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Free ISO extractor of CD's?
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sdragon_
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14. April 2005 @ 14:21 |
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Hey. I'm looking to back up a lot of my CD's onto DVD's and I would like to Back them up as ISO files. I've been having problems finding a free program that creates ISO's of CD's (I would like one that does both DATA and MUSIC. Pretty much any CD). If you know of any and can give me a like to go to that would be great.
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14. April 2005 @ 14:33 |
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ISOBuster.
Black holes are where God divided by zero...
Cheers, Jim
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sdragon_
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14. April 2005 @ 14:37 |
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Ok thanks... I wasn't aware that it would actually allow you to create ISO files. Will it also do Music CD's as well?
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gotisos
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14. April 2005 @ 21:40 |
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sdragon_
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15. April 2005 @ 06:32 |
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Hey ISOBuster works great with Data Discs. But it doesn't work well with Music CD's. Hopefully CloneCD will do the trick. Thanks guys.
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sdragon_
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20. April 2005 @ 07:52 |
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To anyone that reads this... To my let down. Music CD's can't be backed up as ISO files. Well... Kind of. If anyone wants to backup music as ISO files this is what I had to do. I used CloneCD to rip music into WAV files. Then I used Nero to create a DATA ISO file storing the songs in WAV format. Keeps the quality, just not recognized as a music CD (ISO). This was good enough for me. I found a great/free Virtual CD creater (Virtual CD Control Panel) that takes up very little space and works great with ISO files. If anyone can find a program that will create ISO images of Music CD's please let me know. or a very simple/free Virtual CD creater that works with Nero images and ISO files... that would also be great
I've got it, you want it, try asking...
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MilesAhed
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10. May 2005 @ 09:02 |
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This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 10. May 2005 @ 09:05
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sdragon_
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11. May 2005 @ 13:02 |
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Cool... thanks... do you know if it will ISO Music CD's... still haven't found 0ne that will.
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MilesAhed
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12. May 2005 @ 19:17 |
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I don't see a free one. Most applications are designed to take files and burn them to an .iso image. Not make an .iso image from a CD. Some
pay apps claim to be able to convert Nero to ISO image so that might be the way to go. Is it absolutely necessary to save every bit of audio?
I don't know if there's much that's lost with mp3 at 320.
My guess is unless you're willing to pay for one of those .nrg to .iso conversion apps the only other way is rip to file and then save the files. I even tried DeepBurn freeware that claims to burn ISO images but it will only accept files, not audio tracks.
If there's something out there for free I couldn't find it. :(
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sdragon_
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13. May 2005 @ 10:05 |
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Thanks for you imput. My reasoning was to be able to load audio CD full quality through a virtual drive off an image... and the Virtual software that I currently have only supports ISO. Maybe I need to find a Virtual CD creater that supports a format that an Audio image can be made into. The one I have works great and is free. Some of the other ones that seem that would work weren't free.
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MilesAhed
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13. May 2005 @ 10:30 |
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I'm still unable to find an app that rips audio CD raw to .iso but I
did run into this page that might be of interest. It's a plug-in for
Winamp that rips audio CDs to a FLAC format that uses a lossless compression scheme:
http://flac.sourceforge.net/
Might be useful esp. if you're doing software playback on a PC.
If you find a free audio CD rip=>to=ISO app for windows please let me know. It would be worth having just for the hell of it. :)
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cuffy10
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13. May 2005 @ 15:16 |
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There is no need to convert Nero's .nrg format to .iso. The .nrg format is an .iso..... just change the extension.
You also have an option in the Save As box in Nero to save as an .iso instead of .nrg.
Daemon Tools is a fun tool too so you can open Nero files in a virtual drive.
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MilesAhed
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14. May 2005 @ 08:15 |
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You also have an option in the Save As box in Nero to save as an .iso instead of .nrg.
Hmm, that's what threw me. When I burn a DVD or VCD video using Image
Recorder it always let me choose .iso instead of .nrg. But for some reason when I did the same with an Audio CD it didn't have anything else
in the drop down list. Strange.
Also I believe I tried Daemon Tools with a .nrg image of an Audio CD
and when I tried to mount it I got an error about something in the image
not starting at offset zero and it refused to mount it.
What version of Nero are you using?
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cuffy10
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14. May 2005 @ 14:29 |
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Sorry pardner but it seems I goofed. I read the "backup my CDs" and I've been doing it for several years. The diff is I'm using data CDs and you meant audio.
I wasn't sure of anything after you said you only had the one choice in Save as so I rounded up an old audio CD, ripped it, and then burned an image file in Nero 6.6. It only gave me the one choice, .nrg, so your experience was the same as mine.
I changed the extension of the image file from .nrg to .iso without any complaints, loaded the image in Daemon Tools without any complaints.....
However, when I clicked on the virtual drive it comes up empty. D-Tools shows it loaded as Jazz.iso without complaint but nada, nothing there to work with.
Me bad. Sorry !
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MilesAhed
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14. May 2005 @ 15:41 |
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(paraphrase) Jazz.iso ... me bad sorry
If it's jazz.iso you can't be all bad dude! As you might've surmised by
the moniker I'm into Miles Davis bigtime. :) I think most of the confusion is the Original Poster is going the other way. Trying to put an audio CD on HD instead of burn an audio CD. Out of curiosity, what
version of Nero are you using? Everything later than 6603 that I've tried produces errors as soon as I drop a file on a compilation. 6603 is working fine so it's no big deal. Just worries me that something weird in my machine may not like version 7 when it comes out! :(
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cuffy10
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14. May 2005 @ 17:44 |
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I'm using Nero 6.6012 and there's an update available for this. The size of the updates is getting so large that I hesitate to try to keep up, especially using a dialup on Win 98.
Nero is a great app and I've never had any problems. I started with 4.0 that came bundled with a Creative burner and tried to keep up with the updates since. A few months ago I ran across 6.3 OEM bundle and have been keeping that current since all the updates are free.
It does good work !
Miles didn't do so bad either !!
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cuffy10
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21. May 2005 @ 12:48 |
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<My reasoning was to be able to load audio CD full quality through a virtual drive off an image... and the Virtual software that I currently have only supports ISO.>
Reading between the lines I'm going to assume that MP3 quality isn't acceptable.
I really can't hear much difference when playing music through PC speakers at low volume so you might think about a compromise on quality in return for simplicity ??
Possibilities are limitless unless you are an absolute purist so you might experiment with an idea I used several years ago for a Christmas Musak system.
I bought 10 CDs from the local Dollar Store, all different genre, with Christmas music. I ripped all ten to MP3 format then merged them all into one MP3 file which I put in an .iso file using Nero image burner.
The result was an MP3 file of about 380mb of Christmas music.
I opened the .iso file in Daemon Tools where it listed a Christmas.mp3 file. That would play Christmas music until you paid the ransome to stop it. About 110 songs as I recall ?
You could do the same thing with songs ripped from any number of CDs.
Your wave format idea would work too if you located an app that would merge the wave files ? I've never looked into that idea.
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sdragon_
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23. May 2005 @ 08:15 |
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I already did something similar... but I copied over the files as WAV which keeps much more of the quality. What I would like to happen is when I run the ISO into a Virtual CD It is recognized as a music CD and can run as such in Media players. The problem I have is as WAV files it's not view as Music CD but a Data CD, and when I run Microsoft Media Player it doesn't auto load the Songs like on an audio CD. I actually have to use file>open to run the programs. It's the same with MP3's. It's not really quality that I'm hunting for it's Convenience.
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cuffy10
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23. May 2005 @ 09:57 |
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<<It's not really quality that I'm hunting for it's Convenience.>>
The only thing I can suggest is using the "merge" idea. The more songs you merge together the longer it will run unattended. Instead of using playlists use a file that has the music merged into one mp3 long enough to run several hours. Mix and match with a tune or two from any number of CDs...... limitless possibilities ?
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sdragon_
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23. May 2005 @ 11:49 |
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here's an IDEA... I just had it... maybe if i lase the ISO with an auto run that automatically loades the songs I can get a way with using MP3 or WAV. haven't tried it... but if it works, that will be a workable solution
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sdragon_
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23. May 2005 @ 11:52 |
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Ya... that would work, but... I'm one to like going to the song I like, when I like to. I don't want to have to fast forward to the song I'm dying to hear.
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MilesAhed
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27. May 2005 @ 07:14 |
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Ya... that would work, but... I'm one to like going to the song I like, when I like to. I don't want to have to fast forward to the song I'm dying to hear.
Hmm, I'm still trying to get a handle on this "convenient" ISO handling application you want to use. Sounds like you're doing backflips to use
it to me. I don't see that copying a CD as .ISO is any faster than just copying off the files you want to play, be they wav mp3 or whatnot. Maybe if you list the "requirements" people can get a better idea what you need?
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sdragon_
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1. June 2005 @ 08:12 |
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Requirements:
Create backup files of Data and Music CDs.
Backups load like original CDs in Virtual Drive software.
Intent:
Backup all my data CDs and music CDs onto DVDs in ISO or like format.
Also include on DVD freeware Virtual Drive software to Virtually load ISO or like files into virtual drives.
Purpose:
To conveniently place all my CDs onto DVD's, so that the inconvenience of caring around 100's of CDs is reduced to a few DVD's. Yet for software convenience, CDs also load and run like original through Virtual Drives. For my own desires only, I would like to do a similar process with Audio CD's. Place multiple CD's onto one DVD capable of loading into a virtual Drive as if it were the original CD.
I've got it, you want it, try asking...
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cuffy10
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1. June 2005 @ 12:52 |
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Purpose:
To conveniently place all my CDs onto DVD's, so that the inconvenience of caring around 100's of CDs is reduced to a few DVD's. Yet for software convenience, CDs also load and run like original through Virtual Drives. For my own desires only, I would like to do a similar process with Audio CD's. Place multiple CD's onto one DVD capable of loading into a virtual Drive as if it were the original CD.
You seem to have a regular "Think Tank" going ?
Some of what you want to do is easy......
Rip all your data CDs to your HDD.
You will have an ISO file as the image for each CD that you ripped.
Once ripped you get a chance to edit the contents of each CD by opening the .iso in Daemon Tools. If you want to make any changes open a folder on your HDD and "Send To" all of the files you want to keep. Add any files from other sources. Once you have a satisfactory compilation open Nero and burn an .iso image (using Save as .iso).
Once you have the CDs all cleaned up in a similar manner you can again open Nero and swithch to DVD mode.
Make a compilation of the .iso images of the CDs to fill a 4.7gb. Burn this compilation to DVD.
If you are only looking to archive those data CDs in a more convenient manner you can dump as many as you like into one folder and burn an .iso image to store on your HDD in .iso format. The .iso file can then be opened using Daemon Tools so you can extract any/or all files to a new folder.
Your limits are, of course, limits dictated by Nero max compilation size and limits on file size that Daemon Tools will open.
It sounds to me like an extremely convenient exercise in futility.....
YMMV ?
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TekNoir
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9. June 2005 @ 02:21 |
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You cannot make an ISO image of an audio CD because the CD simply isn't in ISO9660 format (or one of its variants). CDs use Redbook Audio formatting for their file structure.
I recommend ripping to a lossless format, such as Monkey's Audio, FLAC, Shorten, Apple Lossless, WMA Pro Lossless, OptimFROG, Wavpack or one of the newer compressors and then backing up those files onto multiple CDs/DVDs. You can typically get a compression rate of between 60 and 50 per cent of the original audio file with absolutely no data loss.
For more information, you could peruse the forums here-- http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/
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