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DVD Decrypter -- gone forever
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The following comments relate to this news article:
article published on 6 June, 2005
Not really a good way to start a new week -- this just came in via our news submit (thanks Shoey):
Hello world,
I've got some good news and some bad news. Let's start with the good.... (tumble weed passes by)Ok, and now onto the bad: DVD Decrypter 3.5.4.0 is the last version you'll ever see.We hoped this day would never come, but it has, and I can promise you, nobody is more gutted about ... [ read the full article ]
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nahual69
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9. June 2005 @ 17:21 |
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I used to have moral issues with piracy until I realized that companies don't care if they steal from us. Specially all companies involved in the movie industry.
I must admit the last movie I saw @ the theatre was SW ep3 and trust me it will be the last. Never again will I pay 3.00usd for a soda that costs 1.00 anywhere else. Screw all the big comapanies they lie and cheat like everyone else but they can afford lawyers unlike me.
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sneek
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9. June 2005 @ 19:23 |
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muskratt
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9. June 2005 @ 19:46 |
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Looks to me like this site either got hit with legal papers or just overloaded with DL requests... either way I couldn't DL the latest ver. today from the LINK given her on afterdawn.com ... BUT found it on this other related site -- so if you have trouble just go directly there:
http://www.dawnload.net/video_software/dvd_rippers/dvd_decrypter.cfm
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baggus
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9. June 2005 @ 20:50 |
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didn't realise you were uk based. i've used the prog along with shrink for a couple of years and its a pleasure to use. is DVD Shrink the next to go?
i first used x copy but wasn't happy with it and decrypter along with DVD Shrink beat it hands down.
cant you move out of uk to somewhere they cant touch you.how far can you go with 50 quid.
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sneek
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9. June 2005 @ 20:58 |
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hehe just move to canada were actaully pretty "loose" on copyrights and protections but u can always start a fund so ppl can donate to DVD Decrypter moving or posibly legal fees... just an idea a pretty crappy 1 at that but hey every1 around the world luvs DVD Decrypter so u might just get enough $$$ to fight and if not well u got paid for ur wonderful work on DVD Decrypter over the yrs
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9. June 2005 @ 21:05 |
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Nono: Piracy means stealing from someone else, correct? Isn't the RIAA and MPIAA stealing from US. They are stealing our RIGHT to use the software we want (among other things).
I agree with you, but fighting fire with fire just makes more fire. The courts have already decided that it doesn't matter when our rights are trampled on, but it doesn't take the same view of sharing copyrighted materials. We'd only be proving their fears are valid, and welcoming more lawsuits. The great thing about a boycott is that it's completely free and legal. No one is going to lock us up for boycotting and many more people will join the cause if they don't feel they have to become criminals to do it. The term 'passive resistance' applies well here. We can make them lose sales and they can't even touch us legally - they'll be left with two choices:
1. Go belly up.
2. Straighten up their act.
I don't really care which one they choose, but I tend to think they would prefer the latter when push comes to shove.
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sneek
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9. June 2005 @ 21:10 |
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wait is DVD Decrypter open sorce cuz if it was i think they couldnt touch u ... i think ... cuz u could argue that its not ur fault ur just a simple coder and pass around the blaim until they give up kinda like p2p they cant shut down sum of them cus the files are on other ppls comps ... i tihnk im probly wrong tho
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sneek
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9. June 2005 @ 21:19 |
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mindgod (Junior Member) 9 June 2005 15:07
Someone said we need leadership and organization on the internet. That person is dead wrong. If we have a central leadership for our revolution, it will just be a sitting duck, and will get shut down. These corporations have many ways to destroy organizations, including consumer action groups.
Here is what we REALLY NEED:
We need INDIVIDUAL action. We can't wait for others to take action, every one of us should take action against the Music Industry and the Movie Industry.
WE NEED TO BE AMORAL ABOUT IT.
I read these idealistic posts about democracy, and individual rights, and I feel like laughing. Idealism doesn't work, and you can't beat them at their game. What are you going to do? Beat the RIAA and MPIAA in a debate? These assholes have entire teams of smug corporate lawyers that will chew any of us up.
SO what do we do?
1)ABANDON ETHICS. That's right. We give them some of their own medicine. How?
RENT MOVIES ONLY!!! THEN BURN THEM ON A DVDR, AND DISTRIBUTE THEM TO YOUR FRIENDS.
2) USE DC++ to download files. It untraceable.
3) Spread the word. If Nike can brainwash almost EVERYBODY to buy their sneakers, I think we can convince some people to join our effort.
4) Remember, there is strength in numbers, and there is always strength in Surprise attacks. We Don't need leaders, we need to be our own leaders. This is an individual war, one step at a time.
bad plan wen sum1 gets busted they rat u out and then uve just got a whole load of ppl that get sued but good idea if ppl were loyal and dc++ is to hard 4 sum ppl to use it took me a month to learn how it worked they shud make it easier like any p2p or b/t
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superhott
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10. June 2005 @ 01:18 |
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MAD RESPECT TO LIGHTNING UK!
Through your commited efforts to improve your software and share it with the public is altruism truly at it's best! Although your efforts may seem to be pre-empted, it is without doubt that this effort to suppress your software will most definitely only result in the production of other applications to perform similar tasks existing only by the bent rules they pry until the system flexes them back. I can understand your cooperation as fighting such an alliance is poor judgement. They possess abilities that make winning the battle nearly impossible. However we are not defeated, we will always resort to different tactics to accomplish what it is we did once before, and because of this we are always a step or two ahead of them. Whether it feels this way or not. Evolving is part of the process, and undoubtedly this is what will happen, again, and again. It is unfortunate to see the system catch up to DVD Decrypter, however take pride that your work and generosity has inspired a new program or utility that will carry on such effort that seems to have been snuffed. This is the way we do it, this is the way we survive. MAD THANKS TO LIGHTNING UK! - keep the spirit alive.
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mat1983
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10. June 2005 @ 03:39 |
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This might sound a bit extreme but why dont your declare your home a republic? If you control your own country your have your own laws. No other country force you to make a law, (unless the american or british decide to invade) Thus now you make any program you want, to do anything you want as long as you follow the laws of your new country.
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RussC
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10. June 2005 @ 06:10 |
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There are many avenues left for those of you with imagination. What the powers that be cannot outsmart they throw dollars at until they feel they have solved the problems (as defined by them) they encounter. By judicial decree because of their self styled position on DVD sales and software programs, they should be mandated to furnish free backup copies of all sales for life of movies, games and all related products. But, I doubt that the consumer can ever expect any justice of any type. You only get as much justice in this country as you can pay for!
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jaehomo
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10. June 2005 @ 10:36 |
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I will miss DVD decrypted. But rather than wave your hands and try to
copy ever movie in site. Why not help build new tools to keep copying available.
What the public need?s is tools, not just more copies of bad movies.
Downloading is good if you have the bandwidth.
Even with Torrent. Sneaker net is faster.
Hosting Terabytes of Hollywood?s hottest just makes you a target.
Built tools and open source them.
Or if you can?t build buy some of the best from companies like slysoft.
You?re not likely to find a copy of the original source code out there for DVD decrypted.
But I?m sure that some enterprising person, that has more free time than me.
Will be able to dissemble the code and use it to make a base for new fresh tools.
It?s all C++ with a very little inline machine code.
Oh ya? a Big F- you to sony.
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10. June 2005 @ 11:36 |
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This is an outrage and completely unfair for the author of the software. The fact that the movie companies do not how to prevent people from copying does not make the software that use to decrypt a movie become illegal. THe movie companies need to do a better job on encrypting the movie and not to find ways to shut down companies with encryption software.
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10. June 2005 @ 12:57 |
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The movie companies need to forget copy protection altogether - it's a violation of our right to backup things that we pay for.
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mindgod
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10. June 2005 @ 17:23 |
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Mono: It is unrealistic to expect a lot of people to just stop watching movies or listening to music (even those that are diehard file sharers and etc...) It will be much HARDER to stop the RIAA and MPIAA that way, since people simply won't join. Burnt copies, on the other hand, are a perfect and equal replacement. That way, we hit them on two levels: we don't spend money on their products as well as enjoy them. I think people will agree to that, at least those who I see buying bootleg DVDs everyday in Manhattan. And by the way, most people don't see file sharing or backing up DVDs as criminal activity, it's all hype made by the MPIAA. And they can't sue the tens of thousands of people who buy bootleg DVDs, they can only sue the seller. But here's the deal: WE ARE NOT SELLERS. We give our backup copies to our friends. No profit, so we are not criminals.
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10. June 2005 @ 19:26 |
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Mono: It is unrealistic to expect a lot of people to just stop watching movies or listening to music
Sorry, I must have been somewhat vague before; we don't want them to stop viewing and listening to media by any means, just to stop buying brand new movies and shelling out cash at theaters (which would also be included in the plan you proposed). Even renting and buying used media would be fine, as the MPAA doesn't make money off of it, or at least nowhere near as much as they do off new movies. As far as the courts are concerned, sharing copyrighted content over the internet or in any other form is still a crime, and there are plenty of people out there who know it. They might join a boycott, but won't want to run the risk of mass-pirating copyrighted materials. Remember, we want to maximize the amount of money that the MPAA loses, and in order to do this we need as many participants as possible. We can't afford to lose people who are afraid of breaking the law, which you can't really blame them for.
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sam77
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11. June 2005 @ 13:59 |
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Two things:
1) Seems to me that a few weeks ago, a French court ruled that it was not legal for companies to copyprotect their DVD's (and other media). Is that corrct? If so, would that mean that if a French originated DVD-Decrypter-type program originated in France, that nobody could touch them?
2) I read on slashdot.com that "LIGHTNING UK" had to turn over all the source code to DVD-Decryter as a part of this judgement. If that's true, does that mean it would be easy for all future DVD's to make it so DVD-Decrypter won't work?
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dvduno88
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11. June 2005 @ 13:59 |
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<removed>
I just would like to spread the word and let everyone know, you can now find DVD Decrypter at:
<removed>
It took a lot of time to get this site back up, and it would be nice if someone could help me find a new development team and more places to host DVD Decrypter for download!
Edit: Links to the hoax site removed by Ketola.
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12. June 2005 @ 00:22 |
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<removed>
And the point of this site is........?
I would not have a problem with this other than the fact that you are trying to pass yourself off as someone you are not.
You made an attenpt to put up a copy of the original site. You even left the "Nethosted" logo in. This site is not hosted there or at any normal hosting service.
Heck, I've got Decrypter websites.....how many do you need? Here are a few versions:
http://www.dvdplusvideo.com/DVDD/dvdd_pg3a.html
Lightning was having legal problems with his original site design and had actually changed it before going off-line. He put a call out for some new designs and these are some page prototypes I made for him. If you intend to use your exsisting site design, you will run into the same problems lightning did.
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meatface
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12. June 2005 @ 01:32 |
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I am saddened by the end of the DVD Decrypter and its updates. I had recently found the update that is current and installed it. I was lucky to get it in when I did, not knowing that this situation would come so soon. I have had some very good luck backing my DVD's with this program and it has worked when others I paid some large bucks for don't work and haven't for a long while. (DVD X Copy Xpress) by 123 and the (I copy DVD's 2) that I have been in touch with numerous times with no luck. I really hate to see someone who was generous enough to put out a working program for people with the same interests and for FREE in fact and they are given a bum rap. The ones I paid for and don't function have my money and don't give a rats a-- that it won't work anymore. Good luck in the future and THANK YOU for providing us with a good tool to back our disks with. I Salute you!!!!! You are one of very few to step up and give without their hand out expecting to get in return. Thanks Again. LONG LIVE LIGHTNING UK
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12. June 2005 @ 10:25 |
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What does anyone think of this.....fake?????????
<yes it's a fake>
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jetyi83
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12. June 2005 @ 11:00 |
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that really sucks DVD Decrypter went down.. Lightning is one of the coolest companies around. Best encryption software and it was free.
they should have have a branch in finland..
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12. June 2005 @ 14:17 |
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Here is the who is information on the new site. It looks like it is hosted in Germany.
Is it for real
Domain ID:D85966532-LROR
Domain Name:R8.ORG
Created On:25-Apr-2002 18:18:31 UTC
Last Updated On:23-Jan-2005 02:00:41 UTC
Expiration Date:25-Apr-2006 18:18:31 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:eNom, Inc. (R39-LROR)
Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:CAFB631603DAF99A
Registrant Name:Bjarne Lundgren
Registrant Organization:Bjarne Lundgren
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A_Klingon
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12. June 2005 @ 15:32 |
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DVD-Decrypter was and is and always will be one of the finest DVD rippers ever conceived, if not the best.
It's forced shutdown is a tragedy. It's closure made TV news too. I forget which program I saw it on (one of those hi-tech computer shows) but the shows' hosts said they were amazed that the forces-that-be at the MPAA were totally out-of-touch with Planet Earth to assume that this is in any way the end of dvd backup software. Where one ripper goes "down", another one will surely pop up.
I have 4 or 5 versions of DVD Decrypter and I plan to religiously hold on to every one of them.
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12. June 2005 @ 21:31 |
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I just would like to spread the word and let everyone know, you can now find DVD Decrypter at: <removed> After a lot of hard work, I've brought the website back! The bad news is I lost all my programers which means unitl I find a new team I will only provide version 3.5.4.0 for download. If you have programming skills please e-mail me AS SOON AS POSSIBLE!! I'm looking for a wide range of people including reverse engineer, C++, C+ or anyone who knows how to update and maintain software programs!! If you have these skills, Please contact me immediately at: <removed>
I think it is just someone who wants to capitalize on lightnig_uk's misfortune. I don't know why anyone would want to do this.
Why would anyone want to step into a lawsuit from Macrovision?
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