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To label o not to label ?
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28. April 2005 @ 14:48 |
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what kind of printer do you need for printable disc?are they expensive(both the printer and discs)?
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97bullock
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28. April 2005 @ 18:43 |
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dataon premium discs are great for the price but unfortunately not easy to find.you can get 100 for about 20 quid.i used to get em for 17 quid per 100 but those days are long gone.
as for the printer,Argos sell one for 99.99 but thats probably neither the best price or printer.
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forkndave
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28. April 2005 @ 20:10 |
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Epson makes the R200/R300 series that work well. If you're in the US you can get an R200 for $80-$100. Sam's Club sells the R200 for $79.95 or something like that. I believe Best Buy is priced similarly. I've had good luck with Ritek and Prodisc (-R) and they are fairly cheap on line. I have not had good luck with Prodisc +R. The Riteks probably print the best closely followed by the Prodisc. I also have not had good luck with Optodisc.
Dave
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baabaa
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28. April 2005 @ 22:28 |
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Has anyone ever burned their discs with the labels already stuck on them?
...............PIO is no go, DMA all the way...............
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29. April 2005 @ 09:42 |
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thats funny,i was thinking about that the other day.would it make a difference if the label was on before you burn it?so the next time i burn a disc im gonna try that.i love experimenting with shit.like a kid doing a science project.
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baabaa
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29. April 2005 @ 09:56 |
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I was just wondering because the burn should take into account the label is on, and may even iron out some 'imbalance' issues..............
Worth a shot I suppose, I don't use them at all but would be interested to hear of your results.............
Good luck sui-cyco..............
...............PIO is no go, DMA all the way...............
Beware of the Pixies - they move in over night and turn your life upside down
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paiger651
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29. April 2005 @ 10:16 |
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You can get a casio thermal printer at staples for around $49.00
it will print simple text and symbols.I use this it looks great....
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29. April 2005 @ 10:18 |
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IMHO I am not sure this is such a good idea, there is a lot of heat generated inside a computer an putting a disk with a sticky substance on it will only make it get stickier, it may even shrink and cause your disk to warp.
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Cupillac
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29. April 2005 @ 10:33 |
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I use labels from one of those CD stompers.
Haven't had a problem YET. But now you guys are freaking me out. MY 30+ DVDs might end up being garbage! Yikes.
Though I have labelled some CD-Rs from a few years ago that seem to work fine.
Oh well time will tell I guess.
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rocky999
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29. April 2005 @ 10:36 |
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Here is what I do that seems to work out nicely - I use the frosted plastic "clamshell" type cases. They are very thin and allow me to put a lot of them in a custom made holder. I don't write anything on the dvd itself. Instead, I put my nice colorful label on the outside of the clamshell case. As long as I always put the dvd away before taking out another, which you should always do, it works fine. I get to use cheap labels and have nice colorful labels on my cases. I store the movies alphabetically. Also, I used to put labels on the dvds and did have problems playing some movies after the labels where on for several months or so.
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paiger651
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29. April 2005 @ 13:37 |
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29. April 2005 @ 17:31 |
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Okay I'll go against the grain here. I have put labels on all back ups. Up until Xmas all my backups (approx 250) had labels on them. After Xmas I now print directly to disc thanks to my great Epson R320 xmas gift. I have made back up's of back ups with the labels on them - some labels have been on for a year or more. No problems except for the occasionally CRC error which 99% of the time I get around by changing the settings in Decrypter. So far I have had good luck with the Neato labels I used.
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29. April 2005 @ 19:05 |
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your not going against the grain too much.i put labels on my discs too.like i was telling everyone else you have to put the labels on properly and know labels make backups harder to read so adjuting your burn settings to accomodate the labels works just fine.also some media handle labels better than others,like my sony dvd+r 4x.
anyway i tried doing a backup with the label on while burning it.it was a ps2 game,and it works fine.but now i realize that i cant make any conclusions.if the dvd burner adjusted the burn with the labels on cant be established because there is nothing to compare to.if i make a copy without the label on then put the label on and it works fine too,then no conclusions can be made.and im figuring it will work too.but anyway at least you know that having a label on while you burn doesnt prevent you from backing up a dvd.
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megabyte2
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29. April 2005 @ 19:14 |
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Hmmm I just started using labels notably Avery brand and I stick them on by hand which isnt always perfect or centered perfectly. But saying this I have installed about 100 labels and all my players including my laptop all play the disks with no errors not one. I would say use the labels as they make the copies look sooooo much better and more professional. Its hard to explain to hollywood types on the airplane why you have movies with sharpie ink on them they give you the hairy eye ball and think your blackbeard himself with all the booty in the world. But I have fooled many people with my labels as long as they dont examine them closely or turn them over etc.
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29. April 2005 @ 19:42 |
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I have read about 2 different possibilities with label playback problem. The first being the possible off balance problem. The second is possible excessive heat buildup from the label absorbing the extra heat and warping the disc. I think the second is a more common problem. When playback starts to act up and you eject the disc it usually will be very hot. Once it cools down it will play again until the heat builds up again. Does it really matter which of the 2 actually cause the playback trouble??
Some members can use labels and never see a playback problem. Other have tried using labels and have nothing but read errors. It depends on how sensitive your player is. My player will play labeled dvd's. If others borrow them they usually have trouble with the playback. I'm waiting for my present Epson printer to die so I can buy an R320. Thats the best way to go if you want to have good looking dvds.
Jerry
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megabyte2
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30. April 2005 @ 11:47 |
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Jerry I dont know about the label making the disk hoter. It also gets hotter when it trys to access a specific sector on the disk alot such as when you have dirt or finger prints on it as it scans the sector many many times. I have not noticed any warm disks with or without labels in fact mine are quite cool to the touch (room temperature) however from electronics I know that dust is an insulator and I suggest if you have hot disks you have a problem with a dirty drive or heat buildup from your components in your computers backing up into the massive space of the DVD drive. Heat will travel to any cooler area typically rising above the heat source the DVD drive is above the motherboard on a laptop and the same is basically true in a tower unit with the drives being higher than the motherboard. I never run sides to my towers and thus never have a heat related problem.
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30. April 2005 @ 13:53 |
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The information about labels absorbing heat was verified by several members on here quite a while back. Once the labels were removed they didn't get as hot and played normal. Like I stated before, it really doesn't matter what the exact cause is, either way labels cause many playback problems and for most burned dvds they shouldn't be used. If someone wants to chance the label usage it's fine by me. They just need to be aware of the possible playback issues.
Jerry
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baabaa
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1. May 2005 @ 10:32 |
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A very politically correct statement there jerry.............I agree...........
...............PIO is no go, DMA all the way...............
Beware of the Pixies - they move in over night and turn your life upside down
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4. May 2005 @ 01:30 |
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hey dont forget the new lightscribe technology.you need a lightscribe capable drive but if your willing to buy a new printer to print on disc then you might think about lightscribing.ive seen a hp lightscribe 16x dl dvdrw for $99 at walmart and the discs run $12 for a 10pk.verbatim is the only company ive seen make disc for lightsribing but im sure other companies will follow suit if the idea catches on.
for those who dont know what lightscribe is,it is a drive that is capable of "scribing" graphics on a disc with its laser.the discs have to be made for lightscribing(you cant use ordinary discs).
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5. May 2005 @ 03:03 |
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@sui-cyco
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hey dont forget the new lightscribe technology.you need a lightscribe capable drive but if your willing to buy a new printer to print on disc then you might think about lightscribing.ive seen a hp lightscribe 16x dl dvdrw for $99 at walmart and the discs run $12 for a 10pk.verbatim is the only company ive seen make disc for lightsribing but im sure other companies will follow suit if the idea catches on.
for those who dont know what lightscribe is,it is a drive that is capable of "scribing" graphics on a disc with its laser.the discs have to be made for lightscribing(you cant use ordinary discs).
Is that the CD/DVD burner that also prints laser images on the face of the CD/DVD? How do the iamages look, like normal pics or what? Are the disks the same as the printable ones like for the Epson R200?
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5. May 2005 @ 03:36 |
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I too have had some probs with labels. I noticed some of you were discussing "removing" the labels. Can someone please explain the safest way to do this?
Thanks
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5. May 2005 @ 07:22 |
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There is a citrus base product at most stores called GOO GONE. Apply enough to the label to wet it good and let it soak for 5-10 minutes. It should pull right off. If it seems to still be stuck, apply extra and let it soak a while longer. It won't hurt plastic. After the label and glue are off try cleaning with rubbing alcohol and a soft cloth. This is for the paper labels, the plastic type will be harder to remove since the GOO GONE won't soak in as easy.
Jerry
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5. May 2005 @ 07:29 |
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Thank you....I will try it
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5. May 2005 @ 10:39 |
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at camstuf
well you cant actually print color with a lightscribe.its not even printing.its "scribing" or etching.you flip the disc onto label side and then the laser etches onto it.so the image is gonna come out the color of the disc.no such thing as color-scribing yet.
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7. May 2005 @ 19:55 |
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@sui-cyco,
I was afraid of that; I just bought some removable labels for home stereo use.
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