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san andreas ps2 backup-Help !!!
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burninup
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22. April 2005 @ 22:46 |
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im using the latest version of dvd decrypter at 1x read&write but no joy also have try'd different speeds-same result-coasters,my burner is : liteon sohw-1633sx ,using same method as above had success backing up my return to castle wolfenstien on ps2 so what am i doing wrong-same media everything,do i need to use different software/method .Please help i am getting very low on blank dvd's.
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23. April 2005 @ 01:43 |
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All i know is San Adreas required NO special boot method, and NO special burning instruction.
My guess is that you're having bad media. R u using Ritek? or Verbatim or Taiyo Yunden?
I burnt the game w/ Ritek and it worked like original, crazy man.
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Atom_224
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23. April 2005 @ 05:04 |
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be sure to use a type of media your ps2 can handle. Mine can take dvd-r & dvd+r. Some older ps2 can only play dvd-r. If you have had a successful backup on the same brand & type of media, I would delete the image and start from scratch. Reread & then write. It should be that easy.
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burninup
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23. April 2005 @ 09:34 |
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thanks everyone i've been and brought some verbatim data life plus dvd-r discs and they work fine, i now know it DONT pay to buy cheap discs-lesson learned.
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23. April 2005 @ 11:40 |
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Actually the cost of discs also base on the amount of ppl buy them. For example Ritek Go4 only costs me $22 for 50 discs. Now u might think they're cheap b/c they suck. But I think they're cheap b/c so many ppl use them. Therefore their prices come down so low.
I would love to use Verbatim Data Life plus too but it's too expensive.
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40ozKing
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23. April 2005 @ 13:09 |
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man everyone says, use better media, thats the cure-all for everone's problem....
well, i have been trying to backup GTA san Andreas forever now, with zero luck (dvd decrptor at 1x speed, win xp, toshiba sd-r5002 drd-rw burner, swap magic 3.3 with flip top)
i have used sony, verbatim, and ridata g04, all of these were dvd-r, same problems with all brands... either will spin really fast and make a loud noise and stop playing, or an message will pop up saying "errror reading the san andreas disc"
i have tried copying the actual game, tried a downloaded version, and a friend's copy that works fine on his ps2, same damn problems everytime
i am gonna try rebuilding it later on today using the method that was used for starwars and mercenaries, http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/127255
if that doesn't work then i give up
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23. April 2005 @ 14:47 |
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i had lots of coasters off this game but i have now got a working backup.
Leave the room while you burn it and be sure to use the very best media.
I found the slightest vibration of my pc desk made the backup un-bootable. it does definately backup perfectly from an original, i can tell you that much so keep trying - i was close to giving up myself.
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40ozKing
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23. April 2005 @ 16:38 |
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did exactly what you said, left the room as it burned, and made another coaster.
my "coasters" all boot just fine, but they fuck up during gameplay, i haven't been able to play more than 5 minutes on any of my copies before it fucks up
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craig777
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24. April 2005 @ 02:10 |
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I made a backup of this with Nero using infinti dvd-r and it works great.
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Atom_224
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24. April 2005 @ 05:02 |
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the one thing you haven't tried is playing his good copy on your machine, and trying one of your bad copies on his machine. Should help you narrow down the problem. I think with all of the media you have tried, it isn't the media. Maybe your laser is starting to go? I can't imagine a drive that just isn't burning right. But your burner could be to blame. You could have your friend try to burn you a copy and see if that works. This is a really complicated problem though, at least the game is worth it.
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40ozKing
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24. April 2005 @ 09:48 |
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i was thinking it could be the drive, mine is pretty old... i got it in december 2002, but i do have updated firmware.
i am having a problem booting many games, there are about 8 so far that just spin really fast and don't boot. san andreas does boot, but won't play without getting error messages
yeah that would be the best way to check and narrow it down, playing my copy on my friends, and his on mine... i guess i'll do that when i get the chance
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rollexx
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25. April 2005 @ 13:27 |
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Hi there!
Got the same problem, downloaded a copy of the US version from a BT site!...
Before i go of explaining things my specs are!
Nec 1300A dvd burner compatible with up to 4 x wright speed and is not compatible with Dual layer dvd medias!
I got a PSTWO(slim version) 1 week old machine and a GHOST2 chip installed with firmware 1.31 installed! and the chip was proffessional installed, so there isnt any bugs with the chip installation for sure and i have 1 year warranty on the whole machine even the laser and other components!
Media used on my ps2 discs are>>>> TDK 1-8x compatible and>>>Maxell 1-8 x compatible both types in DVD-R format! And they are not transparent discs!
Ok now to the problem!
All my other coppys of other games work great and the machine loads them without anny problems at all(about 10 other games all burned 1 time only in 4 x mode) but when i burn the coppy that i downloaded of san andreas there is shoppyness in game play! sometimes the intro movie is shoppy to, and i even got the famouse read errors!! and for the laser thing i dont realy thinks its thats what causing it! maybe some idiot fucked the iso file up then seeded it for people to download it and for the reason for people to fuck up there machines! or maybe there is some special coppy protection on it, or the iso where damaged downloaded! or damaged when seeded without the seeder knowing it!
Since the other guy used that many discs i realy think it is the iso file itself thats fucked!
I tried to burn 3 coppys using alcohol 120% and all where shoppy! and all the other games i have work perfectly without problems!
Just this mofo game that is something wrong with!
i DL`ed the San_Andreas_USA_PS2DVD-PARANOiD (not complete name of the torrent though!)
and i think this one is fucked!
im gonna try download another version without the paranoid shit init!
/rolle
hate bugs with ps2 machines...things like that pisses me off!
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25. April 2005 @ 14:45 |
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@40ozKing
if you couldnt get the backup that works on your friends ps2 to work on your ps2 then you have a ps2 problem.try playing your coasters on his ps2 and see if they work.if they do then you definitely have a ps2 problem.
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Gdash
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25. April 2005 @ 19:20 |
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I made a copy of GTA: SA and it plays but sometimes I get a read error saying trouble reading GTA: SA Cd, what is causing this problem? I uses Nero with a TDK dvd+r at 1x.
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Trainp
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25. April 2005 @ 19:21 |
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I burn gta San andreas with a tdk dvd-r at 2x speed and it works just fine without any flaws.....do u know what version ps2 you have?
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rollexx
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26. April 2005 @ 01:28 |
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hi again!
sui-cyco >>>>> not the same person! i dont know anyone of another copy of the game! and no its not a ps2 problem! im sure of it!
As i said (to be precise) all my other 11 disc who was burned with same type of media works just fine! no shoppynes or read errors what so ever!
I vote for a bad iso file for sure!
My machine is 1 week old! so....dont think so! and when all other discs reads just fine there is another isue to this in my opinion!
Why would only one disc not read properly? and even so after burning 3 copys?
i wont place that fucking version of the gta san andreas in my machine again! Im trying to DL a PAL version of the game and i bet that one works!
i also think the laser will burn out even if u dont have transparant discs! if the machine cant read it propartly then the laser is f*cked annyway! and i know the media i use work 100 percentage!
well i just have to wait till the other version is downloaded and then il post here!
I also saw today that there was no seeder left of the NTCS versions of the same torrent i downloaded! i wonder why...maybe bad iso?...damn idiots not to test the isos first...they just put things up without considering there might be some errors in it!
And there was also no leechers of the game! and i just downloaded it some days ago!
Try to dl the PAL version of the game and skipp the mofo NTSC versions out there!
/rolle
hate bugs with ps2 machines...things like that pisses me off!
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rollexx
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26. April 2005 @ 01:46 |
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Ohhha and one more thing!
got a friend with a 2 year old machine! he has trouble even get the ORIGINAL NTSC games to work!
In stores our machines are PAL! And that realy pisses my friend of when trying to load a import ntsc game! he has to restart the machines several time in order to get it to work! sometime disconnect the power cable to the machine and then try booting with an pal disc then do that swap thing!
And sometimes that dont even work!
Then a few days ago we descided to make a test on media!
since i hade some disc i coppyd twise since my machine couldnt reed them! so we tried 1 mmore disc and one maxell disc and one TDK disc!
When we tried the mmore disc who was burnt with tekken 5...the game had troubble booting like the original ntsc disc he has!
but after like 10 restarts of the machine it got in game!
We could play maybe 3 rounds in arcade mode and the screen just freezed!..and then that media was bad we figured!i even tried the mmore disc in my machine and exactly same problem there!(and the mmore disc wasnt transparent either!)
Ok then we tried the maxell disc...it was the same problem get it to boot, but after 10 times that copy also would boot(also a tekken 5 disc) but the funny part now was he played it all night long and the game never froze once! but when he restarted the machine! same damn thing! 10 times reset and power cord of!
(should say the maxell disc worked perfectly in mine though)
Now to the funny part...When we tested the his machine with TDK discs! it booted all of my freaking games directly and not frozze even one time! so sure the media is a thing to be choosen wiesly!
but i do think the machine is going to die eventually if u have read problems on a media your machine canot handle, even if the media is not transparent!
but for my friends ps2 its an realy old one and he has never switched the laser even once! sure he had problems reading some discs! but when he tried my tdk it booted like a damn new machine! so i think people can missread this things and say, my game is shoppy as hell and my games dont even boot and think its their laser thats burned!! maybe they will bot and u can play, but the types of media u might be using isnt the right ones! try another, burn another coppy of your game and im sure it will work, but sometimes your laser might be fucked! but its cheeper to buy some medias and try first! and the type of media may warry from machine to machin also i think, so there is no guarrantys my type of media will work on yours!
i could take my copy of gta san andreas though and put it in my friends machine and try it...hell should do it later today! could be there is some readerrors in the iso file! but that the slim version (V12 PS2) cannot handle! i know the laser in V12 sucks hard! but i realy dont think its my machine neither my media!
/rolle
hate bugs with ps2 machines...things like that pisses me off!
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rollexx
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26. April 2005 @ 02:43 |
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Ok now i have tested the gta san andreas on my friends machine!
And it seem to be working propetly on his machine!
But i notised the machine is constantly reading the disc! and since its a larg game i assume it has to be able to read the disc and swap from distances on the disc at a fast speed!I realy think its the game itself now or the iso! Im gonna try the pal version annyway!
I might add my friend machine is making constant noise from the laser when reading the disc! Maybe it could be corrected with another type of media, i dont know! But since i have a pstwo(V12) playstation it has know issues with a bad laser inte the smaler ps2 modells!
scph 3004 is the modell on my friends machine! the chip in the machine is unknown!
But its an realy old one tha i do know!
so conclusions is!
My friends machine can read the disc! But it makes ALOT of noises trying to! so i bet the laser is working kinda hard on his machine aswell!
/rolle
hate bugs with ps2 machines...things like that pisses me off!
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26. April 2005 @ 10:34 |
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Backed up San Andreas on Phillips 8X DVD-R
Works fine for both my PS2's (V7 and slim)?
It is a large game and can cause some problems with some PS2's
I remember when my laser was going bad (out of alignment) on my older V5 that it would play all my games, when i put in my Vice City (original) the PS2 would just flip out and have disc read error.
I agree with the above, if it works fine on your friends system and not on yours then it is either the laser needs adjusting or cleaning, your PS2 has problems with that media (which i doubt cause the rest of them work), Or it just has problems with a large backup.
Have you tried playing the original of San Andreas? Does it work ok?
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26. April 2005 @ 14:39 |
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i think san sndreas was manufactured improperly.i have the original and it played right at first.now on the cinematic scenes where they display your location in yellow type, doesnt appear.there is no skipping but it fails to display location in cinematics.the game has no scrathes either all i ever did was clean it.this game was eagerly anticipated and they might have rushed production a bit.
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26. April 2005 @ 14:46 |
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@rollexx
your making no sense at this point.you say its not a ps2 problem but yet your backups work on your friends ps2.so therefore your copies work, just not on your ps2... sounds like a ps2 prob to me.
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rollexx
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27. April 2005 @ 08:03 |
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hi again!
sui-cyco ok thought someone would ask that question!
what i ment was!
My ps2 will propably work perfect with the original disc when inserted to my machine! what i ment was for people not thinking OH GOD MY PS2 IS FUCKED UP DUE TO BAD INSTALLATION WITH CHIP or that the laser fried!OR bla bla bla!....there might be a ps2 issue but i believe its not the chip installation on the machine it might be the laser/game/media combination!! but if i bought a original i wouldnt have this discussion would i?Yes the coppie of the game did work, but as i said all other disc(same media as my other games) works at 100% believe me have tested it for about 10 hours straight with the other games, not even one error!
and like i also said! all my other games (same media) work a 100% on his machine aswell! but when it comes to the gta san andreas disc! its all these irritating errors! not on my friends system! but i can hear the laser on his system work at 100% all the time! and it make scratching noise all the time! and the laser never rests!
And i realy only tested the game for about 5 min on his though! he was in a hurry, but i gave him a coppy of my 3 discs so he could test later on! i could note to that my machine could play for about 5 min to (think it was the second coppy i made) but after those five i got read errors constantly!
and for the other guy having trouble with the original disc....there migh aswell be something with the game as well, difrent game load difrent fast on diferent machines! i know my machine has a weak laser(weak manufactured laser that is not caus its old, its a damn new machine!) i just have to test diferent medias! as for today i have 2 new types! philips dvd-r and a sony dvd-r! and i also got the PAL version of the game!
Im from sweden so my grama might suck a bit also my explanasions of things hehe =)
Im just this damn mad that this game wont work and believe me im going to get it to work today! even if i have to go buy like 20 other medias to!
i post back later!
/rolle
hate bugs with ps2 machines...things like that pisses me off!
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rollexx
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27. April 2005 @ 08:07 |
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and no i dont have an original to test :/
hate bugs with ps2 machines...things like that pisses me off!
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rollexx
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27. April 2005 @ 09:17 |
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ok now i have tested to burn the PAL version!
and it did work using the USUAL discs i use with my other games!
It laggs some in the intro sceen! but ingame there is no errors now! and i think i have a good explanasion to this!
NTSC type of games is somewhat faster than pal games! Maybe its thats what causing the NTSC versions to fail! pal versions is a bit slower and maybe the load time is better with the pal disc!?
i dunno!
but its working fine now! dont care if the intros are lagging! but the charackter intros works propertly! so im gonna stick with this disc!
and now there are no funny sounds scratshes e.t.c!
/rolle!
hate bugs with ps2 machines...things like that pisses me off!
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27. April 2005 @ 15:00 |
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gta requires alot of lens movement anyway.youll find some of the newer games are made that way.i have original and my lens is constantly moving.your friends ps2 was making stressful noises because it is probably older and needs a little oil,sort to speak.but you notice it played on his,thats all that matters.i got gta to copy to maxell 8x at 2x speed(and maxell aint the greatest disc in the world).it had problems with intro skipping,but i cleaned the lens then adjusted the lens height a little to get the lens closer to the disc,now i have no problems at all.then again sometimes very good media can solve your problems.but take notice that dvd rw drives sometimes have their own personal preferences when it comes to media.my favorite is sony dvd+r with a blue-purple tint to the data area as compared to the light purple tint that most dvd+r media has.i dont know what dye they use in their production but it works great.i never used dvd-r
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