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Ludikhris
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29. May 2005 @ 17:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Its acutally untrue. Its an industry norm that each console is a loss, last I heard Nintendo was the only company that had really softened the blow too. Sony and MS both have high loss per console... (of course this only applies to first release, it would obviously lessen as time passes and technology advances) and I cant remember where I read it, but as far as I read Microsoft never recovered there initial costs in developing XBOX (ill post it if I find it) however there is no doubt they wont recover this time due to
- it is not their first console so there are less costs
- they WILL sell more consoles this time anyway you look at it

during release each company loses about $100+ per console

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29. May 2005 @ 17:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok here ya go... REAL NUMBERS!!!
Im just dropping this down as proof that nobody is going out of business. Many people are spreading rumors that are groundless about Nintendo following Sega and that Sony is going under. These numbers prove a much different story. The real important number is "Net Income after Taxes"

Nintendo
http://www.hoovers.com/nintendo/--ID__41877--/free-co-fin-annual.xhtml

Microsoft
http://www.hoovers.com/microsoft/--ID__14120--/free-co-fin-annual...

Sony
http://www.hoovers.com/sony/--ID__41885--/free-co-fin-annual.xhtml

Ok so this DOESNT prove that a company is or isn't leaving the game industry (it kinda does for Nintendo seeing as how they are pretty much only a gaming company), and it doesnt show how well each are doing comparitively as per game consoles. I would also like to remind you all that it has no bearing on which console is going to come out on top (its not like Sony and MS are going to drop out of every other industry and focus all their capital on their gaming console) but it certainly shows you that rap4life is wrong and that all three companies are going to be around to launch the new systems and most likely continue supporting them.

Ludikhris

Notice a trend in Nintendo's earning and profit margines? That doesnt look safe, but they will still release their stuff ontime and all. Im kinda thinking that Nintendo will be a good stock investment, they may pull a fast one as far as profits are concerned.
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"Unit sales of Sony's PlayStation 2 console rose 77 percent from a year ago to about 333,000. By comparison, Microsoft Corp. (MSFT.O: Quote, Profile, Research) Xbox unit sales were 153,000 and Nintendo Co. Ltd's (7974.OS: Quote, Profile, Research) GameCube unit sales were 63,000 -- down 49 percent and 35 percent, respectively." - global unit sales for last month.

"As a quick comparison, the PS2 outsold the Microsoft Xbox by almost three to one, and outsold Nintendo's GameCube by over five to one. Considering the price differences, the technical inferiority of the PS2 and the strength of its rivals' first party line-ups, this is an incredible result for Sony, and it's almost hard to believe that the company has had such unprecedented success with a machine that had such a difficult launch period." - europe stats.

couple of facts which support Playstations dominance.
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none of those links worked :)

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couldnt get it to work bubba....
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sorry about that guys. I'm working on fixing the problem now. Have to change Image hosting sites.
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mikey88, see how much the ps2 outsold the gameboy by.....that's right, it didn't. The gameoy is the most selling system ever. Nintendo has a huge fanbase, but they're starting to lose them because of all of these damn mario games. I never liked mario, i liked the legend of zelda. actually, the legend of zelda is my fav. game series.

However, nintendo said they would have more than 5 new mario games at launch. what the hell is up wtih nintendo and mario?????
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Ok so this DOESNT prove that a company is or isn't leaving the game industry (it kinda does for Nintendo seeing as how they are pretty much only a gaming company), and it doesnt show how well each are doing comparitively as per game consoles. I would also like to remind you all that it has no bearing on which console is going to come out on top (its not like Sony and MS are going to drop out of every other industry and focus all their capital on their gaming console) but it certainly shows you that rap4life is wrong and that all three companies are going to be around to launch the new systems and most likely continue supporting them.
im wrong lol.no sony is not leading in any of its sales expt they console and u dont make good money in console. Any thing that show Sony losing money, shows that sony cant affored a large amount of PS3. The PSP was a bad bad idea for Sony. many PS3 will be sold in Japan. Japan will have the 1st pickings of the PS3 which should take more then any other contry. just a recall for sony will cost too much.
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Sony Hit for $90.7 Million in Immersion Lawsuit
SCEA ordered to stop selling PS2 consoles and controllers.

March 28, 2005 - The PS2 console and Dual Shock controller could soon become collectors' items. Immersion Corporation, a developer of touch feedback technology, has been awarded $90.7 million in damages for a patent infringement suit against Sony Computer Entertainment of America, Inc. and Sony Computer Entertainment, Inc. Along with this, the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California has also issued a permanent injunction against the sale of consoles, controllers, and 47 games that have been deemed to have patent infringements as well.
gear.ign.com/articles/599/599431p1.html

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MS jun04 8,168 net income After taxes
Sony mar0 894 net income After taxes
nitendo Mar04 315 net income After taxes
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30. May 2005 @ 00:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
1/10 of one years annual income? That won't put a business out. Look at Microsoft, they ate a loss on the XBOX and still made a new one. I really am not trying to straight up defend Sony, I will own both XBOX 360 and PS3 in time, its just that Rap4life's and many others arguements against Sony seem very very groundless to me. Look at the airline industry many of those companies take loss after loss year after year and are still in business. I couldnt find a year when Sony put a loss on the board. Rap4life, I will quote you that Sony will be broke by the time the PS3 gets launched (you asked) cause it just doesnt make any sense to me that they would be out of business, the numbers dont make any sense, read the annual balance sheet for Sony. And you can quote me that they will still be in business to launch PS4 (or whatever they call it) in at least a contention spot for head of sales. Though my ammatuer forecast is for them to still be #1 by the time that round comes out.

Sony isnt the first company to get sued, its going to happen, and yes it will hurt them profitably. However it wont stop them from selling a butt load of consoles because most consumers don't really care.

http://www.hoovers.com/sony/--ID__41885,ticker__SNE--/free-co-fin...

Take a look at that stock chart, they take a hit in mar/apr (contributed by the lawsuit and a sagging stock market at the time) but have since recovered some of it and are continuing an upward trend, that doesnt sound like a company on the verge of defaulting.

Give me some credit, I am a marketing/econ double major. They are far from dying.

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Rap4life you need to get your facts straight. who ever said the ps3 will sell for $500, they are aiming for $299 to keep the price reasnoable. Also where the hell does hitler enter the arguement you dumbass. Other than that, get some more sources. Don't rely on xbox.com and M$ to give you non-biast information.

WVengance, i mostly agree. But isn't it cool to be able to have all those multimedia options without extra gadgets. And sony online is unproven, might be good, might suck. I hope it lives up to live, otherwise i will be envyous when i get the ps3.
The blu-ray might not be a bad thing, the dvd was successful even though most people believed it would never happen. The extra storage is also excellent for future games. Also the ps3 will be (rumours here) able to rip dvd films and convert to hd. then be able to burn them back onto dvd's. (not blu-ray though :(. And it does support dvd games aswell for those producers who don,t want to use blu-ray.
Ok so the bluetooth was not the best of ideas, but as you yourself said, even 4 is enough. When it comes to HD, the prices will fall. Rapidly. As prices always have on electronics.

Yes the GB has outsold the ps, but only by1 million. The total gb sales including gb, pocked, colour and advance is 183 million. Ps ans ps2 sales reach 182 million. And ps is younger than gb, and will overtake them very soon.

WVengence, good arguements. Rap4life, unserious and bias arguements. Get some more points of view fanboy. Dont rely on xbox.com and M$ for info that is not bias.

NOONE.......
PS3 rocks....
Ok so the 360 is a nifty piece of kit aswell..
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As a quick comparison, the PS2 outsold the Microsoft Xbox by almost three to one, and outsold Nintendo's GameCube by over five to one. Considering the price differences, the technical inferiority of the PS2 and the strength of its rivals' first party line-ups, this is an incredible result for Sony, and it's almost hard to believe that the company has had such unprecedented success with a machine that had such a difficult launch period." - europe stats
does this show how many x box's compard to PS2 were sold in the us and not in europe or asia
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Last I had heard (almost a year ago) total unit sales put Sony at about double what MS and Nintendo had sold put together. Just stating what I read, sorry I cant jot down where I read it, some game magazine.
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When Sony is saying the the PS 3 will kill the 360 people said it, ur the bics one. i look at both fact, how do u think i found this web site i went to yahoo search and typed Xbox360 vs PS3. i Saw both sides and the 360 will be mine. If sega had a new console at the sametime as the 1st xbox came out i would have got the Sega. If PS3 fans can say stuff about 360 why can i say the opps. And sony will lose money because the PS3 like the xbox360 and most consoles will lose money. $500 comes from sony need to make money faster, at MTV.com about E3 said it will be atless $364. the PS3 will cost more then the xbox. i cant buy both i only could get one like most of poor america. I only care What i will like more, the PS3 controllers look bad, ok i thought the X box controller will be big but now i love them now unlike the PS2. The hitler thing was wrong im Sorry, but i just used true fact about that;)
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Thx for stating the exact numbers for incomes on the three big guys rap4life. Remember though, all three companies sell more than just consoles. The idea is not that those numbers are product specific but that all three companies are well in the green still and definitly will not shut down. We all knew Microsoft made more than Sony which made more than Nintendo. Ill see if I can get numbers on the consoles, that may be harder to find though.
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Last I had heard (almost a year ago) total unit sales put Sony at about double what MS and Nintendo had sold put together. Just stating what I read, sorry I cant jot down where I read it, some game magazine.
i now but i was saying is that most Xbox's we sold in the USA unlike PS2.
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Thx for stating the exact numbers for incomes on the three big guys rap4life. Remember though, all three companies sell more than just consoles. The idea is not that those numbers are product specific but that all three companies are well in the green still and definitly will not shut down. We all knew Microsoft made more than Sony which made more than Nintendo. Ill see if I can get numbers on the consoles, that may be harder to find though.
I went to a web site that said sony lost 1.3 million to a Cell phone recall but i cant find it anymore.
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And another one that say Sony other thing arent saling as well, and they buy US stuff to put in their products then sale them in the US
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I dont have any Sony products most are cheap, and i dont know if a 10 year old boy made it, so i can save money
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the 360 are tring to get the PS People by making cartoonish RPG games will Japanese companies.
only X BOX 360 RPG.
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XBox 360?s Compatibilities
Posted in Microsoft Xbox 360 News by VG King on the May 26th, 2005
Fresh news about the XBOX 360 directly from E3 2005:

Apparently, gamers from the E3 are getting a picture in their minds of the XBOX 360 being multi-compatible with various handheld devices. No, not just Microsoft handheld devices.

Screenshot of Microsoft?s Doings at E3 2005:

Image Provided by IGN and GameSpy.

What?s this? XBOX will have the compatibility to connect to Apple iPods, Sony PSPs, and more?

So far?the XBOX 360 is looking pretty decent. Microsoft has really thought about making this one of the most unique and powerful next generation consoles to be on the market.
http://microsoftxbox360.info/?p=35
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$500, i think not. The price is extimated by sony at $300. That may change, but most ppl won't pay much more than $300 anyways. Well i would but there ya go.
Don't underestimate the fanbase, which ps has a lot of. There are more ps fans than xbox fans, even in the US.
I don't like xbox partially because of M$, but mostly because i think that ps is the better way to go. It has more good games suck as the ff series, mgs series, gt series etc. The ff series is coming to xbox, but several years late^^

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PS3 rocks....
Ok so the 360 is a nifty piece of kit aswell..
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ok. finally got the article posted properly. you can get it here.
http://www.ccsau.com/bubba/
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Don't underestimate the fanbase, which ps has a lot of. There are more ps fans than xbox fans, even in the US.
I don't like xbox partially because of M$, but mostly because i think that ps is the better way to go. It has more good games suck as the ff series, mgs series, gt series etc. The ff series is coming to xbox, but several years late^^
the 360 will have 200 games after its 1st year. They are going to Have alot of games for only X Box360 like, 60-110 will be only for 360
and u will be able to play ur fav music on it. With New RPG 360 will have depth with qullity. MGS looks it wont be fun at all. it looks cartoonish in game play. Like a japanses cartoon.
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- The 360 plays Progressive-scan DVDs, CDs, MP3s, VMA files and more
- Customizable faceplates for the 'box and "skins" for the interface screen
- Rip CDs directly to the hard drive to create custom soundtracks
- Connect to your PC (360 will stream the digital media from your desktop) and share pictures, audio, whatever with your friends
- Plug in the 360 camera peripheral for real-time video chat

- IBM PowerPC based CPU with three cores at 3.2 Ghz apiece
- 500Mhz ATI graphics processor with 10MB DRAM
- Detachable, upgradeable 20GB hard drive
- Three USB 2.0 ports
- Built-in Ethernet port
- Built-in 802.11a, b, and g Wi-Fi
- All games support16:9 widescreen, 720p and 1080i resolution (and standard definition output)
- 48Khz 16-bit audio, 32-bit processing and over 256 audio channels

- Dozens of game-makers have signed-on to make games for 360 - look for launch titles from Microsoft, EA, Activision, THQ, Majesco, Tecmo, Sega and others
- All 360 games in high-definition with widescreen and multichannel surround sound
- Accepts four wireless controllers at once
- With Xbox Live Gold, a subscription service, multiplayer action, stats and tournaments are at your command
- Xbox Marketplace gives you downloadable levels, weapons, maps, episodic content, costumes
Believe it. We're nearing the end of the lifespan of another videogame console. This means both die-hard players and weekend warriors will soon be sacrificing hefty chunks of life to prettier, faster, cooler games, movies, music and downloadable goods that'll make your current console look about as sophisticated as an Amish buggy ride. Well it's your lucky day, here's the detailed download on what to expect from the next-generation Xbox.
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