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DVD Decrypter -- gone forever

article published on 6 June, 2005

Not really a good way to start a new week -- this just came in via our news submit (thanks Shoey): Hello world, I've got some good news and some bad news. Let's start with the good.... (tumble weed passes by)Ok, and now onto the bad: DVD Decrypter 3.5.4.0 is the last version you'll ever see.We hoped this day would never come, but it has, and I can promise you, nobody is more gutted about ... [ read the full article ]

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rmbrewer
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8. June 2005 @ 17:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I believe him. Just received a security magazine at work today talking about how the FBI set up a sting site for Star Wars III movie. People paid $8.00 to watch it as many times as they wanted not knowing their IP addresses and info was being collected until they got a knock on the door. I did not bring the magazine home so I do not remember how many they caught. So anything is possible. The MPAA has money, lots of money and they can pressure people do do their bidding, just like the insurance companies do. Just my .02 cents worth.
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mytchm
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8. June 2005 @ 18:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I think I like etcfpz's idea....afterall how can they come after you for disturbing their intellictual property by taking your intelectual property....They may be able to stop you fromn distributing it but what right do they have to stop you from retaining the rights to it....get a lawyer...I bet if you were in the US there would be lots of civil liberty type lawyers lined up to get their names on this one.

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I remember like it was yesterday, almost 3 years ago, when I got the first DVD-R burner out of all my friends. I quickly wanted to find a way to burn a movie. I began by using DVD2One and copytoDVD. I remember finding a program that could let me burn a movie to my computer and from the computer to DVD2One. that program was DVDDecrypter. It was like the best program in the world! file mode was the best, and even now, when I use CloneDVD2 and AnyDVD, I passed on my old burner to my brother, and he only has that one drive. With dvddecrypter he can decrypt the movie to his hard drive first, and then be able to take his laptop on the road and not worry about scratching DVDs or lugging around to many. DVDdecrypter, was the best. and I will always miss it. I will use it to the end!

"I'm a jerk, not an asshole!!"
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8. June 2005 @ 19:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@ nonoitall

You think like me. I was driving around today and this very thought crossed my mind. It would be great to set up a Web Site for this. It is unfortunate that I have little knowledge in that area. I'm sure somebody in here can help with that.

@ gambiel7

Yes it is true they make money off the media but nowhere near as much from Movies and music. I would not worry about including Media in the boycot. Of course if it even happens. I did not say to stop bitching. There is nothing wrong with that. I was saying that it fixes nothing, just gets the anger off your chest. Haveing a plan of action to fix the problem is what is needed.

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If whe decide to do this we are going to have to get the message out to as many message boards like this one. There are plenty out there and probaly also bitching about this very topic. I know you can go 2 months without new flicks. Renting may not also have to be included. In the USA anyway the rental stores buy the movies for $90. That is the only money the movie people will make off the sale. The rental sales go to the rental store. However stopping renting for 2 months could cause the store to not be able to buy the movies. This is a grey area.

Dont forget we will need to also send tons of mail to the jerks telling them why we quit buying. This means that adresses will have to be found.

-Del


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9. June 2005 @ 01:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
LIGHTNING UK!
(Author of the once "Ultimate DVD Ripper", DVD Decrypter)
Thanks mate.Good luck in yer future.
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9. June 2005 @ 01:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Somebody with a bit of tech know-how should set up a site or something to orchestrate and/or spread the word about the boycott.

We have a very powerful tool at our disposal here (the Net) and we really should use it.

Personally, I will not visit the cinema again for at least a couple of years (just to be sure I boycott it when others do). Nor will I buy another new DVD from a store.

I just can't bring myself to line these fucker$ pocket$ anymore.

They will prosecute and jail normal people so they can have, for example 45.2 billion instead of 45.19 billion - how corrupt and comsumed by greed can people get? Especially when millions of people living a 2 hour flight away (from me) on the same planet are dying because they have no FOOD or WATER. I feel sickened now.

If anybody else is as pissed off as me about this, try looking at
h**p://infowars.com to see how bad it has actually got.

Ptwenty
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9. June 2005 @ 03:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks for being KING you had best take care of your self for now. I hope every thing goes alright for you and I would like to get some one to starrt a LEGAL DEFENCE FUND for you, Surely the Buisness that has you under it's thumb will allow that.
Creativity is the greatest of human products, thanks for your part.
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9. June 2005 @ 04:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It would seem to me that if there is a new revolution it will be here on the net. But some things are missing. Leadership, Organization and a plan of action. With all we know, and are capable of, why can't the power of a group, organized on the web, based on doing the right thing, be able to influence governments and persuade business to tow the line.
The problem would be apathy. Here in the US you can't even get people to hop in their cars to go vote. Where, given the oppurtunity to, people in underdeveloped countries will walk miles and risk death for the chance at a new world.
Why hasn't somebody stopped the Terrorists in the mid-east from access to the web, and posting movies that only show how twisted their thoughts are. They are using the net to recruit. Why, with all we know, there has been no-one to crash their server, hack their web, or even find out where their at? How does Bin Laden get mpegs on there? Who brings them, and from where? Why aren't we watching them?
With the organization of a net based group this and many more things would be posible. An organization of pirates so to speak? Capable hackers, crackers, phreakers, geeks and the moraly outraged.
There is a way to get this done. Thats to start doing it! The path will show itself. Theres much to be done here. There will be the risk of corruption and greed that will threaten it's existance. As we all know, "that when it's born of contempt and evil it's never long for life".
You want more?
Shneur
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9. June 2005 @ 04:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It really is sad that the Internet, which had such promise as a medium for subversion, has now been pretty thoroughly coopted by the Establishment. The underlying problem is that so-called "democratic" governments, whether U.S., E.U. or Asian, in practice are beholden for their existence to the sources of Big Money rather than to their populaces, who have become more and more powerless. This is reflected in the widening gap between rich and poor in "industrialized" countries, most notably the U.S. I confess to being a member of the "Sixties" generation, and maybe we got some things wrong, and maybe our "revolution" failed, but at least we didn't all major in Business and aspire to being DINKs with the State for a nanny.
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9. June 2005 @ 05:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
best wishes to you LIGHTNING UK!

this reminds me of an article I saw yesterday about the top-selling albums of all time...i think it was about 28 million copies sold for the eagles greatest hits. Thriller, Billy Joel's greatest hits, AC/DC were in the top 5....all selling over 20 million copies....and, guess what...if you go buy the cd now, you still end up paying about $16. Have they not recouped their initial investment, yet? Seems like they should cut the price in half since it is all profit and not recouping the investment they put into making the album. they are just greedy and can do whatever they want.
i hope there will always be a LIGHTNING UK! somewhere putting up the good fight.
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9. June 2005 @ 05:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Lowride66
A-P-A-T-H-Y

I really hate to be the voice of realism. But...........
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I had to repost lowrider66's contribution from above, I think it cuts right to the point. I blame myself along with everyone elese, it was easier to sit back and let the politicians run the government. I forgot one thing about a Democracy, we are the government !

I don't know about the UK but, US movie theatre (Cinema) ticket sales are practically non-existent this summer. The movie industry admits that they have been making much more money from video sales (VHS & DVD) for a while now. They have contractural agreements with theatre owners that force them to do initial releases through theatres. However, the time period between theatrical release and video release has been shrinking over the past couple of years; it's evident that this is where the money tree grows.

What can I say, the one world corporate gustopo can do anything they want when they own the politicians. My hats off to France and the Dutch for voting down unification, we in the US are unified and that will console us as our political elite sell out to corporations and our country slowly goes down the drain.
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9. June 2005 @ 08:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Open Source the thing. Give the source code to the community!!!!
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9. June 2005 @ 10:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
For all you have done for us Mr. LIGHTNING UK.,Hours of joy for my son and I, burning and watching movies, and learning from the best in the business, I will go down burning untill the end. after 1000s of movies for my collection. I wish you the best and a BIG... BIG... thanks.........
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9. June 2005 @ 10:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sir:
There is always someone somewhere that wishes to maximize his gain and hold on to it by supressing those masses of other souls that have no ability as individuals to supplant him. At times it seems hopeless, but in reality, like water seeking the ocean, the route around this blockade is always there waiting.... somewhere. We may have partially lost it under current curcumstances, but it will be found again.

Moral indignation is really jealousy with a halo, in that we who have shared in your accomplishment wish we could have done so ourselves. Hopefully, this indignation will lead to the sharing of ideas and information freely without regard to personal profit. So that with a common goal of defeating unfair advantage and its use of power we may pass in legal pieces among ourselves what may be assembled in private to produce again what you have been forced to abandon.

Let us all remember clearly that in cases like the one before us Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb with the ability to contest the vote. Let us not give up our ability to resist what is taking place by complete surrender, but rather stay armed and develop new ways to accomplish old goals.

The Hibernian
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9. June 2005 @ 11:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Someone said we need leadership and organization on the internet. That person is dead wrong. If we have a central leadership for our revolution, it will just be a sitting duck, and will get shut down. These corporations have many ways to destroy organizations, including consumer action groups.

Here is what we REALLY NEED:

We need INDIVIDUAL action. We can't wait for others to take action, every one of us should take action against the Music Industry and the Movie Industry.

WE NEED TO BE AMORAL ABOUT IT.

I read these idealistic posts about democracy, and individual rights, and I feel like laughing. Idealism doesn't work, and you can't beat them at their game. What are you going to do? Beat the RIAA and MPIAA in a debate? These assholes have entire teams of smug corporate lawyers that will chew any of us up.

SO what do we do?
1)ABANDON ETHICS. That's right. We give them some of their own medicine. How?
RENT MOVIES ONLY!!! THEN BURN THEM ON A DVDR, AND DISTRIBUTE THEM TO YOUR FRIENDS.
2) USE DC++ to download files. It untraceable.
3) Spread the word. If Nike can brainwash almost EVERYBODY to buy their sneakers, I think we can convince some people to join our effort.
4) Remember, there is strength in numbers, and there is always strength in Surprise attacks. We Don't need leaders, we need to be our own leaders. This is an individual war, one step at a time.
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9. June 2005 @ 11:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thank you, LIGHTING UK, from Canada.
Lowride66
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9. June 2005 @ 11:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The Hibernian
Such eloquence and style...Sir. Your way of putting it, is without a doubt, the basis of a new moral standard. Perhaps the foundation of the movement we all seek.
Who is the one among you who will accept this challenge and organize a united front to those who oppose us?

I already don't do the theater thing .
As all of us here, I do know what DVD Decrypter is for and us it as such in the manner you speak and at this juncture I fail to feel I have caused the MIAA or the RIAA any monetary problems.

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9. June 2005 @ 11:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
'nor have I been suckerd into a pair of $120 shoes.....
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9. June 2005 @ 11:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Lightening UK, you've been the man for quite some time. Thx for all the excellent work, rest easy, you did a man's job for as long as you could.
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SO what do we do?
1)ABANDON ETHICS. That's right. We give them some of their own medicine. How?
RENT MOVIES ONLY!!! THEN BURN THEM ON A DVDR, AND DISTRIBUTE THEM TO YOUR FRIENDS.
Though it's tempting, this probably wouldn't reduce sales any more than a boycott (in both, customers refuse to buy merchandise). There are several disadvantages though. We would be subject to legal prosecution (not so in a boycott) and it's likely that fewer people would join, as refusing to buy something and outright piracy are two very different things and the latter is a bit much for most people who just want to make a statement. We can live without new movies for two months; we don't need to resort to piracy.
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9. June 2005 @ 12:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well Me my reply is clear and for the one that said it don't give them money yes theater give them money did you know that SW3 is 70% of the money go back to the studio + they are at what now 200 millions of US dollars and I don't think it is worldwide but only US.

So for me that 15 dollars X 4 = 60 dollars.

Did you know that they are looking at sending movie in a digital way to the theater on a large scale now and they are doing it right now on a pilot project so that to could asses what have to be done before offering it to the theaters at large meaning lightning distribution saving in movie reel etc no more films involved in a near future.

Yep if theater wasn't paying them they would not use it and no no one has to go trough a theater before releasing movie look at Walt Disney they are releasing movie for the DVD market that do not go to the theater knowing it is for kids and toddle almost they use that medium.

A block buster will always want the theater first to maximize is profit and after going for the DVD for the gravy so are even saying that SW3 will hit a billions us worldwide before it even hit the DVD market.

My suggestion to boycott hollywood movie at the theater is very valable and it is the only thing a corporation understand "money" nothing else counte for a corporation as I heard before outside money there is no salvation.

My tough.
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9. June 2005 @ 13:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Another kick in the teeth for the freedom of expression. when ingenuity and technical prowess like this is snuffed out, all these companies are doing is hurting the Internet as a whole. MP3 and Divx/Xvid are just two of the things that that were created by people like this. All idea's start out with one person sat in front of a computer saying i wonder i can do this? Now there will come a point when some one will say you i wonder if i could do this? but on the other hand i cant be bothered with the hassle i will get so forget it.

Without people like this around will still be listening to mp3 in another twenty years instead of "mp10" or whatever

Good luck to lightening UK
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9. June 2005 @ 13:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
At the end of the day do you really have enough time to watch / listen to this stuff?

Same with all the games - just another time thief. At least Monty Python were honest enough to name one of their productions as a "Complete WASTE of TIME"

Where does it all lead to - in the end, why are we doing this kind of stuff?

Most of it robs individuals of their inate creative abilities by promoting the 'perfect' superstar - and most of us just dont compare.

So why not make your own music and be a local could havebeen a fun person - or just record it off the radio for your personal enjoyment - isnt that what VCR were supposed to do.

I guess the RIAA would like every tape to have that mission impossible self distruct built in once the tape was read. Sadly (for them) they just could not get away with it.

I guess they will try to criple the SONY and other tape, disk and MP3 producing giants who knowingly sell their goods for this very purpose...
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9. June 2005 @ 15:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
etc: news flash, The RIAA won't go after sony because Sony is one of the largest (if not the largest) record industries. The reason why the RIAA will continue to allow the sale of tapes (besides that they can't do shit about it) is the fact that every tape or cd you buy, the RIAA gets a percent of the profit. Do you believe that? A blank tape gives them profit.

Nono: Piracy means stealing from someone else, correct? Isn't the RIAA and MPIAA stealing from US. They are stealing our RIGHT to use the software we want (among other things).
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9. June 2005 @ 15:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Great Program Lightning UK !

We all know that the program was great and now it sucks that there will be no updates, but there will always be others working to make it happen again.

If built by man it can broken by man!
 
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