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How do I save/view Nero log file???
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31. May 2005 @ 14:10 |
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After I burn, there are balloons with "i's" in them, but I am not able to double-click or open them. I want to copy this log to forward to someone... Any help would be appreciated...
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31. May 2005 @ 15:02 |
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A better log that Nero makes is usually located here: C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\NeroHistory.log
Convert PAL to NTSC or NTSC to PAL------>http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/167922
ScubaPete's guides------>http://www.dvdplusvideo.com/tutorial007.html
Bbmayo's guides------>http://home.comcast.net/~bbmayo/index.html
My ever-growing movie collection------>http://www.intervocative.com/dvdcollection.aspx/squizzle
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31. May 2005 @ 15:26 |
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Thanks... Now I need to learn to interpret them.
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31. May 2005 @ 15:32 |
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Can someone point me in the right direction concerning viewing/analyzing graphs to interpret the quality of burns? I think I read on here that a lot of people use DVDInfo. Hopefully, there's also a tutorial somewhere that can breakdown PI's, etc; and tell me what is fair, good, excellent, etc. So far, I am just burning and skipping through discs to see how they look... They look good so far, but I can't watch every burn in it's entirety, and I know the graphs, etc are more efficient... Thanks...
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31. May 2005 @ 18:16 |
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post your log here and we will try to help you out. Edit out your serial number too. It's the big number in the beginning.
There's a proggy called Kprobe that will get your graphs you are looking for. As far as reading them though, your guess is as good as mine.
Convert PAL to NTSC or NTSC to PAL------>http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/167922
ScubaPete's guides------>http://www.dvdplusvideo.com/tutorial007.html
Bbmayo's guides------>http://home.comcast.net/~bbmayo/index.html
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31. May 2005 @ 19:15 |
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Do KProbe, DVDInfoPro, etc only work with certain drives? I tried using the disc quality test in CD/DVD Speed with Nero, but I didn't get any readouts. I did get the little curve graph on the first set of tests ( transfer rate, access/seek time, CPU usage, etc). Anyway, log follows (I edited out 95 lines of that same "queue again later" message):
Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 10/26/2004 12:35:32 PM
Nero version: 6.6.0.5 (Nero Express)
Recorder: <PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109> Version: 1.50 - HA 2 TA 0 - 6.6.0.5
Adapter driver: <> HA 2
Drive buffer : 2000kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
CD-ROM: <SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SN-324S>Version: U303 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.6.0.5
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1
=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : HTS548040M9AT00 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SN-324S atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SN-324S D: CDRom0
PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109 F: CDRom1
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AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 1023MB (1047924kB)
Free physical memory: 604MB (618548kB)
Memory in use : 40 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)
27.5.2005
UDF/ISO compilation
5:11:37 PM #1 Phase 112 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
DVD-Video files reallocation started
5:11:37 PM #2 Phase 114 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)
5:11:37 PM #3 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6168
Iso document burn settings
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Determine maximum speed : FALSE
Simulate : FALSE
Write : TRUE
Finalize CD : TRUE
Multisession : FALSE
Burning mode : DAO
Mode : 1
ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
Character set : ISO 9660
Joliet :FALSE
Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : FALSE
Allow more than 255 characters in path : FALSE
Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE
5:11:37 PM #4 Phase 111 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
DVD-Video files sorted
5:11:37 PM #5 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127
Reader running
5:11:37 PM #6 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122
Writer PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109 running
5:11:37 PM #7 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3286
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)
5:11:37 PM #8 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3286
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)
5:11:37 PM #9 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3155
Turn on Disc-at-once, using DVD media
5:11:37 PM #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 257
Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
Last address to be written: 2253273 (500:43.48, 4400MB)
5:11:37 PM #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 269
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)
5:11:37 PM #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2310
Recorder: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109, Media type: DVD-R
Disc Manufacturer: TYG02 -
Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193
5:11:37 PM #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 431
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
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5:11:37 PM #14 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 829
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 2253424 (2253424) = #2253424/500:45.49
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2253424 blocks [PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109]
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5:11:37 PM #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1042
Prepare recorder [PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
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MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4615012352, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
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__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
2253424 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
5:11:37 PM #16 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Caching of files started
5:11:37 PM #17 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4042
Cache writing successful.
5:11:37 PM #18 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Caching of files completed
5:11:37 PM #19 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Burn process started at 12x (16,620 KB/s)
5:11:38 PM #20 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2604
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0
5:11:38 PM #21 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2260
Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode
5:11:38 PM #22 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 21060
Set BUFE: Buffer underrun protection -> ON
5:11:38 PM #23 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2401
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes
5:11:38 PM #24 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8332
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 5
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 0 h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 0 h
Start sector number of the next Border-In: 0 h
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
5:11:38 PM #25 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1284
17:11:38.531 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H2 T0 : Queue again later
5:12:02 PM #26 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1284
17:12:02.859 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H2 T0 : Queue again later
5:12:08 PM #123 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1284
17:12:08.828 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H2 T0 : Queue again later
5:12:08 PM #124 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1284
17:12:08.890 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H2 T0 : Queue again later
5:12:12 PM #125 SCSI -500 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1432
SCSI Exec, HA 2, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x036D0000
Status: 0x02 (0x03, SCSI_ABORTED)
HA-Status 0x10 (0x0A, SCSI_HASTAT_REQUEST_SENSE_FAILED)
TA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
Sense Code: 0x26
Sense Qual: 0x02
CDB Data: 0x2A 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x8F 0x60 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0xF0 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x26 0x02
5:15:33 PM #126 SCSI -500 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1432
SCSI Exec, HA 2, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x036D0000
Status: 0x02 (0x03, SCSI_ABORTED)
HA-Status 0x10 (0x0A, SCSI_HASTAT_REQUEST_SENSE_FAILED)
TA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
Sense Code: 0x26
Sense Qual: 0x02
CDB Data: 0x2A 0x00 0x00 0x0F 0x47 0xC0 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0xF0 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x26 0x02
5:18:47 PM #127 SCSI -500 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1432
SCSI Exec, HA 2, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x036D0000
Status: 0x02 (0x03, SCSI_ABORTED)
HA-Status 0x10 (0x0A, SCSI_HASTAT_REQUEST_SENSE_FAILED)
TA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
Sense Code: 0x26
Sense Qual: 0x02
CDB Data: 0x2A 0x00 0x00 0x21 0x71 0xC0 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0xF0 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x26 0x02
5:18:58 PM #128 SCSI -500 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1432
SCSI Exec, HA 2, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x036B0000
Status: 0x02 (0x03, SCSI_ABORTED)
HA-Status 0x10 (0x0A, SCSI_HASTAT_REQUEST_SENSE_FAILED)
TA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
Sense Code: 0x26
Sense Qual: 0x02
CDB Data: 0x2A 0x00 0x00 0x22 0x45 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0xF0 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x26 0x02
5:19:00 PM #129 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 116
<PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109 > start writing Lead-Out at LBA 2253424 (226270h), lenght 0 blocks
5:19:00 PM #130 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion
5:19:00 PM #131 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2642
EndDAO: Last written address was 2253423
5:19:18 PM #132 Phase 37 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Burn process completed successfully at 12x (16,620 KB/s)
5:19:18 PM #133 Phase 78 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Data verification started
5:27:33 PM #134 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion
5:27:34 PM #135 Phase 80 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Data verification completed successfully
Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\ADPU160M.SYS': Ver=v3.60a (Lab01_N(johnstra).010529-2218), size=101888 bytes, created 8/17/2001 3:07:32 PM
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158), size=95360 bytes, created 8/3/2004 11:59:44 PM (Adapter driver for src)
Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)
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@teflonmyk - i'm sure your name seems familiar - i must have replied to one or more of your posts methinks...
Anyway, i saw the the words Nero log and PIF so thought i'd chip in (see my sig by the way for KProbe scans). KProbe i think is only really for Lite-on drives (my Sony is a rebadged litey so i'm ok), however nero cd-dvd speed i think produces similar graphs.
I don't follow what you mean by balloons with i's in them, so forgive me if i state the obvious i'm just gonna go right thru the log and see what i can see -
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Recorder: <PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109> Version: 1.50
- firmware seems up to date - http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/service/support/article/0,,...
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Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
Last address to be written: 2253273 (500:43.48, 4400MB)
- this is saying the media's outer edge is 4489MB, and you're attempting to write 4400MB to this disc, ie very close to edge of disc. If you use DVD Shrink, set the target size lower, i personally have mine permanently set to 4300MB, regardless of media used.
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Disc Manufacturer: TYG02 -
Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193
- these 'appear' to be Taiyo Yuden discs of some description, but can't prove that just from this media code (see my sig for horror stories re MY problems with Bulkpaq TYG02 if you like). What exact brand did you buy ?
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Burn process started at 12x (16,620 KB/s)
- good grief why so fast, try a lower speed for better burns/successful burns
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5:18:58 PM #128 SCSI -500 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1432
SCSI Exec, HA 2, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x036B0000
Status: 0x02 (0x03, SCSI_ABORTED)
HA-Status 0x10 (0x0A, SCSI_HASTAT_REQUEST_SENSE_FAILED)
TA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
Sense Code: 0x26
Sense Qual: 0x02
CDB Data: 0x2A 0x00 0x00 0x22 0x45 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0xF0 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x26 0x02
- a few of these to me look like your burner is having trouble with that media
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5:19:18 PM #132 Phase 37 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Burn process completed successfully at 12x (16,620 KB/s)
5:27:34 PM #135 Phase 80 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Data verification completed successfully
- Nero would appear happy with this burn, but as i've pointed out above, there's a couple of things i'd tweak..
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1. June 2005 @ 05:01 |
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must agree with creaky. 12x burnspeed wow. slow is good 2.4x - 4x it's a case of the totoise and the hare.
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Thanks for the info guys. Creaky, you saw my post when I was struggling with 1 Click DVD Copy. There are some issues with Copy to DVD, so, right now, I am ripping/compressing with 1 Click and burning with Nero. I have to find the area in 1 Click to adjust "Last address to be written." I am using the shiny silver top 8X -R TY's I got from SuperMediaStore.com. That was my first successful burn. I have been burning at 8X from that point on. Actually, those burns don't have any discernable flaws that I've seen from viewing them. BUT, I will definitely slow it down!!!
I think I read somewhere in one of these forums that all drives do not support error reporting... Is that true? I know in Nero, when I do the Disc Quality Check, I don't get any info... Is there any software compatible with the DVR-109 (as far as error reporting)?
Thank you guys for all of your input and help. I am looking for a way to see how good a burn is without sitting down and watching the movie!!! As far as tips and tweaks go- pour them on. I'm all ears!
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@teflonmyk - i'll see if i can get someone who has burnt a mere one or two TY discs, to comment on the speed with which to burn TY's..
(my first batch of TY will be arriving today so i'm not qualified to comment further)...
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1. June 2005 @ 06:16 |
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has someone summoned me???
anyways, i have the same pioneer dvr-109 as you and i have used MANY TYs in the past and currently~ :P
i PERSONALLY suggest you burn at 8x, with quality media such as genuine TYs (i don't feel the need to burn at 4x or slower because the media was MEANT for the rated speed by manufacturer and with countless "overburns" i have on Taiyo Yuden media, they will definitely hold up to the max manufacturer's rated speed)...i am assuming the ones you purchased from supermediastore are the 8x Taiyo Yuden shiny silver tops? i can burn these at 16x on my pioneer, which i HAVE, but, i just don't like to take that risk of possible burn errors due to the very high speed~
keep the burns at 8x if you have the 8x TY from supermediastore, if you purchased the 16x TYGO3s..then i can say you are safe with your 12x start speed~ :P
i tried to "overburn" (meaning faster than suggested rated speed) the 4x TYGO1s from supermediastore and i have burned them perfectly at 8x and 12x, but, i can't quite get it up to 16x on the pioneer :P
guess they weren't meant for THAT sort of speed increase~ anything past triple the rated speed is crazy media in my opinion~
anyways, to make a long story short, my 8x burns on the 4x TYG01 are flawless too, no playback issues and the quality is good. at the 12x speed, i saw SOME pixellation during the playback, but, that is completely natural since i tripled the speed of what it was intended for, i did it for fun just to see what would happen :)
so, as long as you are using the ever so popular 8x TYs...you can safely burn them on that pioneer @ 8x with perfect playback, i have well over a thousand burned at 8x that are flawless on this media. i even burn my 4x dvd-r TYs @8x, i've tested about a dozen dvds at this speed with identical results as if i were to burn @4x~ also, when i burn dvds, i don't much multitasking in the background, i have found that when i have a lot of other things going on, it SOMETIMES affects the burn quality, not often, but SOMETIMES. :)
hope that helps a bit~ my recommendations are based SOLELY on the assumption you are burning on the 8x TYs purchased from supermediastore~ if you bought the 4x dvd-r and are burning at 12x, i would DEFINITELY say 8x is safe, but, 12x is too fast~ :)
good luck~
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Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
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1. June 2005 @ 06:18 |
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I think I had the burn speed set on maximum on that 12X burn. This Pioneer can burn 8X TY's at 12X. Looks like the consensus is 4X - 6X in the other forums (that is not specifically, TY though). I have a 50 spindle of the 8X TY's and 25 16X Verbs....
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1. June 2005 @ 06:20 |
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you see, it needed that kivory666 touch!.
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1. June 2005 @ 07:21 |
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@kivory666. hi i don't want to give out misleading info. iv'e been using verbatim and ritek G04-r till now and have just started useing ritekGO5-r printables. from what you say do you think i'm out of date and should start burning faster. creaky rates you very highly so i would welcome your opinion
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1. June 2005 @ 07:29 |
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hi gurnard
i don't think you are out of date and i have had quite a lot of experience with the Ritek G05s, non printables, but same nevertheless~
if you want the peace of mind for flawless playback, then i would suggest you continue to burn at the speeds you currently use, if your process and technique works, why change it if time is not an issue for you~ you want the best possible quality from the media used, so stick with what you know :)
i burned all my G05s @8x with perfect results, so i know from experience that the media is of a good quality to produce those results. suggesting to burn slower at say, 4x or 6x is for the peace of mind of obtaining those results, it's just a probability factor, burn slower=less chance of burn errors~ makes sense, i like to live on "the edge" with my burning, so i opt for the 8x on ALL my 8x rated media~ that's just me, i have the confidence in the media that i use and purchase to burn flawlessly each and every time.
i don't know if that really answers your question or not, but i know from my OWN experience, i have burned the Riteks @ 8x w/ VERY GOOD results, only coaster i ever got was due to "user error" -meaning MY fault~ :)
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Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
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1. June 2005 @ 08:27 |
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@ kivory666. thanks for your reply, i will give it a go tonight. 6 or 8x times hear i come:) @ creaky i havent threwn verbs over the side yet
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1. June 2005 @ 09:36 |
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well i'm finally home. just working thru any afterdawn replies in my inbox. Couple more to check and i can start using some of these new-fangled TY discs that have just arrived. These have on the inner ring, the code 'GG00107', so i'm gonna search for it in a bit.
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1. June 2005 @ 18:20 |
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those are legit buddy, don't worry about that~ TYs always have the GGxxxxxx or GDxxxxxx on the inner ring/hub, you have to start worrying when you get letters and numbers like -8x 34985092 xxxx or whatevers...that's what i have on my FAKE TYs~ :P
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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