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DVD Decrypter -- gone forever

article published on 6 June, 2005

Not really a good way to start a new week -- this just came in via our news submit (thanks Shoey): Hello world, I've got some good news and some bad news. Let's start with the good.... (tumble weed passes by)Ok, and now onto the bad: DVD Decrypter 3.5.4.0 is the last version you'll ever see.We hoped this day would never come, but it has, and I can promise you, nobody is more gutted about ... [ read the full article ]

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gambiel7
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8. June 2005 @ 08:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
you know Chesty's right, same thing did happen with author of shrink (Nero) and they haven't updated it since 2003 and will never again because he took his little source code to Nero for fat payoff. By the way Recode Sucks! Now that I think about it in this aspect the Region free tools will probably be safe to use for some time as most of them require a "pay to play" in order to get updates...Yeah I really do not see source code for Decrypter EVER leaking, this will NEVER happen...You guys all suck the bigone!
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8. June 2005 @ 09:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Chesty is my kind of person. Does not believe the first thing they read. Now at the moment it is hard to prove that Chesty or anyone else in here is right about what is going on. That does not matter.

I?m going to be harsh now but oh well. As I read through the thread I look for commonalities. I have found a huge one. People complaining about what has happened and that?s all they will do. There is nothing wrong with complaining it shows you are aware of the situation. But just merely complaining will not fix anything. All that will do is get your hateful feelings off your chest.

We need to find a way to move on to step 2. That is finding a solution to the problem and act on it. Being someone that has worked in the corporate world I know they are laughing at what we are saying. They lose a few hundred thousand dollars they really do not care. It will just be a tax write off. You can whine and complain all you want to these people but you might as well be shouting at a wall.

I have said this before but time to throw in a reminder since the thread has become large. These people rely on us to buy their product. This is where their income is coming from. The only way to get a greedy persons attention is to take their money away. They will do anything to get the money back. We all have the power to take away their money. All we have to do is simply stop buying their product. Not just a day, they won?t see any damage from that. At a minimum it has to be 2 months. Assuming the entire world did this at once (won?t happen) in just two months they could lose over a billion dollars. That would definitely get their attention. Best part is it is not illegal. While this is going on they need to be bombarded with letters explaining what is going on and the demands to stop it. In some cases companies had to go out of business due to a Boycott.

This is they only way we can send a message to them. Whining and empty threats just make a loud room. Yes you will be without new DVD for the 2 months but is watching the flicks more important than our freedoms? Something like this will take a few months to plan out. Buying used stuff would be OK since they make no money off those sales.

-Del

mcfly982
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8. June 2005 @ 10:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Good point Del.

Not only is a Boycot legal, it seems to be the only way to stop these huge corporations from doing as they please. We all know that federal, state, or local legislation doesn't do it. There are huge organizations that break anti-trust laws all the time (cough... gas prices) and compaies that take our rights straight from under our nose (cough, cough, DVD encrypting). With all the money we give them, they can afford to pay lawyers around the clock to look for loopholes in the system and therefor create their own laws. Something we can't do or fight... as individuals.

Think about this for one second. We all (the little people), as a whole, sacrifice $1 every month to pay for our own team of lawyers to fight the big guys and their team of lawyers. There are over 296million people in the US alone, that's alot of lawyer under our belt. We can hire an army of lawyers... All with $1 a month. Heck, we could do it with a nickel a month.

Until everyone figures out that together we can do almost anything, nothing will be done. People need to stop fighting, killing, hating. and being afraid of eachother and understand that we are all here together and that's not going to change. So if we're all stuck here together, why not stick together?

It's the only way. Sorry If I sound like a preacher.

-A
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8. June 2005 @ 10:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I hate to see DVD Decrypter go, but we have to worry about how we are going to decrypt NOW. Is there anything that comes close, or is AnyDVD the only bet.
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8. June 2005 @ 10:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Lightning my condolonces to the death of your wonderful program and sorry that it got you into the shit. It has been an extreme pleasure using it and I will sorely miss it. Good Luck to you in the future!
SD2
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8. June 2005 @ 10:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Corporate terrorism at its best. Boycot all movies and music.
gambiel7
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8. June 2005 @ 10:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
what are we to do Mr. Del buy used media...? half the blanks we buy now are rip offs. Who makes the media, the companies who produce the dvd movies in the first place.....This is the whole argument of this thread to bring together all members who have actually used this software intelligently and come up with some sort solution, of course we're gonna bitch...It's one of the last rights we have... I'll say it again, they all suck on the bigone! Go back to work!!!
tymiles
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8. June 2005 @ 11:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Open Source, open source. Let the source code goooooo!

I am SURE someone out there can do some work on the code in a country where this law does not apply!
Lowride66
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8. June 2005 @ 12:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I don't know if dissun' Lightning is appropriate. I'm sure he provided a handy little program that even you used. Theres bigger issues here, and thats what this thread is about. It isn't just Hollywood, it's all big business. It's like a bad sci-fi flik where the corporations rule everything. Including the government. Being from the U.S. I can see it from the inside out. "We the people" aren't the ones that represent our country. It's big business, and the footprint of prosperity.
I believe it's the whole truth, and even if not Lightning UK has been a King among thieves. Don't forget, you are a pirate after all.

Salute to him and all his endeavors and all like him.


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8. June 2005 @ 12:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I really like the boycott idea, but it's going to require a lot of work if it's to be successful. Not to mention a lot of participants. Any idea approximately how much the movie industry makes in two months and how much we'd have to stop people from spending to make a dent?

It would probably be a good idea to have a center of operations where we'd report all the people we've convinced to join so that we can have a good idea how many people have joined. Maybe a program like having each participant get five or so others to join would be good too. After just ten 'generations' we'd have a little over 12 million participants if my math is right. If we could get it to go another two generations we'd have over 300 million (probably enough, LOL). Of course, we'd have to make sure that these people are ones who regularly spend money on movies, otherwise of course, they won't be of much help, and also that they are new participants.

We wouldn't be asking them to be criminals, just to make a passive statement that they don't like one of the numerous idiotic things the movie industry has been doing (suing people into backruptcy, insane overcharging for round pieces of plastic, releasing poorly made plotless movies, attacking people's rights by encrypting the data we buy, sabotaging legitimate networks that help reduce the cost of being an artist, living in luxury and still wanting more from people who can't even afford a VCR - I'm sure I've only scratched the surface here).

In addition, the boycott could also introduce other suggested usages for the money the participants save on movies such as donating to non-profit groups, buying something more mind-stimulating (those ancient things called books, maybe), or just plain saving for a rainy day.

Anyway, I await your input.
MJS41
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8. June 2005 @ 13:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
DVD Decrypter gone, but try cladDVD.NET v3.5.7 at: http://www.clonead.co.uk/ this tool even supports Movie Only Mode...:)
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8. June 2005 @ 13:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Unfortunately I feel we are a drop in the bucket when it comes to the total DVD sales. I of course will join any boycott, sign any petition, piss on any instituition you ask me to.
You've got my support.

As for you Mr. Lightning UK. I appreciate all that you have done and the abilities that you possesed to create the program(s) that you did. My hat is off to you. Best of luck with your future endevours whatever they may be.

Afterdawn,
Can we fly him to Findland?

Godspeed,
Oops
Lowride66
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8. June 2005 @ 13:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
A-P-A-T-H-Y

I really hate to be the voice of realism. But...........
WhatUp
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8. June 2005 @ 13:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I already started on my own I will not go see SW3 in theater I will rent the DVD once out and that it, I already told my kids that yes I want to see the movie but because of how they treated "the leak" yeah righ! I will not give more money then I could to Mister Lucas no thank you it started there for me.

Maybe we should start by saying hey your movie at the theater I won't go see it and will waite the DVD instead a lot of money will be lost there and will be see as immediate not just in month it will be immediate if the world get out to boycott Hollywood movie at the theater.

Just a tough but for me it wasn't I have acted.
Omegand
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8. June 2005 @ 13:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Has anyone really seen a good English flick lately???
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8. June 2005 @ 13:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
MJS41, I have been in contact with Mr Clad and he stated that clad will fluff on Arccos.
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8. June 2005 @ 13:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The music/video companies could end all legitimate argument tomorrow by
1) Reducing the cost to a sensible level - pile em high and sell em cheap would end calls for piracy - they would make as much money - just have to work a little bit harder. It would also mean that poor kids could have more enjoyment!!
2)Provide lifetime replacement CD/DVD on return of the original damaged one for the cost of postage
3)abandon regional codings and let anyone watch everything at the same time

They do NOT lose a jot from piracy as the pirates wouldnt buy their films anyway - they will just go without. All this effort stops legitimate consumers protecting their property, adds to thr cost of their products and gives the whole business a bad name that it deserves.

I cant imagine who the company is but S ending with Y sounds like a runner to me and let me see who manufactured my DVD recorder drive???
miskotes
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8. June 2005 @ 13:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Greetings LIGHTNING UK!
Instead of freaking people arround from day to day, they should at least offer you kind of settlement not to be such a genious you R!
I think Democracy is shutting down...

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 9. June 2005 @ 15:02

osirion
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8. June 2005 @ 13:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
How bout we just dont purchase any DVDS from now on and rip em all of the net?How the fuck are they gunna sue every one?So MPAA go SUCK my FUCKING DICK
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M A C R O V I S I O N
Guyy
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@ binkie7

thanx 4 ur reply
BiGsAl
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8. June 2005 @ 15:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
dam that sucks bad things happendt o good people .
as for the selling out part if he did good for him.i hope he got paid big time for using his brain if it came down to thousands...or millions...from royaltys...shoot everybody on this forum would do it in a heart beat ....oh no i would never sell out ...yeah right get with the real world we would have gotten in legal trouble maybe down the road i say quit will your ahead..i hope his at a lake somewhere with some fina looking senoritas and some beer,wine,whatever the man does AND enjoying life you go boy long live the DVD RIPPER DVD Decrypter.KING
STANDING SALUTE....................................
hkm
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8. June 2005 @ 16:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Here's another similar program just released. Haven't tried it yet, but it sounds similar.
From author's website:
DVD43Free current version 3.5.3
"WHAT DOES IT DO?
DVD43 removes most copy protection found on found on movie DVDs. DVD43 only works on Win2K and WinXP. If you have Win98 or WinME, use DVD Decrypter (use 'Mode' 'File') which allows you to rip all the files of a DVD to your hard drive and then copy with your favorite copy software."

Page concludes with:

"We obtained the source of DVD43 and furthered its development,
integrating it into our products: www.DVDIdle.com/dvd43.htm"

So, it appears that it's from maker of DVDIdle products -- DVD RegionFree [now DVD Region+CSS Free], DVDFab [Express, Platinum & Gold], DVDIdle, and DVDIdle Pro.

Anyone tried DVD43Free?
hkm
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Sorry, forgot to post url for DVD43Free.

You can get it at:

dvd43.com

or

freewarefiles.com

and other sites.
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Sir,
Are they bullying you to give them your web site and email addresses too? Might not be a bluff but sounds like BLACKMAIL.

These people are not protecting the 'bands' / 'Artists' that they rip off but attempting to maximise their income. There really is no need to rip stuff off anyway as slightly poorer quality non-original copies are easily made albeit with fewer of the quality features of a DVD.

Now, of course if you are selling such copies to line the pockets of yer jackets then well you are robbing the companies which is in addition to fradulently obtaining funds by deceptive means.

If you really like this stuff - BUY IT. Send teh band a donation for their efforts. And why not support the poor starvin people in Africa.

These companies rip off you and me in various ways and the so called industry regulator make them pay hefty fines of $500. But you and I are bullied by imprisonment and hefty fines.

I would strongly suggest that you make them pay you for your work - It must be worth £Millions to them and all the good will you have earned from your web site, friends etc - they are obviously intending to intercept your emails.

This is a very serious and illegal offence and they are commiting it in a very brash and arrogant way. Its Internet harrassment and terrorism using a legal system which was intended to protect the weak and innocent NOT the RICH Big brother bully boys which Hide behind it. Reminds me of teh Scribes and Pharisees of Jesus day who for a pretense robbed and devoured widows houses. Just exactly what they are doing (not just in your case - Ive been through similar things)

I strongly urge your to post your work on source forge and other boards and to ensure that it has a GNU copyright - in the interests of of computer science and technology. All algorithms must be protected. In addition youcan be certain the the US department of defence and most government agencise will also have similar software algorithms - they got mathematical genius working for them.

By the WAY you MUST NOT SIGN anything until your lawyerS and adviserS carefully okay it all. BUT YOU are in the strong negotiating position and I would suggest that all your code be put into escrow or kept secret from this bib brother company.

You must also ensure what legal jurisdiction they are working under.

It really bugs me that my foreigh DVDs have destroyed my local DVD player. Who pays for that? You guessed me teh poor consumer - all because of the greed of the DVD suppliers.

Well I could rant on and on about so much that makes me cross about these big bro companies.

All the best to one and all.


 
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