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Official PS3 vs. Xbox 360 vs. N. Revolution
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AfterDawn Addict
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27. June 2005 @ 04:54 |
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Given Sony's track record, I wouldn't be surprised if the PS3 was delayed, but I would be surprised if it was delayed such that the 360 came out more than 12 months before it. The (above $500) figure is pretty gruesome, but very feasible and probably means about £400 here in the UK, hence my PS2's got to last me a few more years yet!
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WVengence
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27. June 2005 @ 06:12 |
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27. June 2005 @ 07:30 |
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dlm, yeah they support DRM we know. What it will allow and not allow, such as straight MP3s hasn't been specified. But look below, he states "MP3", if protected it would take on another file extension.
18:30 in to the conference about. He mentions MP3 even during gameplay. I watched it once and knew this part was between 15 to 25 minutes in.
Fanboy is a term used to describe someone who is utterly devoted to a single subject. This generally is followed by the devotion and support even when proved wrong.
Anecdotal, by my definition, it's the way too many people here think. It's also all the evidence you have.
Xbox 360 GT: NEGATIVE 273K
My advice: Wait for PS3.
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WVengence
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27. June 2005 @ 07:32 |
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There are some moments when it's really fun to be me...
http://www.joystiq.com/entry/1234000207048052/
Seems like MS might one up Sony on this... Not only can you (possibly) use the PSP but also the DS to play 360 games.
P.S. Thanks for the time reference. I'll check it out.
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27. June 2005 @ 08:11 |
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1. Rumors
2. If Microsoft pisses off Sony enough, they can just have a "security" update to the PSP like the ones I have already done three of, to disable communication between the systems. That is unless the Xbox 360 runs windows XP, then it might be more difficult. But, the 360 can be recognized as such, and can still be denied compatibility, if Sony chooses.
Example, Sony wants a Windows OS for PS3. Microsoft says screw you. Sony says screw you and puts out a "security" update. If recognized as Xbox, then display error and shut-down. Very Very simple for Sony to do it, then they just deny deny deny like always. Say you just won't update your PSP. Upcoming online games, require the latest updates.
3. Rumors, as is the above speculation. Very simple though, dirty yes, but if I worked at Sony I would gladly work on it, if MS won't co op. Idenifying it as the an xbox is the hard part, but can be done.
Fanboy is a term used to describe someone who is utterly devoted to a single subject. This generally is followed by the devotion and support even when proved wrong.
Anecdotal, by my definition, it's the way too many people here think. It's also all the evidence you have.
Xbox 360 GT: NEGATIVE 273K
My advice: Wait for PS3.
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WARKILL
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27. June 2005 @ 10:30 |
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XBox-360 has the PS3 beat in the proccessor area (for shure).Cell has always been an over-hyped technology and having 7 dsp is NOT a big deal.Ive seen some wannabe techies wronfully claim these are different CORES???WTF are you thinking they dont act like cores or even perform to a fraction of what a core can do!!To put this more clearer they basically are mini(About 1ghz each)helpers for the real SINGLE core.
Guys its not as simple as adding the ghz up and claiming outrageous clock speeds 10+......But the graphics CHIP(not card) on the ps3 is slightly better NOT because of the core mhz(Like many stat hoars think).Its because its based on a newer generation post 7800gtx using the LATEST shading Tech.X360 uses post-x800xt gpu with a tech that SIMULATES shaders but actuall does a good job with.Weaher sony has a better gpu it really isnt a big advantage.STOP CLAIMING CRAP U DONT KNOW
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27. June 2005 @ 10:33 |
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great, another noobie that comes strait out says something that has been proven false in the past 30 pages, but hes to lazy to read them.
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xboxfool
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27. June 2005 @ 10:58 |
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lol i think it would b a real slap in the face to sony if MS made the XB360 compatible to the PSP and the DS.
I'm rootin for ya MS!
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xboxfool
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27. June 2005 @ 10:59 |
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o and by the way MS has just realesed sumthing saying that the XB360 will b backwards compatible with SUM xbox games
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27. June 2005 @ 11:15 |
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what a fool! ha
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xboxfool
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27. June 2005 @ 11:17 |
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y u say that?
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28. June 2005 @ 02:27 |
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In an interview with TheStreet.com, Take-Two Interactive CEO Paul Eibeler tells the online publication that the home for the next Grand Theft Auto installment has yet to be determined.
Eibeler told TheStreet that the company is taking a "wait-and-see" attitude to the market and will study it to see whether an exclusive deal will benefit the company.
The Grand Theft Auto franchise is a monster series that has sold over 40 million units worldwide. The last three installments were locked in exclusive agreements to debut on Sony's Playstation 2, helping the company acheive a dominant position in the last video game wars. The titles were eventually released to Microsoft's Xbox and PC.
An exclusive deal with a console manufacturer to debut the next installment could be a major factor in next-generation console sales. Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo are all striking deals to have games appear only on their next-generation systems in order to secure games that can't be played on rival systems.
Pubishers will take a more careful approach to development in the next video game wars. As development costs skyrocket in the competitive game market, sales are far from guaranteed and publishers must devote resources wisely. Midway recently announced that it would have launch titles for the Playstation 3 but not the Xbox 360, although the company does have titles in development for Microsoft's next-generation machine.
As for when Take-Two will release the next Grand Theft Auto, Take-Two's Eibler said that the company has not yet announced one and that they are still enjoying the sales of San Andreas.
http://news.punchjump.com/article.php?id=902
xbox360.im going to get AOE3 every one should buy one when it comes out.
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28. June 2005 @ 11:10 |
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to reasons?: i'd believe all of that. It sounds very sony and MS respectively.
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WVengence
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28. June 2005 @ 14:27 |
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This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 28. June 2005 @ 14:32
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28. June 2005 @ 17:21 |
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That's nice, I thought it was a real building for a second.
I think Sony will do it, if MS won't make a windows for it. It's their style.
Wow, another nub. Am I blind or did he say the the SPEs were "mini something" and 1GHz. In a sense they are mini compared to the PPE, but that's hardly a word someone older than 10 would use to describe them. They run at 3.2GHz. The specs shouldn't even have to tell you that, they are going to match the PPE either way, and the PPE is 3.2GHz.
Fanboy is a term used to describe someone who is utterly devoted to a single subject. This generally is followed by the devotion and support even when proved wrong.
Anecdotal, by my definition, it's the way too many people here think. It's also all the evidence you have.
Xbox 360 GT: NEGATIVE 273K
My advice: Wait for PS3.
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WVengence
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28. June 2005 @ 18:11 |
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Just to clarify, Reasons... Are you saying that Sony will make a windows for the PS3 if MS won't?
A Fanatic is a person who won't change his mind and can't change the subject.
Glory be to fanboys of consoles everywhere for giving me something to read and laugh at while I drink my morning coffee.
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meach8706
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28. June 2005 @ 20:26 |
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I've been reading people's opinions on which new system will be better and I have my own opinion of some of the issues. From what I know ps3 has shown their full hand already and held nothing back as far as graphic and speed capability. Xbox 360 on the other hand is not completely done, the graphics are actually better than what they've shown so far and they may change some things for the final product. Plus most of the trailers i've seen for xbox 360 are in-game, which means thats what it will really look like. On the other hand ps3 has been showing mostly movie trailers and it is always true that the graphics in the real game play aren't as good as the movie trailers. As far as game library, people are leaving out a lot of good games. There's more than just Halo although Halo on its own should be enough. I'm pretty sure all of the Splinter Cell's are amazing and of course there's more. Not to mention every sports game that comes out usually is on both consoles. As far are games that are on both pc and the xbox, it comes down to a matter of opinion. I actually prefer playin halo, doom 3, and morrowind on the xbox over the pc.
I own all the current systems and to this day prefer xbox, and i will stick by that with the new xbox 360. Deep down I'm actually a Nintendo fan and always have been, I hope someday they catch up. Zelda all the way.
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zforester
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29. June 2005 @ 02:31 |
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I've been watching this forum closely since it's creation from the outside and I've finally decided to drop in my change and tell you how I feel about the 2 systems. It seems that both systems are running at nearly similar maximums, and in terms of numbers both seem to succeed where the other one fails and taking the current videos into consideration I'd have to say that they have all been created with devkits that mimic what the maximum possible outputs of the the system are. Sadly I'd have to say that we probably won't even be seeing 50% of that for quite a while, and in terms of the actual final product the devkits are far superior to it. Every system that has ever been created has boasted about amazing numbers before it was released and then it turns out the numbers aren't even half of what they originally thought they were going to be. So from an independent standpoint I'm going to have to say that it seems like Microsoft is purposefully running on currently standard computer technologies that I could see coming together, and Sony is working with experimental and unstable technologies that they hope to perfect before release. If I can, I'm going to buy both systems and I think that both of them will have their own great games, and people will end up buying multiple consoles for it. The only drawback I'm seeing is that I think I'll have to have my PS3 serviced a hell of alot more than my 360.
Mess with the best, DIE LIKE THE REST!
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xboxfool
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29. June 2005 @ 06:31 |
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was that pic for the ps3 or the xb360? either way it was amazing fooled me at first into believing it was real.
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WVengence
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29. June 2005 @ 06:44 |
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That is Project Gotham Racing 3 running on a 360 Beta kit...
A Fanatic is a person who won't change his mind and can't change the subject.
Glory be to fanboys of consoles everywhere for giving me something to read and laugh at while I drink my morning coffee.
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xboxfool
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29. June 2005 @ 07:32 |
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nice
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29. June 2005 @ 10:42 |
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No, I was refering to screwing MS over with PSP connectivity. Sony can't make a windows for it, that was a dumb question. If they could make a windows for it they wouldn't be including Linux.
Fanboy is a term used to describe someone who is utterly devoted to a single subject. This generally is followed by the devotion and support even when proved wrong.
Anecdotal, by my definition, it's the way too many people here think. It's also all the evidence you have.
Xbox 360 GT: NEGATIVE 273K
My advice: Wait for PS3.
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AfterDawn Addict
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29. June 2005 @ 11:02 |
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Hmmm, had i not known it wasn't real, i would have been fooled briefly, and although it does look good, it's not totaly real, i don't like the reflections in the windows...
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dlm
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29. June 2005 @ 18:00 |
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dlm
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29. June 2005 @ 18:26 |
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zforester said:
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I'd have to say that they have all been created with devkits that mimic what the maximum possible outputs of the the system are
so you think MS claim that their alpha kits are running at 1/3 power of the final hardware is bs? Got anything to back up your claims?
From what I have read the 360 dev kit is probably running a single conventional 3.2mhz dual threaded processor (probably an out of order processor rather than the in order processors in the final spec) with a graphics chip close to the final spec (but without the EDRAM and maybe with a reduced instruction set??). that probably translates to something over 50% (not the claimedd 1/3) of the final spec unless you can optimise use of the extra cores. But I don't think i can agree that the current 360 dev kits are superior to the final spec based on available information. otherwise you are just speculating based on past console releases which aren't necessarily indicative of the next generation.
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