't updated nearly as fast as AnyDVD. No need to use DVD43 and AnyDVD at the same time. DVD43's only redeeming factor is that it is freeware.
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BiggPoppa
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4. May 2005 @ 20:32 |
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I was just stating my findings, and gave a walkthrough as to how I personally did my backup....but you are right about keeping it simple....it does work with just decrypter and shrink, but i never figured having the other two running as well could pose a problem, but now i know better
thank you...
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brobear
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4. May 2005 @ 20:45 |
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It doesn't hurt to run the AnyDVD all the time, it's default setting is to open at startup. With Shrink, using AnyDVD saves time unless you're wanting a HDD file to work from. The only truly redundant operation was the DVD43 and AnyDVD at the same time.
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4. May 2005 @ 23:54 |
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"If AnyDVD had a 95% failure rate with ARccOS or any of the other encryption systems, I doubt it would stay on the market very long, much less be one of the more popular decrypting programs."
I agree with you to a certain extent. I help out a the DVD Decrypter forums and cannot tell you how many times the user cannot rip the DVD cause of DVD43 or AnyDVD is running in the background. Is that their only problem? Sometimes no. But it is part of the problem the majority of the time. I honestly believe they are useful programs, just not in conjunction with DVD Decrypter (which is freeware and used by the majority IMHO).
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" You can't beat DVD Decrypter for what it does as a ripper. However, I've found some of the retail programs do a better job than Shrink. Rebuilder with Cinema Craft Encoder and DVDCopy3 from InterVideo do an excellent job.
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I would hope that they would do some what of a better job, considering DVD Shrink is/was freeware. Nero Recode is another great "Shrinking" program. Nero Recode and DVD Shrink was created by the same person, Nero Recode is the reason the development of DVD Shrink ended. (He actually got a real job. :) )
The primary use of DVD43 and AnyDVD by users is to bypass copyright protection. You do not need any 3rd party software to do this if you are using the latest version of DVD Decrypter. (Yes, they have other functions, I know.)
(As for your point about "Region Free" playing, that can be taken care of %99.999 of the time with modified firmware.)
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5. May 2005 @ 00:52 |
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even LIGHTNING UK! will tell you if you are having problems turn off any other backround programs when ripping.
Find what works best for you and go with it!
- well put wild77
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(As for your point about "Region Free" playing, that can be taken care of %99.999 of the time with modified firmware.)
- jmet, good point; i do this for any drive i buy (plus i only buy a drive if i've researched that i can get hold of region-free firmware first, from Dangerous Brothers or wherever). one less program to faff with if the drive can do this at hardware level
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brobear
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5. May 2005 @ 17:06 |
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Now that everyone has made their comments, it just goes to show differnt people have different opinions. DVD Decrypter is the best freeware program available for decrypting and ripping, bar none. AnyDVD is the best retail app, IMHO, considering the fact that it is updated much more quickly than any of the other apps; plus the control options to skip trialors is very handy. Only newbies have problems running these programs in unison. As I said, I've done hundreds of backups and ran into one problem with the two due to structural problems with the files. Deal with them as you will, however the 2 work well together, and if the user knows what he is doing, then he can turn off one or the other when a conflict arises.
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5. May 2005 @ 21:12 |
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Alone in the Dark seems to have the same problem as Spanglish. The same problem and the same answer.
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5. May 2005 @ 22:37 |
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Brobear - nicely put. i guess there are a few around here (myself included) who just don't see the need for AnyDVD when there are free alternatives. nothing against paid for whatsoever, it's just AnyDVD 'seems' to be pushed by some ppl (yourself not included, and not aimed at anyone on this post specifically) as the 'only' way to go. and as for using 58 different methods to copy a film (at same time), no wonder there are so many problems :)
@dvdripdvd - did alone in the dark too, the other day, but (groan) you just know that amongst other new films it will have countless 'i can't rip' posts started, then the merry-go-round starts again!.
ps - nice piccy from Kill Bill - fantastic film(s)
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6. May 2005 @ 08:15 |
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I give it a couple of days until the ranting and raving for Alone in the Dark. Thousands of more newbies signing up asking the same question.
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brobear
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6. May 2005 @ 09:20 |
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Creaky,
As you are probably aware, the only decent freeware counterpart of AnyDVD is DVD43. DVD43 was upgraded to handle some of the newer encryption. However, it wasn't updated until well after most of the other apps. If DVD43 was all I had, I would have been upset for some time, waiting to be able to rip some of the newer movies. AnyDVD has consistently been upgraded soon following any new encryption systems coming on the market. Lightning UK has kept up the DVD Decrypter at a good pace as well. (Note for those not familiar with AnyDVD: AnyDVD is a driver type decrypter which is different from DVD Decrypter.)
My opinion on rippers is that I like having the best, whether freeware or retail. DVD Decrypter is an excellent program and all one needs to do a successful backup. That said, I also consider AnyDVD to be an essential app. There are desirable features in this app besides the fact that it is one of the best driver type decrypters. As I noted above, they play well together. I did have the one problem, but it was apparent that it was a software conflict due to the structure of a particular movie (I forget which now). Took me all of a minute or so to shut down the app and reopen Decrypter by itself (I was needing a HD file). So, with a bit of common sense, one shouldn't have a problem using both apps. Also, as noted the reasons for using both are not just for decrypting purposes, both do a fine job of that without the other. In some instances though, I have seen where AnyDVD handled bad sector encryption better than DVD Decrypter. Both apps have undergone updates since then. What I like about the DVD Decrypter and AnyDVD is that they are updated so quickly when the need arises.
As far as pushing AnyDVD or DVD Decrypter, I just say how I find and use the apps, while trying to note any problems or good features. Newbies or anyone else can take my input along with that of others to help make their decisions. I just throw in my opinions to help round out the picture. What I state is from experience or from sources I find reliable. I will suggest the use of a good app when I find one and am not bashful in doing so. Also, I will nail a program I find less than what it should be. 1ClickDVDCopy is a case in point. I have the retail version and deleted it from my PC. Inferior video quality and an inability to cope with bad sector encryption was the reason. DVD43 I put on the if list. If they would update it more often, it would be a more usable app. But for the differences, I'll go with AnyDVD.
I also chime in when I think I can help in making a backup process more efficient. I have an extensive software library and am familiar with most of the programs. In closing I'll just say, if one wants to make a DVD and not invest in software, DVD Decrypter or DVD43 and DVD Shrink are the way to go. A lot of movies Shrink can handle on its own. For the ones it can't, DVD Decrypter has always been suggested. With DVD43, AnyDVD, or Region Free, Shrink can be run and one doesn't have to wait the 15 minutes or so it takes to use DVD Decrypter. Just trying to show there are areas where a driver type decrypter is preferrable to a ripper like DVD Decrypter. Likewise, DVD Decrypter is preferrable where one needs a HD file. DVD Decrypter has the outstanding feature of being free.
Now if I was going to suggest good transcoding/encoding software, I'd say look at DVDCopy3 and RB/CCE...
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