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DVD Ripping slowed down...
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lanche19
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12. May 2005 @ 20:43 |
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Hello
I recently had my main hard drive fail, so I had to put my system together from scratch with a different hard drive.
I don't know what I did, but somewhere along the way after reinstalling windows xp, I have dramatically reduced the speed at which I can rip a DVD with DVD Decrypter.
I have an older model TDK DVD RW drive (model 420N). I use DVD Decrypter for ripping, TMGenc for authoring, and Nero for burning.
Ever since I got my computer back up, I cannot rip any discs faster than 2.0X speed. It's like the burner wants to, it will start at 1.7, move to 1.8, etc up to 2.0 than the light on the DVD Rom goes out for a split sec and it drops back to 1.7 and slowly moves up gain to 2.0 before repeating the cycle. I have also noticed that when now ripping, it's taking up a large amount of resources because everything else on the computer slows down.
There was a time I used to rip at 3.0-4.0X speed range, than I think I got a firmware update or did something (I can't remember now) to where I could consistently rip at right around 5.0X speed all the time.
I've already read a bunch of threads on this issue. I first made sure than DMA was enabled, and it is albeit DMA Mode 2. I made sure I had TDK's latest firmware for the drive) which has not been updated) recently and flashed the drive, I even tried the firmware version before and nothing helps. I played around with some of the setting on DVD Decrypter, I took a CD-RW drive off the cable and made the DVD drive the one and only master device, etc.
At this point I really at a loss to figure out why my drive is reading so much slower. The board in my computer is the same, the drive has not changed, yet it seems to be limiting itself to a 2.0X rip speed. By reinstalling everything, have I somehow reactivated some sort of copyright limitation for ripping that I had disabled before without my knowledge?
Any suggestions of tips would be most appreciated. I was happy with my DVD drive before and I don't want to have to go out and get another just for this reason alone.
Thanks
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13. May 2005 @ 01:37 |
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Did you convert your hard drive to NTFS or leave it at FAT32?
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13. May 2005 @ 03:52 |
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Since you put in a new hardrive make sure your DMA settings have not been turned off, and that you are not in PIO.
Enabling DMA settings
In Win95/98/ME the DMA settings can be found at: Start->Settings->System Control->System->Hardware->DVD/CD-Drives->(Name of the Drive)->Properties
There you should find a field called 'DMA'. There is a checkbox on the side of this entry. If 'DMA' is checked, everthing's fine. If not, check this box, close all windows and reboot the PC. After that DMA is active for this drive.
In WinXP/2000/2003 the DMA settings can be found at: Start->System Control->System->Hardware Manager->Device Manager->IDE ATA/ATAPI controller
Here is a guide to show you
http://home.comcast.net/~bbmayo/DMA.html
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lanche19
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13. May 2005 @ 04:43 |
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I converted it to NTFS. Should I not have? I had read that was the way to go over FAT32.
I have checked DMA, and although the screen is not the same that I see elsewhere for Windows XP, it says it auto detects and "DMA if available" I believe.
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lanche19
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13. May 2005 @ 15:38 |
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I'm still trying to solve this problem.
When I'm ripping my CD's, I'm getting surges in CPU usage from 3% of system resources up to 40%every few seconds during the ripping stage. It goes up, down, up, down, almost synchronizing with the DVD attempts to read in a few second bursts. While this is happening, the computer is almost unusable because the screen is freezing every few moments as I type this out.
Help.
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lanche19
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13. May 2005 @ 15:39 |
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What is PIO?
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13. May 2005 @ 16:19 |
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PIO
Short for Programmed Input/Output, a method of transferring data between two devices that uses the computer's main processor as part of the data path.
DMA
Short for direct memory access, a technique for transferring data from main memory to a device without passing it through the CPU. Computers that have DMA channels can transfer data to and from devices much more quickly than computers without a DMA channel can. This is useful for making quick backups and for real-time applications.
Some expansion boards, such as CD-ROM cards, are capable of accessing the computer's DMA channel. When you install the board, you must specify which DMA channel is to be used, which sometimes involves setting a jumper or DIP switch.
When ripping and burning you will use most or all of your CPU, you should not be multi-tasking, in otherwords do nothing else while doing your backup.
Read this guide, it has all the basics
http://www.dvdplusvideo.com/dvd_tech.html
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lanche19
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13. May 2005 @ 18:01 |
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OK, I think I'm making some headway with this.
I believe it has something to do with this DMA or PIO option. I went back and uninstalled all the IDE controllers and let windows reload them. They all reloaded and defaulted back to Ultra DMA 2 except for one IDE channel, the one that is hosting my two main storage drives (160 Gig each, Western Digital and Maxtor) So I'm assuming the "clog" in my system is that the computer is not writing at a DMA level to the hard drive, it's trying to do that in PIO mode and slowing everything down.
Both of these large HDD's are operating off a single Cable set as slave and master, both plugged into a Maxtor ATA 133 card. Could the fact they're both on one cable be causing this? The Maxtor card has two slots on it, should I plug each HDD into it's own slot instead of how they are now as master and slave?
I tried to set that IDE channel to DMA but Device Type defaults to "Automatic Detection" that I can't change, Transfer Type is "DMA if available" or "PIO Only" and I have DMA selected, and current transfer mode is on PIO Mode.
Suggestions?
(thanks by the way for all your help to this point)
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14. May 2005 @ 04:42 |
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Try Scuba Pete's Instructions
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To enable DMA mode using the Device Manager
1. Go to "My Computer, ""System Tools," "View System Information," then System Properties, "Hardware," Then Open Device Manager
2. Double-click IDE ATA//ATAPI Controllers to display the list of controllers and channels.
3. Right-click the icon for the channel to which your burner is connected and select Properties. Now click the Advanced Settings tab.
4. In the Current Transfer Mode drop-down box, select DMA if available if the current setting says, "PIO Only."
If the drop-down box already says, "DMA if Available" but the current transfer mode is PIO, then the user must "toggle" the settings. That is, change the selection from "DMA if available" to PIO only, and click "OK".
Then repeat the steps above to change the selection to "DMA if available".
OPTION: Right-click the burner and select "Uninstall" and then "OK" all prompts until the PC reboots. Upon rebooting, the PC should "find" your burner and reinstall it setting it by "Default" to DMA.
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lanche19
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14. May 2005 @ 11:52 |
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After much trial and error, I figured out the problem. Although my DVD drive was DMA enabled, my two big storage drives were not. They were connected to the board via a ATA 133 Bus Card. So first, I needed to find the drivers for the board to support DMA transfer from the bus, which I did, and still no luck. Then, I had to search and find the drivers for the card itself, which took awhile, and install those. After these steps (and lots of misteps in between) I got my DVD to rip at the normal speed I was used to.
Most lay people are not going to know you need all these different drivers for different systems and components to get everything to work correctly. Hopefully people who are having these problems themselves will find this forum and my little adventure into computing will help them out.
Thanks again for your assistance to get me on the right track.
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14. May 2005 @ 15:14 |
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Glad to hear your problems are resolved, happy burning :-)
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