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TANSTAF1
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11. May 2005 @ 08:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Procoder2 is very expensive. To just convert .AVI files from a camcorder, with Procoder Express do?

Does everyone generally share the view that Procoder 2 is the best, but the reason why there are so few threads on it is that due to the cost not many people have it? It seems all the discussion is about TMPGEnc or CCE SP.
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11. May 2005 @ 08:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Procoder Express uses the same engine as Procoder 2. It just doesn't have all the advanced features.

Those that own Procoder 2 won't use anything else usually. The quality is superb. It's designed for a professional audience, not the home hobbyist, thus the lack of threads.

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Cheers, Jim
massguy
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11. May 2005 @ 13:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I dont know what you guys are talking about, but I have tried dozens of mpeg and dvd encoders, and nothing touches Nero vision express 3 or Nero digital. I can convert a full 2 hour dvd movie right from the CD in 20mins with Nero encode from Nero vision express 3. A 1-2 hour divx movie can be converted into regular mpeg or dvd or Nero digital in less than 20 mins. Usually the time is 15 mins. If i were to use TMPGEnc, 1-5 hours, or 8 hours to convert a dvd movie to whatever format I'd like. I dont know about you, but the technology in the newest Nero is amazing. I can't believe the speed. Im using a P4 3.2GHz with HT. I'd have to say with one of the fastest cpu's out there a movie shouldn't take hours to convert, thats rediculous. Nero uses your cpu to its potential. In the 10 mins it took for me to create this account and write this, i just converted a 1 hour and 22 min divx movie into mpeg. Thats less than 10 mins. It goes even faster if I were to convert it into Nero digital (mp4).
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11. May 2005 @ 13:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thankyou for the Nero advertisment ;)
Obviously you've never encountered any audio sync issues, but when you do...so much for Nero.
Nobody ever said TMPGEnc was fast. By far, it's one of the slowest encoders around, although it's quality is usually fairly good (with the correct settings).

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Cheers, Jim
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11. May 2005 @ 13:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I haven't encountered any audio sync problems. I have re encoded full dvd movies to mpeg, dvd, or mp4 without any audio sync problems. As for divx, just using the AVI format can cause any video to have sync problems despite the codec, AVI is just a junk format. I have downloaded many divx movies with huge audio sync problems. Nero will encode videos and audio as they are. I just tried to re encode the movie mission to mars onthe fly from the cd with TMPGEnc, flaskmpeg, 3 1/2 - 4 hours. Nero, approxiamtely 38 mins. It does this at 70fps. While any other encoder that exists will do it at less than realtime. And this is with HE Audio encoding which takes more cpu power and time to encode. Now that is amazing. It was only a few days ago I tried Nero for the first time, and I am extremely impressed.
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11. May 2005 @ 14:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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As for divx, just using the AVI format can cause any video to have sync problems despite the codec, AVI is just a junk format.
Agreed. But even an AVI with perfect sync, can go totally sideways in Nero.
thanks, but no thanks.
Even the free VSO is better (and fast).

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Cheers, Jim
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11. May 2005 @ 16:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Your wrong there. None of my videos that have been converted with nero have any issues whatsoever. I just tried the free VSO. It is not better or faster. It encoded my video at 60fps 1 hours required to convert vs nero at 30mins. I get 100fps encoding speed with nero which equals to less than 30mins to encode a full movie. I dont know about you, but i dont want to wait hours or more to convert a video when it can be done easily with nero in any format you want, and the quality is the same or exceeds vs other programs that require huge amounts of time.

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TANSTAF1
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12. May 2005 @ 04:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Rebootjim,

In an earlier reply as to one possible reason why a Procoder encoding gave poor results you said, " You must have set Canopus for 2pass Mastering quality. "

Seemingly for any encoder that offers two passes rather than just one, two passes would be better than one. Are you saying that one CBR encoding is better than two VBR encodings?
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12. May 2005 @ 07:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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None of my videos that have...
Exactly, none of YOUR videos...
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and the quality is the same or exceeds vs other programs that require huge amounts of time.
Great! If the quality is acceptable to you, that's all that matters.
I do this professionally, and Nero is NOT a high quality encoder.
We wish you the best of luck.

@TANSTAF1, I was referring to the length of time it took, not the quality. There are NO hacked versions of Canopus that work properly. Either they are extremely slow, or extremely low quality, or both.
Buy it, or forget it.

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Cheers, Jim
 
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