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Bad Ritek ridata G04's
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bim123
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9. May 2005 @ 05:24 |
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Bought 100 Ritek Ridata 4x DVD-R G04's from meritline and have had more error bad sectors on them then I have actually burned. I have 27 coasters so far, and about 12 good burns. They were .43 which isn't that cheap. I bought them because everyone here recommends them. I use Decrypter and shrink and use a gateway computer. Could anybody point me in the right direction? I've tried to burn in both 2x and 4x with the same results.
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oxide2004
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9. May 2005 @ 06:04 |
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You shouldn't get any bad sectors on Ritek G04's, I've used them as my first DVD media to burn too and have NEVER had a bad sector on any burns, I use them for ps2, DVD's and ISO backups, may be you got a 'bad batch' of DVd's/ your dvd writer has problems/ the files you're trying to burn have errors/ corrupt... What type of file are you trying to burn? Also what is your DVd writer etc...
Have you tried other DVD media too? As you put Ritek g-04's are the best, one of the best for money anyways.
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bim123
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9. May 2005 @ 06:22 |
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Used maxwell and had 6 coasters out of 15, burning iso files from shrink, some dvd's burn fine and others have errors for the same file, burned one movie fine and took 5 dvd's to burn it again. The burner is a TSST Corp. what ever that stands for , came with the gateway.
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JLebowski
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9. May 2005 @ 07:49 |
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i would say your problem might be the burner. You can get a great burner from newegg.com for $50-60. (NEC or Lite-on)I have about 75 G04 that have burned flawlessly and about 100 TY and Fuji that have also burned without problem. I have never had a G04 coaster. The new burner night be worht a shot
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babelfish
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9. May 2005 @ 08:16 |
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on the purple dye are there any 'speckles' artifacts etc?
i bought some aritas a while ago (G04 i think) that had a bad dye and they have been problematic since.
just bought 100 TY from a good dealer - will see how they go..
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bim123
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9. May 2005 @ 08:22 |
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with the maxwells the last 6 in the pack burned great in a row. Have not had 6 of the G04's burn in a row yet. Am going to the store latter to get some Verbatim's, bought the dvd+r the first time, burned great but player won't play +r.
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babelfish
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9. May 2005 @ 08:23 |
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remember to get the AZO else you might as well buy any old shite.
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bim123
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9. May 2005 @ 08:32 |
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will it say it on the package? If not what else is good my burner seems to be a samsung.
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bim123
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9. May 2005 @ 08:50 |
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Just tried to burn to the dvd+r that I have from verbatim and it burned flawlessly. It would lead me to beleave that I somehow got a subpar batch.
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babelfish
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9. May 2005 @ 23:57 |
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i have had what i can only assume were fake ridisks before.
they had no MID code and the writable surface didnt like the pen i normally use on other ridisks i had bought before.
the good verbatim have metal AZO on the tub
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10. May 2005 @ 00:29 |
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bim iam sure you can return the ritek for a credit call meritline and talk to them about it . and i also have used the Ritek many times without problems other than maybe a few bad burns which were probably my fault. and oh yeah thats Maxell NOT Maxwell LOL
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pieman
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10. May 2005 @ 00:40 |
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This is exactly the reason I moved from ritek and onto ty and verbatim mcc.Ritek based discs ie ridata, traxdata etc were fine for a while, and then bad burns arrived.The manufacturers would throw in b and c grade discs into the packs, some visibly faulty and some not.These were sold by the same suppliers id been using, who had been supplied by the same suppliers they were using.So whenever i bought these discs i would never know what id be getting.Typical of a greedy industry i guess.So,having switched to ty and verbatim i know what im getting.Great discs.Every one.If they cock up then its operator error.Ok so they cost a bit more but as always you get what you pay for.(most of the time!!)
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rooney8
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10. May 2005 @ 01:28 |
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my ritek always end up with superb quality
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pieman
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10. May 2005 @ 04:30 |
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Lucky you!!hope theyre still ok in six months.How many have u burned?
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pieman
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10. May 2005 @ 04:31 |
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and which brand using ritek dye?
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11. May 2005 @ 10:03 |
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bim123,
Are those G04's branded Ritek Ridata's? Have you flashed to latest firmware update? Since your set-top player doesn't like +r media and you decide to buy a new burner I would recommend a NEC or pioneer for -r or a benq or litey (for +r) so you can booktype your +r media to dvd-rom.
I started having some problems with ritek dvd-r's too but switched to their dvd+r's and never had anymore problems. My burners perform better with +r media and besides I booktype them dvd-rom (most compatable format). I now use only verbatum datalifeplus's or ty's.
If you buy some verbatums make sure they say AZO dye on the package. Good luck.
Mort
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oxide2004
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11. May 2005 @ 11:30 |
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Now you know your burner might be a Samsung that says it all... I've had 2 Samsung CDR writers and a CDR reader, all of them broke after 1-2 months... I've used plextor and pioneer for more than 2 years and have had no problems at all.
Your problem is either on the discs, bad dye, scratches, fake ones, cheap media or it's simply the writer... Or it could be something simple like you haven't put buffer underun error? Don't know if that's an option on DVD writers just a guess... As some one mentioned above a newer, better DVD writer is a good idea, Lite-on is a bit crappy though.
Pioneer and plextor are great DVD writers to use.
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11. May 2005 @ 12:38 |
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My vote would go to plextor first (even though there have been some reports of problems on some late models and one of my buddies had to return his within a week for a new one), and second would be benq since they both support dvd-rom booktype setting for +r/rw media. Although I prefer my benq for burning, I still like my litey for ripping (almost twice as fast as the benq) and scanning for PI, PIF errors with kprobe. Plextor has a nice scan utility with plextools. I am not a pioneer fan although I hear they perform well with -r media.
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jrg9662
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13. May 2005 @ 03:20 |
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bim123, I have had the same problem with the DVD-R GO4 Ritek's from Meritline. Many,many coasters while using them. In my opinion overall Verbatim has been the best DVD-R for me.
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13. May 2005 @ 17:13 |
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Ridata 4x will burn happily at 8x, so the discs should not be the problem.
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This is exactly the reason I moved from ritek and onto ty and verbatim mcc.Ritek based discs ie ridata, traxdata etc were fine for a while, and then bad burns arrived.The manufacturers would throw in b and c grade discs into the packs, some visibly faulty and some not.
That just aint true. Ritek corporation will not throw in b and c grade discs at all. In fact, if you buy a Traxdata, you are getting the best quality Ritek DVDR made. If you buy a RiData, the same applies. They are the same disc bar packaging. Conrexx are the European distributors for Ritek. If you are having problems with Ritek, contact the Floris Evers at Conrexx and he will help sort them...
Chris
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pieman
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14. May 2005 @ 06:09 |
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ORIPHUS!! Oh gracious one! where have u been!!Nice to hear from you!!Re the above...im only going on what ive experienced and been told from where ive bought my discs.Either online or at computer fairs.To be fair, I cant be arsed to send them back if theyve been posted time/cost etc but i take them back if bought locally.All the ritek based discs ive had recently until i switched were unreliable and wo betide trying to copy from them at a later date.These were all branded and packaged and the real thing.Traxdata,ridata, ridisc (yuk) Arita (double yuk)ANV, Datasafe, Datawrite,4x 8x go4/5 dye just cant trust them.Yet stick in a ty or verbatim (Mcc) fine! smooth speed and data transfer good pifs etc (so i believe)and months later no problems, as good as the day burned.Same programs used, same pc.Just my opinion!
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caylan
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14. May 2005 @ 17:12 |
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May I have some hard data to backup the backlash everyone is giving ritek?
I have burned over 1500 Ridata G04 dvd-r with only 17 coasters (15 of my fault, 2 due to dye issues) so I would like to know where some of you are getting the information that all Ritek is shit?
Sure we all have issues backing up data to media, but 90% of all issues are human error related. Example: I have a cake box of Fuji 8x dvd-r on my self. If I try to burn at 8X I get a coaster everytime. If I burn at 4X I get a coaster 25% of the time. If I burn at 2x perfect burn everytime. Is it the media's fault that I can not burn at 8x. No. Its mine because I no doubt have an hardware issue either with my bios out of date/conflict, drive issue, motherboard issue, etc. If I really wanted to burn Fuji dvd-r's I would fix the issue. But I am like everyone else here, I switched media to something that is compatiable with what I have instead of addressing the hardware issue.
Now there is shit media out there and you get what you pay for. But to claim that Ridata G04 is crap and will quite working in six months as pieman stated:
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Lucky you!!hope theyre still ok in six months.How many have u burned?
is way out of line. I have been using G04 for almost a year now, and my son's favorite dvd was one of the first dvd's I backed up. It has now been 11 mos. With over 200 playings of the same backup and movie still play as good as the day I burned it. Guess it lasted longer than 6 mos pieman.
Back to bim123 question, check your bios for your dvd drive. Being a box computer I would guess that your bios is out of date before it was shipped to you from the manufacture. Update the Bios and your likely to have fewer coasters.
Happy burning.....
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16. May 2005 @ 02:03 |
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ORIPHUS!! Oh gracious one! where have u been!!Nice to hear from you!!
lol - cheers Pieman, you still causing trouble over here ;-) Only kidding, how you keeping too? I've just been busy i guess with my girlfriend, uni, work, holidays lol, only really been using the PC for DVD backups...aherm...so i guess thats it :D
I see what you are saying with the Ritek's you have been having problems with. Just be aware that some Traxdata, RiData, etc can be copied and arent the original thing, very hard to tell them apart. I would drop an email to Floris Evers at Conrexx and voice your concerns with him, you can tell him i (Chris McCann) told you too incase he's wondering why you are contacting him. You do seem to have been infortunate though.
As Caylan says, i too have bee extremely happy with Ritek and have hardly ever had a dodgey burn. My discs started to skip badly, but soon realised it was my trusty Marantz DV4300 on the blink, so i updated and have had no probs since.
Chris
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pieman
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16. May 2005 @ 15:27 |
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Good to have you back.Glad to see your guides are available again....will help a lot of newbies like they helped me.Nice One.Its real strange that ive had grief with ritek based dyes, I have no explaination apart from what i was told, and what i had experienced.Even my new favs verbatim can be quite differant still with the mcc dye...ive got some made in taiwan where the dye spreads to the edge, and some made in india where the edge is clear.Bout time you brought your own out eh?? :)
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17. May 2005 @ 07:34 |
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Cheers Pieman. As for me bringing my own disc out lol, i doubt i could afford the overheads for an operation like that, though i did look into it, at the same time is was branding my own Plasma TV's. 12 people in the UK have a CMC branded OEM Plasma Screen (CMC - Chris McCann). Was produced at a cost of $911 per screen and sold for $1400 per screen. Once warranties were arranged and postage costs covered, i made a tidy $250 per screen, multiplied by 12 giving me around $3000. It was a lot of work to set-up though.
I considered doing the same thing with DVD Media, and to try and get a good deal from Ritek (Conrexx). However, i think i needed to be buying amounts in the 100,000+ range to benefit in terms of cost per unit and sales. A bit like what dvd-and-media did with the CloneDisc. With the rapidly changing Media environment, and the fact i didnt have the outlets to shift 100,000+ DVD's fast enough, i decided against it.
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