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DVD Decrypter -- gone forever

article published on 6 June, 2005

Not really a good way to start a new week -- this just came in via our news submit (thanks Shoey): Hello world, I've got some good news and some bad news. Let's start with the good.... (tumble weed passes by)Ok, and now onto the bad: DVD Decrypter 3.5.4.0 is the last version you'll ever see.We hoped this day would never come, but it has, and I can promise you, nobody is more gutted about ... [ read the full article ]

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sallyme
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8. August 2005 @ 20:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I also buy blank dvds to stick pictures from my digital camera or pictures of family that i want to save . also i scan old phots of great great relatives figure that way chance of them getting destroy be less then paper.... so dvds are also used for other reasons :) sally
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8. August 2005 @ 22:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
And just because someone admits to decrypting a DVD doesn't mean they admit to illegally decrypting a DVD. In many less backward countries, circumventing copy-protection mechanisms to back-up something you own is still legal. Due to the unreliability of some information on the internet though, the integrity of a forum post generally isn't enough to get someone into court.
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8. August 2005 @ 23:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes, Sally, I understand that many folks use DVD's for many other purposes such as photos that can be absolutely HUGH! I did not mean to imply that most use is "illegal", as I also use them to do backups of my important data.

Thanks for your response nonoitall. Again, with the word "illegal", that would apply to folks in countries that consider the breaking the encryption to be illegal.

My thoughts regarding the written word in forums is the idea of investigation, much like when Napster was shut down. We also know of the battle with 321 Studios, where the issue seems to have been mainly related to the decryption of the CSS scrambling.

If "the company" wishes to pursue it, seems like a ring of the doorbell may happen one day, and you could say goodbye to all of your computer equipment, and all of your backed up DVD's, and be left to battle it out in the courts while you wait.

That brings my question about donations. This would seem to provide a paper trail to whomever decides they want to investigate some day.

Although, it does seem to be the case at least right now that "the company" is going after folks who post the DVD content on the web or make it available for download. Those who make backups may be further down on the list except for now.

Thanks for the input.
hkm
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9. August 2005 @ 13:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Re: comments having a copy of DVD Decrypter. Yeah, it's probably getting to the point in the good-ole US of A that this may be a crime as well. Who knows, with the Busch Gov't? The way I feel, it's sorta like getting busted for "drug paraphernalia." Absolutely NO drugs around, just an ole pipe, papers, whatever. Chilling....
Take a look at the DOJ defenitions of "drug paraphernalia:"

http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/concern/paraphernaliafact.html
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9. August 2005 @ 14:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I live in Canada. I do not know the laws on copying dvd's and I do not really care. I think it is dumb to police people all over the world so that tom cruise can make 20 million a movie. Actors act because of the love of the applause, yeah right. To the people that defend not burning movies I say wake up. Laws set up to support Billion dollar companys and rip off the average joe should be challenged. The companys making these movies should be held responsible if I don't like the movie, or the movie falls short of what I exspect. Would that be a good law? No because I do not have billions of dollars to advertise. Lets face it, if the film is good people will rush to the theater to see it. If the movie is good people will copy it, but if the film is GREAT, people will buy it.
dnjbva
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9. August 2005 @ 14:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
By the way I am having trouble ripping XXX state of the union, Any help would be great. lmao
sallyme
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9. August 2005 @ 14:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i did xxx state of the union the first time didnt shrink said some eror so i just decrypt it again on a differnt burner and it worked :
golucky
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4. September 2005 @ 11:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
sad day this, poor us that, damn greedy movie industry!!
what the hell are you guys talking about!?
we all know we are the greedy ones trying to get movies and games for free. I'll be the first to admit i don't like that DVD Decrypter is gone, but lets not pretend that we are the victims. We are simply the looters that are pissed off that we got caught.
dnjbva
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21. September 2005 @ 10:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
This is for golucky. Get a life man. We are the looters? You must work for the government lol. The same companies that make the burners for our computers ( SONY) make movies that they want to PROTECT from the criminals that bought the burners. If they feel that strongly about this problem why oh why do they not STOP making the burners? You can say what you want about this but, if you and I were the ones making money off every part of the industry including the so called thief of the movie, we would be laughing also. It is funny that the movie industry has posted hugh profits this year, a lot more then they thought they would make with this crazy thief going on. What a joke, we are the looters.
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23. September 2005 @ 07:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just an observation......

If these DVDs were priced without the current level of unabashed greed, nobody would bother taking all the time to make a copy (for illegal purposes) as it would simply not pay enough. The greedy have always spawned their own competition just as every dragon gives birth to the Saint George that will eventually slay it.

As they told "Cool Hand Luke"...... what we have here is a failure to communicate......
johnlu
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23. September 2005 @ 09:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
After buying a dvd or cd if it get dammage, the company will not replace the dvd or cd for free.
you will have to go out and perchest another one at $20
or $15 is that right.After buying a movie or a cd why
can't you make a back up copy for yourself so incase the cd gets dammage you will have it, after all you paid good money for it.May the Cmpanies stand to make a
profit when you have to buy the same move 2 times.I do not support selling movies or music or even burning it if you don't own it.
johnlu
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23. September 2005 @ 10:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
After buying a dvd or cd if it get dammage, the company will not replace the dvd or cd for free.
you will have to go out and perchest another one at $20
or $15 is that right.After buying a movie or a cd why
can't you make a back up copy for yourself so incase the cd gets dammage you will have it, after all you paid good money for it.Maybe the Cmpanies stand to make a profit when you have to buy the same move 2 times.I do not support selling movies or music or even burning it if you don't own it.
TheSting
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23. September 2005 @ 11:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I really liked DVD Decrypter but if you have Nero all you need is DVD43. You can find it at (www.DVD43.com). I wonder how long DVD43 will last.....
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2. October 2005 @ 06:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I don't know much about DVD Decrypter and havn't used it but it sounds like it was a frontend to some already available backend code. I appreciate LIGHTNING UK's hard work, but it's too bad the code wasn't open-source. This way any programmer from anywhere in the world could continue this project. This is the power of free open-source software.
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2. October 2005 @ 12:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi just my 2 cents worth I have had my burner for 12mths now & in that time I have hired 200/300 movies before that I would not hired more then 10 over 10 years.it cheeses me off having to watch them & take them back in 24 hrs now I can watch them in my time. If ever they made movies I could not copy I would go back to renting one per year.

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2. October 2005 @ 12:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Firstly, i'm from the Philippines. The piracy technology there if legalized would make DVDs $2 each! That's how much I paid for mine, and they were ALL DVD quality. The days of buying a pirated DVD turning out to be a guy sitting in some theatre with a handheld video camera are over with... consumer demand in Manila has made the very best quality come out for the DVD market. 2 Dollars each. Just think of it. I used to buy 20 movies a DAY and marathon it all night in the summer. Brilliant for hardcore movies addicts like myself. There's still hope so long as we have places like this still in the world! = )

Secondly, if theres always been one thing ive seen constant, is that there will ALWAYS be a way around something... esepecially if a lot of people want it. I say, just move on to the next program. Nap-thingee then it was Kaaz-thingee then lime-thing and so on and so on... somebody will make something new. So now DVD Decryptor is dieing... someone will eventually make DVD Decipherer (hehe), am I right? Have a little faith = )

"Of course were speaking Jebadiah. You're fired."

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docbill
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22. October 2005 @ 21:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I wonder how long before google is forced to filter searches. Afterall, Google's links allowed me to find DVD Decryptor which in turn allowed me to backup DVD's. As a US registered company, Google is violating the Digital Millenium Act by aiding users to circumvent encryption. It is a crime to aid in circumventing encryption... Next they shut down Microsoft. Afterall, there operating system allowed me to run DVD Decryptor, thus aiding me in circumventing digitial encryption. Fortunately, the courts ruled you can circumvent encryption, you just can not aid others. So I have not broken any US laws backing up my disks.


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23. October 2005 @ 05:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I believe that an agreement was reached between the maker and the industry.

It goes like this:

You stop the propagation of your decrypting freeware and the industry will not prosecute you...and as a gesture of goodwill we will give you $10,000,000.00

That´s the end of the story....

However, somewhere, somehow, somebody will come up with something new.

Instead of offering it for free...I´m willing to dish out $5.00 bucks
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23. October 2005 @ 05:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
and on the matter of pyracy...

KEEP IT UP!!!

There are places where you can get all the software U want for about 3 bucks a piece...that includes MICROSOFT, ADOBE and all others

The Chinese are good at that.
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23. October 2005 @ 05:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I bought it, paid for it, it´s mine AND I DO WITH IT WHATEVER THE F$%%k I WANT.

period!

If I am allowed to make a backup copy...who sez that I did not loose it, and had to make another one.

Also...it sez that U cannot watch it (in your own home) with more than 2 people, otherwise it is considered public wiewing.

Besides, whoever has that 321 program...KEEP IT and pass it on to all of us.

If a fee is required...we can talk about it. Make it cheap.

I know of some people that go to the PUBLIC LIBRARIES, get their DVDs, CDs, VHSs and take the home and copy.
sallyme
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23. October 2005 @ 18:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I use this one http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/dvd_rippers/dvdf...
dvd fab decrypter is simple and works great .
DJGEOJOE
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25. October 2005 @ 15:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just have to say that its sad. So long DVD Decrypter, we will miss ya! Oh, yea DOWN WITH THE MAN! Nuf said.

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25. October 2005 @ 20:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
damm sad day indeed hearing this great proggy is no more

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luvsoccer
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12. November 2005 @ 15:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I FEEL LIKE I TOTAL IDIOT... BUT ISN'T THE DVD Decrypter NOT LEGAL. IF NOT I HAVE SOMETHING LIKE IT AND I'M WONDERING HOW WHAT TO DO WITH THE VIEDO AFTER I Decrypt IT. NETHING WILL HELP- THANX!!!
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12. November 2005 @ 15:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Decrypter is still alive and kicking. I use it for all ARccOS movies I back up without using a PSL or any help from programs like AnyDVD.

As for the previous poster, after you rip the movie you will either have to Burn the ISO/DVD Folder or compress it.

If you have DVDR DL media, just rip in ISO mode and then write the ISO. If you do not, Download something like DVD Shrink. Then, load the ISO or DVD Folder and compress the DVD. You will then be able to burn the movie to a DVDR.
 
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