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JNavas
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11. May 2005 @ 11:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Note: This report pertains to TMPGEnc 3.0 XPress, not TMPGEnc or TMPGEnc Plus

When attempting to encode 23.976 fps XviD sources (as verified by GSpot 2.21) into DVD-compatible MPEG2, TMPGenc 3.0 XPress incorrectly detects the source frame rate as 30 fps, resulting in jerky MPEG2 output.

These XviD sources play perfectly in a variety of players, and encode properly in NeroVision Express 3.

There appears to be no way to override the incorrectly detected source frame rate in TMPGenc 3.0 XPress, and there doesn't appear to be any reasonable work-around.

This problem exists in version 3.0.4.24 (original release) and version 3.1.5.82 (latest version as of this writing) of TMPGenc 3.0 XPress.

Codecs: XviD-1.0.3-20122004 _Final Release_
XviD-1.1.0-Beta2-04042005 _Beta Release_
Platform: Windows XP SP2 on a 2 GHz Mobile Pentium 4
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11. May 2005 @ 13:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Going from memory, is there not the option to choose 3:2 pulldown?
If not, you could use DGPulldown on the file.

Black holes are where God divided by zero...
Cheers, Jim
JNavas
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11. May 2005 @ 13:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Going from memory, is there not the option to choose 3:2 pulldown?
There is indeed such an option, but it doesn't help when the source frame rate has been detected incorrectly.
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If not, you could use DGPulldown on the file.
I don't see how that could solve the problem of incorrect source frame rate. Are you guessing on this as well, or have you actually tried it? ;)
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11. May 2005 @ 14:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just a suggestion, as nobody I know uses Express, because of it's lack of features/control, and if encoded right, you don't need dgpulldown, although it SUPPOSEDLY will do what you want.

Black holes are where God divided by zero...
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11. May 2005 @ 14:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Just a suggestion, as nobody I know uses Express, because of it's lack of features/control, and if encoded right, you don't need dgpulldown, although it SUPPOSEDLY will do what you want.
How could DGPulldown SUPPOSEDLY do what I want? For it to do any good I would need a correctly encoded Progressive MPEG2 file, and that's not going to happen with the incorrect source frame rate.

Apart from this particular issue I personally find TMPGEnc 3.0 XPress to be quite capable, which is why I think this particular issue is so unfortunate.
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JNavas
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20. May 2005 @ 08:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Note: This report pertains to TMPGEnc 3.0 XPress, not TMPGEnc or TMPGEnc Plus

When attempting to encode 23.976 fps XviD sources (as verified by GSpot 2.21) into DVD-compatible MPEG2, TMPGenc 3.0 XPress incorrectly detects the source frame rate as 30 fps, resulting in jerky MPEG2 output.

These XviD sources play perfectly in a variety of players, and encode properly in NeroVision Express 3.

There appears to be no way to override the incorrectly detected source frame rate in TMPGenc 3.0 XPress, and there doesn't appear to be any reasonable work-around.

This problem exists in version 3.0.4.24 (original release) and version 3.1.5.82 (latest version as of this writing) of TMPGenc 3.0 XPress.

Codecs: XviD-1.0.3-20122004 _Final Release_
XviD-1.1.0-Beta2-04042005 _Beta Release_
Platform: Windows XP SP2 on a 2 GHz Mobile Pentium 4
UPDATE: This problem can be solved with AviSynth! Use AviSynth (2.5.5) to frameserve the XviD source into TMPGEnc 3.0 XPress, and TMPGEnc 3.0 XPress will then properly encode DVD-compliant MPEG2 and AC-3 audio output that will be smooth instead of jerky!

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 20. May 2005 @ 08:36

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