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DVD Decrypter -- gone forever

article published on 6 June, 2005

Not really a good way to start a new week -- this just came in via our news submit (thanks Shoey): Hello world, I've got some good news and some bad news. Let's start with the good.... (tumble weed passes by)Ok, and now onto the bad: DVD Decrypter 3.5.4.0 is the last version you'll ever see.We hoped this day would never come, but it has, and I can promise you, nobody is more gutted about ... [ read the full article ]

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fishbulb
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6. June 2005 @ 14:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
DD and DVD Shrink are basically the only programs I've ever recommended to people. I've used them for virtually all of my backups. I just wonder about how long DD will keep working sufficiantly from this point on. As far as Hollywood goes, this just gives me more reason to avoid going to the movies as much as possible! It seems like every year ticket prices go up while quality of movies goes down. Think about it, for a family of four it would cost at least $30 (American) to go see ONE movie. Non-matinee of course, and that's not even including snacks! Four "small" drinks alone could cost $10! I couldn't even begin to guess the cost of everything else since I never buy anything when I actually do go. Sorry, I didn't mean to get off a rant.
Sorry to see DD go, Lightning UK. I hope you find an equally enjoyable endeavor that helps people out in one way or another like DD did. Even if you have to charge for it, because I think you've earned that.
Personally, I'm going to keep using and recommending DD until it becomes completely obsolete.
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6. June 2005 @ 15:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
well, this is a very unpleasant surprise. I really don't blame him for not fighting either. I honestly don't know what to say, it feels like a funeral in here. I'll bet it was Sony too. I was going to buy a PS3, now I think I'd rather give my money to Bill Gates. I'm just glad my PS2's modded, hehehe.
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6. June 2005 @ 15:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
God Bless you
Trom
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6. June 2005 @ 15:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sad, very Sad, the Bas!ards. Anyway thanks for all the great work over the years and for producing a great product and making it freely available to all. Respect.
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6. June 2005 @ 15:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
"F" that company that shut down DD. I am so sick of Hollywood bullies crying about how they are losing money. How about MAKE A GOOD "F"ing MOVIE! I wern't to see EP III on saturday and I noticed something really funny in the lobby - every poster was for either a sequel or remake - NOTHING ORIGINAL (Harry Potter 4, Duece Bigelow 2, Zorro 2, Bewitched (Not a remake), Bad News Bears, Dukes Of Hazzard). And they expect me to pay money for that crap. Interesting. Hollywood cries that they are losing money each year. QUIT PUTTING OUT CRAP! I'll be more than happy to support the next "genius" that devises a next gen DVD Decrypter type program! VIVA-LA DVD BACKUPS! "F" the MPAA and SONY just for the hell of it (and also for making crap movies like Little Black Book!)
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6. June 2005 @ 15:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I has to be SONY. Think about it. Decrypter is the only free util that cracked SONYs new encription this year. So who else could it be.

Now lets assume that these corprate asses succeed in getting such copyrite protection worldwide. How much do you want to bet that people would quit buying the copyrited material? Why should you be forded to buy the material a second time because you lost it or it became damaged. I see nothing wrong with makeing backups. You watch the backup and store the original in a safe place, So when the copy is damaged you just simply pull out the original and make another copy.

I would just say Boycot all Copy protected material now. They would see what hurt would be put on them if the comstomer just quit buying. It realy is comming to the point where we will have to do just that. No laws are broken and Hollywood is hurt. Continue the boycot until they gid rid of these stupid greedy laws. I know it wont happen. To many people want thier movies and realy dont care about the battles.

-Del
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6. June 2005 @ 15:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
All the best for creator of DD!! To those ffockers who are behind his troubles here is my massage. 90% of my DVD collection are originals. FROM NOW ON ALL MY DVD's WILL BE COPY'S !! Lick you !! You won nothing!
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6. June 2005 @ 15:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I just read some of the post's at cdfreaks.com and - aȰ- makes a good point.
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"The domain name will be transferred over to the company by the end of the week (9th June, according to the undertakings I have to sign)... With 3.5.4.0 being the last version, it makes sense for everyone to disable the check for new versions feature, as obviously there won't be any."
Guys, take this serious! Disable the Autoupdate function NOW if you don't want to appear on their IP's list after the domain was transferred. Block the application with your firewall to prevent further "accidental" access to the net
chesty
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6. June 2005 @ 15:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I frankly have a hard time with his story or otherwise he would have made public the business entity intent of involving him in some adverse legal litigation.

It might have occurred to him the UK is just as assinine as the united states when it comes to intellectual property.

It almost sounds like the same hoax the owner/developer of the former bit torrent was foisting on unsuspecting people who donated to his legal defense.

It almost sounds like the software developer was really disatified about the chump change he was making from donations being a second rate computer programmer developing and distributing his computer program and he was not making a fortune on his software like bill gates and some of the more notable ( AND RICHER ) computer software developers.

I don't buy his story ................
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6. June 2005 @ 15:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Who cares what his reason is? Just be happy that you ever HAD DVD Decrypter in the first place. You can't force him to make it if he doesn't want to. Mabey Slysoft payed him off, mabey the aliens threatend to probe him, whatever reason it doesn't matter. Still a great tool, it always will be.
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6. June 2005 @ 16:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Those B*stards! They killed Decrypter!!
My money's on Sony also.
Thank you Lightning UK!! You will be sorely missed.
Ludikhris
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6. June 2005 @ 16:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If it is Sony... its the last straw for me... JVC will by my new choice for electronics and Microsoft for videogames..... bye bye
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6. June 2005 @ 16:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Soon they will ban kitchen knives because "People can use them to kill others!, and not make legitimate sandwidches!"

Creative use of technology will never die! They all want us to be bland droids who tow the big companys ethos!

I say never! FREEDOM!
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6. June 2005 @ 16:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
So..we purchase a new DVD at an exorbitant price and have no rights over what we do with it?

Is it unlawful to also copy a cake recipe from a cookbook that the wife owns?

Hollywood only makes BILLIONS from new movies,and the greed factor pushes them to then release them on DVD for a few BILLION more.

This is another nail in the coffin of freedom of rights. I`m disgusted by it.
rwfromks
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6. June 2005 @ 16:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Folks, let's get some perspective here.

Keep in mind it is the BRITISH AUTHORITIES that are stopping DVD Decrypter, so comments against the Americans in this case aren't right.

We may have something to bitch about once the Supreme Court rules on file sharing/p2p programs in a couple weeks, however.

Let's keep in mind.....THIS SITE IS INCORRECT THAT IT IS ILLEGAL TO DECRYPT CSS.

AS of yet, anyway. We have just had a couple court rulings in circuit courts, courts that DO NOT HAVE JURISDICTION AND AUTHORITY OVER ANYTHING BUT A FEW STATES. Only the Supreme Court has the final say for the entire country.

It may be illegal to decrypt CSS in the DMCA, but it is a gray area, and that can't really be said until and if the SCOTUS rules that it is.

And I doubt they will with their file sharing ruling coming up in the next week or two because that deals with p2p programs, not issues of copying DVDs.

However, if they do issue a broad ruling that updates Betamax and continues to give American citizens the rights to copy their purchases, then circumventing CSS would be allowed. If they issue a broad ruling in which they say such circumventing for legal purposes of copying a purchased DVD for yourself as a backup is illegal, then circumventing CSS would be illegal.

The good news is something else always comes along. They can't stop this.

I am a conservative Republican, but I am damn sick and tired of the crap the MPAA and RIAA have pulled the point that I, who used to only copy music, is now ready to stick it to the MPAA by copying DVDs. Suck my balls.

Hopefully the court will rule in favor of the rights of citizens.

Thanks for all you have done, DVDdecrypter.
Excel2005
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6. June 2005 @ 16:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The current version is still just that: on par with all current protection devices. I say we hold our complaints until this is false. Here's to HD-DVD Decrypter or BluRay Breaker or whatever.
rwfromks
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6. June 2005 @ 16:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What other programs are there that are good for doing the same thing?
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6. June 2005 @ 16:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Decrypter doesn't rip movies, people do!

We still have guns and we should still have Decrypter. What a load of crap! Since when shouldn't I be able to protect my purchased version of a movie by making a copy of it? We've been doing it with music for years! Lightning UK will be missed and I for one, do believe your story, for those that don't, just look at 321 Studios. I don't put anything past those greedy movie mogul B---ards! Trust me, this is a sign of worse things to come if something isn't done (although I have no idea what that something is). signed: extremely PO'd.
mrjerk
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6. June 2005 @ 16:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I dont like all this, what in effect this is saying is that - "You cannot make software which copys DVD's/Breaks Encryption codes", Because we dont like it (We being the big business drones)

Our word is more powerfull and worthy than yours , because we have a stack of money - and you the little consumer do not.

And because the worth of a human being boils down to money in modern society, normally speaking the money people will win.

This is a serious issue because the natural tendancy of intelligent people is to take things apart and see how they work. If this process eventually gets you a law suit, it will make the hackers/crackers more determined to develop new ways to beat the system.

just my 2p
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6. June 2005 @ 17:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
rwfromks,

AnyDvd is the best of the proggys that cost $$ to get around encryption. It comes out with ways around encryption quicker than they can come out with new encryption devices.
XOXLISA
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6. June 2005 @ 17:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Don't even look at Negative comments ^^^ Lightning....for you have been awesome over the years and tyvm for all your hard work and dedication to the people in need of your help. As for myself, I am truely sad to see such knowledge and love for the software you have go to waste...:(...however, you are doing the right thing for you and vgl and again, thanks buddy because I really needed your help...:)
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6. June 2005 @ 17:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
This just got me thinking. It was just a few days ago that I read something (don't know if it was here or not) about the use of encryption being a valid reason to suspect criminal activity. It kinda got me thinking when I put two and two together. Maybe it could be argued that this decrypting software is also meant as a protection for DVD owners.

Think about it - if encryption is a valid reason to suspect criminal activity, shouldn't we be allowed to decrypt our DVDs in the interest of verifying that we don't have any incriminating materials in our homes? If we really don't have the right to decrypt the data in our own homes, then we shouldn't be held liable when we have encrypted material that's incriminating. Am I making any sense here?
mrjerk
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6. June 2005 @ 17:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes you make good sense, it never pays to leave the goverments with complete power over data.

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6. June 2005 @ 17:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Perhaps Lightning UK! could move to another country that allows the circumvention of CSS or doesn't have laws concerning it... French courts have ruled recently to ban some types of encryptions that block legit copying...
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mrjerk
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6. June 2005 @ 17:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You know thats not a bad idea?

Perhaps he could use a remote connection with a virtual desktop to a pc in a country where it is legal to produce such software.

Why cant he host his site in a country where no such laws exist?

Oh well....
 
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