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DVD Decrypter -- gone forever
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The following comments relate to this news article:
article published on 6 June, 2005
Not really a good way to start a new week -- this just came in via our news submit (thanks Shoey):
Hello world,
I've got some good news and some bad news. Let's start with the good.... (tumble weed passes by)Ok, and now onto the bad: DVD Decrypter 3.5.4.0 is the last version you'll ever see.We hoped this day would never come, but it has, and I can promise you, nobody is more gutted about ... [ read the full article ]
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Amwhoam
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8. July 2005 @ 16:11 |
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OK..Well This is all nes to me RE the Death of DVD C. But now doubt, I've spent time on many a forum reading comments about this ripper and that and the bottom line is there is NO Ripper like LUK's.
Thus I have about 30 copies laying around...lol
Anyway, I think that the latest version will last a while because it has "Heuristic" like capabilities coupled with an astute user should result in a solidly decrypted flick. Read above about a problem Burning Hitch. I just ripped it in the first try but what I'm seeing lately is a IFO layout that is done intentionally to confuse to Ripper. Lot's of broken up files on the original seems to throw off the ripper but in those cases just isolate to movie files and rip them. Never fails. Movies I've had problems with "Outfoxed" the documentary, Stander. Make DVD drcrypter hang. Well I've burned 2005 flicks here in the US without any problems. Now the big deal will come when these "Macrovision" types coordinate more deeply with the Hardware folk to attempt physcial barriers. We'll stay tuned.
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8. July 2005 @ 21:20 |
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hmmm does that "company" sound like "bony" at all?
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forkndave
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8. July 2005 @ 23:04 |
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No, that company sounds like Macrovision.
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Amwhoam
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9. July 2005 @ 03:32 |
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Bony, Macrovision... Reall it's 6 one, 1/2 dozen the other. The reality is that know one knows what's happened exept LUK. It could be a legit scare right down to they made him a monitary offer he (nor anyone of us) could refuse.
FAct is I can't see any reason why it's being kept in the dark, unless there was a nondisclosure contract signed (ala many medical insurance settlements).
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326837
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15. July 2005 @ 19:51 |
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bEING NEW TO THE COMMUNITY, AND RELATIVELY NEW TO BURNING BACKUPS, i FIND THAT i HAVE LEARNT MORE FROM READING THESE FORUMS THAN IS CONTAINED ANYWHERE IN THE VARIOUS MAGS. tO MAKE THIS SHORT, IT IS A SHEAME THAT A MULTIMILLION CONGLOMERATE HAS TO SHAKE DOWN A FEW GIFTED INDIVIDUALS THAT ( MOSTLY ) ACT IN A LEGAL WAY. mY THANKS TO LUK, AND TO THE REST OF YOU. KEEP FIGHTING THE GOOD FIGHT.
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cygnus_09
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21. July 2005 @ 14:43 |
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If anyone is having problems ripping with Shrink 3.2 (the good 'ol C.R.C. error) and cleaning the dvd doesn't work, try useing Shrink 2.3.I came across one movie (can't remember which one it was) but it would shutdown Shrink 3.2 before it even got started.So I decided to try 2.3 and no problems. I have yet to encounter a movie I haven't been able to conquer. With either the freebie version of clone dvd, shrink 2.3 & 3.2, and DVDD.
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Razor89
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21. July 2005 @ 21:17 |
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So this is shut down, only to wither away as the new protections outdate it. All the Corporate meatheads think they have it all figured out, shut down one, shut down one more, shut down another, and eventually, poof! they disappear. They are all wrong. Now that all the newer BT sites are being shut down, they figured a way around the law. Stating that the site is maintained by users so the owners have no liability. Once this law is changed, some clever person will read that fine print and find yet another loophole. Laws change continually, and so do the new protections. But so do the people. And I'm not talking about the damn meatheads mentioned above. I mean us. Nice job, UK, this makes me want to move to Sweden and sell myself until I can launch missiles at corporations in america and europe. Yes...Your strict laws make me want to be a terrorist you stupid meathead. DIE!
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Assi9
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26. July 2005 @ 02:42 |
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What about Alcohol 120%? That does the same thing (although I don't prefer it but have to use it to burn some files). Take it easy, thanks for the work and surely someone has started hacking away at it already and calling it something else. There is now other things to worry about besides RIAA and MPAA, there's the GMPA or whatever (some gaming protection group that shut down several release groups all over the world). It's not worth it. Rent the stuff and hack it at home and share with your friends and family and stay off the internet, lol. Gee there is another way they can combat copy protection...make the damn DVD movies cheaper! Release groups can make this stuff for free, so why can't they drop their price in half so it will be more convenient to buy than d/l. They have to compete with the technology and stop thinking how they don't need to change and that it's the fricken people on the internet's fault for their bad decisions. And they post those stupid "There are legal download sites you can get content at" then you do a search and the first 100 things to pop up are the illegal sites. I have looked all over for legal alternatives but they make no effort to compete and just try to make more money by threatening everyone. They don't want to stop file sharing because they can make a killing in settlements and not even have to produce more product. They can lay off their employees and live off law suits and then sue their ex employees when they download content and try to find cheaper ways to watch a fricken movie or play a fricken game. Most people just check out the movies and games and find out they are glad they didn't waste money on it.
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kaylin_s
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28. July 2005 @ 01:36 |
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Another sad day in this world..DVDDecrypter shot down in its hayday. The last few months have been a real roller coaster for me. I have had to deal with the loss of both of my parrents. Which has left me with time and money to do things I enjoy. I have been buying dvds left and right soem times by the thousands of dollars. Now befor you go to the next message saying this guy is gloating let me get to my point and all will be clear. Over the past few years like all off us I have commited "piracy". soem tiems it has been in the form o music soem times software and soem times movies. who knows like all of us. soem times we download what we want. but for many years i have claimed that "piracy" is the crutch used by media for low sales. the problem with the way it is looked at is if you have a "ill gotten" copy then it is "piracy" but lets look deeper how can you consider it "piracy" when the person woudlnt have bought it in the first play. case in point 13 yr old "johny" wants to learn to program. He fires up his pc and find nothing built in so what does he do he goes online and look and finds microsoft visual studio (for the laman software to program) for a meer $2000.00. well like most 13 yr olds he doesnt have that kind of money so what does he do now. p2p2me and gets him self a shining new copy of microsoft visual studio but unkown to him soem MS pinko is watching and report his ip and they bust him for "PIRACY". Is he guilty? The way the law read yes beyond a shadow of a doubt. but the real question is would have ever bought it in the first place. the question is no, do you realise how many yards you have to mow for that. he little cases are true all over the place music/movies/software. the real reaon for the beinning of my rant was to make a point.. I currently have replaced those thing with "legit" copies. not because i am upporting "anti-piracy" but hey look i am the intended maket. and i ahve chose to replace them. i mean who doesnt like prety packaging but at exorbent distribution rates for something that can be obviously gained for dolars a month with internet for little to nothing.. i think we need to re-evaluate how we look at our world.
well i have ranted enough
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28. July 2005 @ 11:14 |
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I agree with you. If a poor homeless person with only 50 cents to his name goes to the library or a cybercafe and downloads a bunch of music and puts it on a blank CD (that's what the 50 cents was for) for himself, the music industry never lost money - they never had it to begin with. There's no way his downloading music lead to a loss of sales, because he couldn't have made sales possible in the first place. All the same, they will spend thousands of dollars suing the poor guy and anyone else who downloads because they can't afford ridiculously priced music.
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wannadie
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28. July 2005 @ 12:48 |
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sup peeps well i am gonna make this simple to bad no one just make a .us just for us sence we have already a .com.org.net ofcourse we would make or use a law were even those companys couldn't sue .us :) remember if the companys can change laws so can we the people who make the companys and support them who in return sue us maybe if someone just as smart as them would step up to the plate and say or ask us to write letters to change the laws maybe just maybe we would get our way for once why can't we use the fact that we are muti billions and they are just a spic of dust well i sure would write a letter or vote for the law change maybe we should have them have a people tax where every penny well spend of there product is tax deductable wouldn't that make them rethink how to make more money haha it sure would make our wallets a lil more better but thats just a throught from many throughts that other have the thing we need to remember is the inter is a strong force and we all can use it how about this for the programers who make these asome stuff why not over flow the net with muti million dummy copys where there would have to take years to figure out instead of days how about not giving up who u are and just do what u do best say for instant if u had a copy of DD and made it to D@/DU/op/TY/Jlk/la/wr/ etc u get what i mean and so the hunt would begin with who the heck is making all these well we don't know i dougdt they would or could fine the few people who make them lets also rethink if hacker still can hack to this day then p2p/DD/etc should never fall we need to remember the law is currupted themselves as they figure suing those who buy and make the company who they are today just to get more money in to there wallets .... i will be back for any comments tonight or tommorrow
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forkndave
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28. July 2005 @ 13:50 |
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I believe that was the longest sentence I've ever seen.
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28. July 2005 @ 15:19 |
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You guys are actin' like your ENTITLED to illegally download copyrighted files.
If "Little Johnny" downloads VB, then the is commiting a criminal act, he is illegally downloading copyrighted files without the copyright holders permission.
Whether or not he has enough money is not the point! He is still downloading software that he would otherwise have to pay for, he is still committing an illegal offense which is wrong regardless of wether he can pay for it or not!
I am not in favour of ANY anti-piracy groups. I use p2p myself, I upload more than I download and I am proud to be contributing to the P2P industry, but I feel some things have to be cleared up.
-Mike
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wannadie
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28. July 2005 @ 16:35 |
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that is true of what u say mike but when will it stop u have gas/taxes/rent/etc shoot will it stop when only the rich can afford it or will they bring it back were all can enjoy it i beleave people are not saying they want it for free but they are willing to pay a decent price. And as for the other person who said my sence was the longest u have ever seen well atleaste i am more then just looking ......
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kaylin_s
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28. July 2005 @ 18:04 |
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mike apparently cant read i said the law said it was piracy. and i never said it was a right im saying the facts of our world.. the problem isnt piracy the problem is the artificial cost applied to all media.. cds came out and were 20$ for disc and were supposed to be the same price as cassettes but some how they stayed the same price. sorry its my take on the world
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sallyme
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28. July 2005 @ 19:15 |
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Hi, I was reading what every one wrote and i agree with both sides. I buy disney movies for my daughters they gost 16.99 -21.99 i copy them for we can have a set in the car (since i live in no where land )it cost me .42 cents a copy. my income is 25,00 a year so sorry to say if i happen to fine a movie i can download free off net i do and if i happen to no some one who makes and sells them for 4 bucks i buy . i buy more regular dvds if the price wasnt so high and \it is like this for me.i have to decide if i want my children to have movies to watch or not and prices are stupid i still buy all the disneys but i would really love to see them all go down a few dollars... sally
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28. July 2005 @ 22:02 |
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Oh, no doubt about it; it's illegal, Mik3h. I'm sure most here can acknowledge that. But what's legal and what's right don't always match up (homeless man example,) which is why so many are pissed at the music and movie industries.
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29. July 2005 @ 02:32 |
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I appreciate the comments but if the price is too high to afford then don't buy it. However much you may want the music/movie If you can't afford it then tough. Look for it second hand.
I do agree that the prices are unbelivably high when comparing them to the cost to manufacture the music/film, but they have to make profit. And yes, they could seem greedy, but their cutting a deal with you. You give us however much we charge, and we'll give you the item.
As unfair as this might sound, it is still reality, and unless people can buy the stuff then sure, go use P2P it's great! But don't criticize the anti-piracy groups for clamping down on us, it is still their job.
-Mike
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29. July 2005 @ 02:32 |
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EDIT : Double Clicked Post Button.
-Mike
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 29. July 2005 @ 02:33
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mytchm
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29. July 2005 @ 11:58 |
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Just a question.....
Here in Canada we pay a surcharge on blank media which is to subsidize (sp?) the music/movie industry for people who illegally copy content.
1. Since I am paying for it whether I do it or not does this mean I have acctually paid for the copy?
2. Since I paid the surcharge why should I feel bad about copying....I would certainly feel bad paying a fee I din't use...Is there any logic to this?
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29. July 2005 @ 23:04 |
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But don't criticize the anti-piracy groups for clamping down on us, it is still their job.
I don't want to come across too strong (I don't mean to flame) and I don't have a problem with that being your, and possibly many other people's, opinion, but I for one have to disagree.
An assassin is just doing his job when he kills people, but that doesn't mean there's nothing wrong with what he's doing. While anti-piracy groups aren't going so far as to kill people (I hope), they still are ruining thousands of people's lives with lawsuits. Many of these people may not have even known what they were doing was illegal, been innocent but paid so as not to go to court or simply couldn't afford to pay for the media they wanted. The fact that anti-piracy groups have a poorly written law behind them doesn't justify their actions; it only legalizes them.
Now, I don't expect what I wrote to change your opinion or anything like that - I just wanted to put in my two cents worth.
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30. July 2005 @ 01:18 |
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When I sat down to read my local newspaper, the front headline, was one woman had been driving dangerously, without insurance, and crashed, killing three people.
She got a £550 fine..
That very same day, I went to my local cinema to watch a movie, before it came on, there was a warning message, warning that if someone were to be caught recording a movie, they face upto an unlimited fine, and 10 years
imprisonment.
Sorry to go off topic there, but after experiencing this, I have to agree with you, you made some good points about people not even knowing they are commiting an illegal offense. I know people who didn't know it was illegal.
And the fact is, the punishment does not fit the crime! it doesen't come anywhere close.
Thankyou for pointing this out to me.
-Mike
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cygnus_09
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1. August 2005 @ 18:12 |
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FYI...When you BUY the movie,you are also BUYING the rights for that movie thru the taxes you pay on it. (Whether it's federal or otherwise) Since you have purchased the rights to that movie, you have the right to back it up for your own PERSONAL USE. Until the companies figure out how to sell movies that can be played on your own specific dvd player, and no one elses, they will have to live with the fact that if they didn't price the movies so high, people wouldn't be trying to rip them off with illigal copies.
And to Sallyme: Having kids of my own, I would be inclined to back-up the Disney movies,as opposed to buying them all over again. I know what kids can do to dvd's. Thank God for DVDD and other programs like that. Otherwise I would be in the poor-house after replacing the same movies over and over and over again.
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hkm
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2. August 2005 @ 00:01 |
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FYI...When you BUY the movie,you are also BUYING the rights for that movie... PERSONAL USE... Until the companies figure out how to sell movies that can be played on your own specific dvd player....
To answer the last section first, the movie industry, through a vendor working in association with the Academy of Motion Picture Arts & Sciences, DID try to adopt their own players that would ONLY specific DVD's -- in this case, DVD screeners for Academy Award eligible films. It was a spectacular failure, as could have been predicted. Had the trials succeeded, this would have meant that EVERY Academy member would be shipper (free) a special DVD player that would only play these relatively few DVD's. I went to a demo of this product was was totally under-whelmed. I wonder what the final cost was for this aborted project.
Now, to respond to your other point regarding "rights," the language really needs to be refined. When you buy a DVD or book or whatever, you own the PHYSICAL property, naturally. This gives you NO SPECIFIC RIGHTS regarding reproduction except in very small ways, such as you say, POSSIBLY reproduction for your own personal use. BETAMAX case, etc. Laws here are very much in need of revision and/or clarification. This doesn't mean, as some have interpreted it, that you can clone your DVD's or xerox your books and sell them or even hand them over free to others. Essentially the physical property is yours to do with as you wish, short of extending "ownership," which can be construed as use, to other persons/entities. The difference here is between physical property, which is yours, and intellectual property, which is decidedly not.
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g4linux
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8. August 2005 @ 18:54 |
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I have seen several posts on this board that indicate people are basically entering a "written confession" of an illegal act. Is this not a dangerous thing to do? I am just curious. Others have mentioned a donation as well. Would this not create some sort of paper trail leading to someone who is obviously making copies of DVD's? Again, I am not in any way burning anyone for using these tools do protect an investment of a DVD. This issue seems to still be a grey area of whether or not we are allowed to make backup copies of our DVD's. A "fair" decision may be reached soon, but, I am sure that it will be more in favor of "the company" than the consumer.
So, this again brings me to a question. With a board such as this, could it not be raided much like the online stores were by DirecTv regarding illegal use of smart card programming equipment? Seems like anyone who made any donations to LUK may be at risk. Especially anyone who may try to make a donation now. Another point, made in this thread was the point of some sort of surcharge in some countries being added to blank media. I don't know how many countries do this, but, it seems that blank DVD's and CD's are being sold by the stack of 100 like wildfire. Surely, it must be known that people are backing up thier games and movies and even audio CD's. Seems that just buying these items could one day make one's doorbell ring.
Am I way off base here? Just curious. Thanks!
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