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DVD Decrypter -- gone forever
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The following comments relate to this news article:
article published on 6 June, 2005
Not really a good way to start a new week -- this just came in via our news submit (thanks Shoey):
Hello world,
I've got some good news and some bad news. Let's start with the good.... (tumble weed passes by)Ok, and now onto the bad: DVD Decrypter 3.5.4.0 is the last version you'll ever see.We hoped this day would never come, but it has, and I can promise you, nobody is more gutted about ... [ read the full article ]
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aabbccdd
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12. November 2005 @ 15:52 |
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jwo62
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12. November 2005 @ 15:55 |
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@JaguarGod,
I'm just a little curious,How do you decrypt Arccos titles with DVDD without a PSL file.
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JaguarGod
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12. November 2005 @ 15:57 |
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luvsoccer
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12. November 2005 @ 16:17 |
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What exactly is an ISO/DVD folder?
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JaguarGod
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12. November 2005 @ 16:24 |
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An ISO is a disc image. If you are using DVD Decrypter you would go into ISO Read mode.
A DVD Folder is a folder named "VIDEO_TS" that contains all the VOB, IFO and BUP files. To rip a DVD folder, you need to go into File Mode.
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jwo62
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12. November 2005 @ 16:25 |
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Very nice guide JaguarGod.
Personaly,I use Dvd95Copy,which is not affected at all by arccos,But its nice to know that the job can still be done with freeware.
there is also a psl creator plugin for PGCedit available now.
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20. December 2005 @ 14:38 |
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look Trung8221 its a ticking timebomb before slysoft is targeted.long live DVDD my first backup was made by u
the once ultimate ripper R.I.P. macrovision is stupid and ************** .etc
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jwo62
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20. December 2005 @ 14:56 |
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Trung8221 wrote that post 6 months ago. I guess the "time bomb" has been ticking a long time.
The country that Slysoft is located in doesnt have laws against making backup software.
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JaguarGod
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21. December 2005 @ 08:55 |
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The country that Slysoft is located in doesnt have laws against making backup software.
This is true, but the laws can easily change. It all depends on the goverment. DVDD was stopped because of a change in the law, so nothing is safe, it just seems that Slysoft will be fine for at least a few years.
Even if you have AnyDVD, I would still recommend having DVDD, because if Slysoft gets shut down, DVDD can always be manually updated via a PSL file or you can use the guide I posted in the newbie forums.
Programs like DVDFab and AnyDVD are great, but the way they are set up, they cannot handle new variations of a corruption without an update, so if one is shut down, then when a new variation comes out, the program will not work on it period. If you have DVDD, you can always make it work, like in the Newbie guide I posted where I ripped Stealth using DVD Decrypter from may of 2002 with no errors and no hangs.
And for those that think that Slysoft will never get shut down because it is in Antigua, I am sure Antigua still has some type of copyright laws. Given the right amount of money from certain companies to a corrupt official, I am sure that the laws can be modified.
I own AnyDVD (and CloneDVD) and love it and hope it stays for good, but I still have and use DVD Decrypter for pretty much all my backups.
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jwo62
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21. December 2005 @ 15:04 |
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Of course laws can be changed,but I think that the point is that the UK (where LUK is located) already had a law against it already. that WAS a ticking time bomb.
Antigua's laws could be changed,(I guess,I dont really know anything about antigua)but I would guess that there would be some advance notice to slysoft that changes are in the works. and perhaps they could move to a new location.
I do agree that DVDD is an ESSENTIAL tool in dvd backup. no matter what other programs one has.
Personaly,I use Dvd95copy to decrypt,It cuts right through arccos and ripguard like its not even there.
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Soundfx4
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28. February 2006 @ 16:51 |
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The reason you can't is because these large corporations are GREEDY ASSHOLE SOBS THAT NEED TO DIE! Of course this is going to piss more people off, and everyone will buy less movies! They are shooting themselves in the foot. I know I'm never going to buy another movie again! Just because of this, and several other stunts these assholes have pulled! (well, OK, maybe a few of the ones that I REALLY want) Anyway, F**K YOU MPAA, and RIAA! I hope you all burn in hell!
oh yeah, and the little FBI anti-piracy logo f**king up the disc art on newer DVDs is pissing me off as well. I don't want that logo f**king up the front of my disc! If anything that makes me NOT want to buy movies!
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Lordsleg
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5. April 2006 @ 11:45 |
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We pay for DVD's at best buys ect. and when one of them get scratched we have to pay to replace it if we like the dvd. Heres were my complaint comes in. On VHs tapes, they lasted longer than dvd's. DvD's seam to scratch easy and dont work after a while.
So i beleive that all americans and non americans should get to gether and mail 1 dolklar ten dollers or what ever you think will help to get a few lawyers to do a class action lawsuit against hollywood who is behinde it all. let just say 1 mion people send 100 dollars and we end up suing onthe average of a thousand dollars perperson i think hollywood would go out of business over it. because the onslaught of people doing the same would be enormouse. Like in the hundreds of millions. its something to think about. and if any one would like to join me in this idea i would be willing to take a shot at it as the head of it and see where this could go.
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5. April 2006 @ 18:47 |
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sounds like a good idea but this will never take off. Even though DVD Decrypter is no longer in service there are other great utilities to help us bypass these copy protections.
Even though some country's are not free from fair use to make backups...thank GOD we have the internet.
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Lordsleg
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6. April 2006 @ 09:39 |
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Never say never, All it take is some one willing to take the challenge and a lot of people backing that person up and a lot can happen. I think that we need to stand up to this tyrant greed monsters like Hollywood and Sony?s of the world. I know a lot of people will hide for the fact they don?t have freedom to do so. But I am willing to stand up to these monsters that take your money and impose stupid laws that say you cant back up your DVD collections. Even if there are people doing it illegal it doesn?t add up to much and not as nearly as much as all those big tycoons that make billions showing movies in the theaters and on DVD?s. So I propose that we start up a web site with a link and form page and a P.O. Box to where people could send info about what these companies are doing, and also a place to send money to start a class action law suit.
I would like to hear what people think about it. If any one has any good or bad comments I would appreciate hearing what you have to say. All information will determine what action I may start towards.
If we let the little things slip by so will our freedom one day. These big companies don?t care about you other than your money that?s in your bank account. We must stand up to these greedy organizations and show them that the little people count when were in numbers. United we stand, separated we shoal fall.
As the Romans were a great army due to there numbers, and so can we in the use of money and lawyers will be our weapons. The pen now days is more mightier than the sword.
Fight for your wrights because no one will!
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batman100
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6. April 2006 @ 18:12 |
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Hey Lordsleg I like the idea. But first: I'm a newbe,do we need to start a new thread, It seems we have ran way off course and may get more attention if we start fresh. But anyway, what your talking about is " Politics ". The MPAA,RIAA,RCA,SONY,MGM etc...
" BUY " the votes in congress. Your idea is great however your talking about HUGE money to take a case to the supreme court. Is their an organization that is already working on this? If so, maybe we need to find and get behind it before this very site becomes illegal. To let you know what laws we are really breaking. http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/cybercrime/ipmanual/03ipma.htm
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Jon552
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19. April 2006 @ 17:43 |
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I am going to get flamed for this but I think it needs to be said. While I support the software in that there are good uses for it, including editing differnt versions of movies (Star Wars comes to mind)and think that yes the movie studios definitely need to lower the prices in theatres and start offering movies for download with better terms, you people downloading movies and buying pirated ones disgust me. I make my own films and hope to make it in filmmaking one day. Do you people not realize that it costs money to make movies? A LOT of money. Many people struggle for years making nothing before they make it "big". SO when they do, they have every damn right to make lots of money off of the movies. You people downloading and pirating are selfish. You are contributing nothing to society by preventing money flowing into the economy and you are stealing material that is not yours unless you pay for it. Copyrighted material is copyrighted. Period. While I realize this will do nothing to make any of you change your minds; I have a friend just like you who refuses to budge, you should take a look at yourself. And even if something is too expensive, does that make it right to steal it? No! You don't steal fancy car because you can't afford it do you? Well maybe some of you do but it clearly isn't right. So how are movies and software any different? Don't get me wrong, if a company screws me over, I will pirate. But in most cases, the companies are acting well within the bounds of reason. In addition, what do you people think will happen if piracy continues to grow as it is? As they lose profits, it will become more and more difficult to operate. And thus the amount of movies being made will diminish and the studios, less willing to take risks, will go, as they have increasingly been doing, go for crap movies. Have some morals damnit. Think of someone other than yourself. Or, put yourself in the place of a filmmaker who has struggled for years and finally made it. If you worked for years living off of next to nothing and suddenly had a hit, wouldn't you want to cash in as much as possible? Especially if your next movies could be total flops. Hopefully you guys will spend some time thinking about this... but I won't get my hopes up...
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JaguarGod
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19. April 2006 @ 20:14 |
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No! You don't steal fancy car because you can't afford it do you?
You are correct, however, with cars you have a choice. You can buy a car for under $10,000 new or get a fancy car for half a million. With DVDs, there is no choice. There are no low priced alternatives...
As for people in the movie industry, you are looking at it completely wrong. You are probably an independent film maker. That is completely different. The MPAA is just like the mob. They make all the money and give a little to the people that work hard. There are lots of writers, producers, directors, etc... that don't make a cent, but the actual company that owns them is making lots of $$$$.
If you are an independent film maker, it does cost money to make a movie, but only because you are working with no capital. These studios get lots of investors so there is less risk. For you it may actually cost you $5 per DVD, but for hollywood, it is probably well under $1 per DVD. I think all they pay are licensing costs for Copy protection & DVD Production costs (both physical and artistic).
For Theaters (actaully for the total cost of a movie) sure it costs about $300,000,000 for most movies, but keep in mind that about about 2/3 goes to marketing (half to three or four big name actors and half to actual ads and such) and most of the rest goes to special effects. I bet they can pull of a movie for under $1,000,000 and it would be impossible to tell the difference from a $300,000,000 movie in terms of quality. Hardware, studio time, directing and writing does not make up the majority of the cost any more.
As for you making movies, good luck with that. I may get into that later on, but I need more free time. I plan to do 95% of the work myself including filming, writing, editing, directing, starring, producing, etc...
However, pirating can be the best thing to happen to you if you make films. What better advertising can you have then for someone to sell your movies to markets that you do not have access to. Sure you do not make any money from it, but your name gets out (make sure it does). Think of it this way, Hollywood pays millions and millions of $$ to get a movie's name out there and you can do it for free without any effort from you!!!
For Hollywood it is not worth it because they already spend lots of moey on ads, so piracy only cuts into their profits even if only a fraction of a percent...
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Jon552
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22. April 2006 @ 14:12 |
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Yes, you make some good points. I suppose I shou;dn't have been quite so harsh and I apologize for that. While some of your points are pretty good, I still don't quite agree. Even if you don't have another lower priced option for say DVD's, well that's just the way things go. And studios have to make profits. I'll be honest, I'm more of a capitalist - surprise - how many filmmakers are capitalist? haha - and I don't subscribe to the notion that studios are such big bad companies. While I agree they definitely need to improve, for example lower theatrical prices, better movies: less crap, and less screwing over of people who actually buy movies and want to say have them on their laptop - point is they could be more leniant. Nonetheless when I watch movies, I go to my local video store and rent one. It costs a few bucks and I get it for a day or two. If I like it enough I watch it twice. If there is a movie I really like, like Lord of the Rings, then I will buy the DVD, like the Extended editition, and I continue that good value. Anyways, nuff said and thanks for the encouragement! You should definitely get into it too. Cheers
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cygnus_09
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28. April 2006 @ 07:31 |
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Jon552- "While I agree they definitely need to improve,... people who actually buy movies and want to say have them on their laptop"...
I think that is the main reason that people use programs like DVDD etc. Like you, I go to the local video store and rent the movie. If I like it enough, like you, I buy it. But that is where the difference begins(I think). I back my copy up. With kids around, the movie doesn't last too long. So I only keep the back-ups out in the livingroom. I refuse to buy the same movie over and over and over again. If I had to buy the same movies over and over, it would be wise of me to buy some stock in MGM, or whoever, 'cause I would be funding a small studio, with the amount of cash I would be shelling out to the movie companies.
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28. April 2006 @ 10:18 |
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JaguarGod
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're young. When you grow up and gain a basic understanding of economics, please post again, because your post is 95% BS: myth and perverted facts.
The gist of your argument seems to be that it's OK to steal from big studios because they have lots of money and waste lots of money.
It doesn't matter. It's their content and you're stealing it. Period.
Now, I pirate too. I feel that if I buy a piece of media I should be allowed to manipulate it in whatever way I want for my own person use. Fair use rulings have upheld this in the US. DRM intended to prevent casual theft (sharing of content) have evolved into prevention of legitimate use by paying consumers in order to generate more profit for the content companies. This was never the intent of copyright and as such I have no regard for it.
But you do all of us a disservice and cause the loss of tools such as DVDDecrypter when you abuse our freedoms and preach open theft simply because you don't happen to like the way a product is produced/sold. You have the right not to buy it, but not the right to steal it.
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batman100
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30. April 2006 @ 22:49 |
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Hey Jon, you are right to defend your work from theft. Everyone should be paid for their work.I think a lot of the controversy
is about who is working and who is getting paid. I would like to see your work and also pay you a reasonable price for viewing it. I want to support the artists of our world so they will continue to create. What are we without art? You are also right in that we do need the big companys to get the art into circulation. Now here is where the problem begins. The world respects you for your creativity and hard work. We ALL want to reward YOU for your work. However, we do NOT respect the greedy corporations that profit on your work. The income and outflow is far out of proportion. The company gets 80% because they are your only outlet. We all view them as greedy and corupt. Therefore we have no respect for the SOURCE of the material. Unfortunately you are part of the source. This chain of events brings us to the good points Cygnus, Shraven and Jaguar have made. The real question is "what is theft". The law as it is now written states "ANY copying is illegal unless it is during the process of repair and then must be immediatly erased after repair is complete".I have several links on previous posts. If I'm wrong please point me to the most recent ruling.
But laws are enforced by the interpretation of a judge. I think cygnus making backups is just plain smart. I have kids and I do the same thing. Is it legal? NO. But people only obey laws that make sense. Morality and the law are not the same. It may be illegal but I don't beleive it's Wrong. This is why people run stop signs. However, I do beleive it's wrong to distribute or receive copies.
If you can make your film avalable online you may be able to start a path around the system. I'd like to see your work. Would you want me to make copies and give them to my friends? You would reach more people that way wouldn't you?
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Lordsleg
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1. June 2006 @ 07:35 |
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Well i have listen to what people are saying and i think we have lost the fact that if you buy a movie and want to make a back up of it you are then making an illegal copy. when i posted a while ago about go9ing up against hollywood it was for the fact that the dvd's have a problem where they stop for a second or two and then move on. that is a flaw in craftmenship and they knew about it. so i feel they owe us money back, because now they making another dvd called HD dvd or Blue ray technology where you have to buy another dvd player that cost $500-&1000 dollars and the dvd's are going to be some were around 39 to 50 dollars. this is a big stink to use technology as a loop hole to get out of trouble that they knew about the dvd flaw and instead of giving us an up grade they are going to charge us for it.
VHS tapes nver stoped in the middle of a move inless the tape was broken. are you seeing were im going with this. this not about piracy by more about our rights as humanbeings and the big companies are walking all over them.
I never maid this as a right to copy movies for piracy but more to back up what i have bought and paid for. We should always pay for a movie that some one has made for our entertainment. I just feel like our rights have gone out the door when they say you cant make back ups of your originals. So we should get a class action law suit against these tyrants ahd make them pay for selling us a product that has flaws in its craftmenship and not allow them to use new technology to move on pass this big mistake they made on purpose.
Any one who doesnt agree with this is either part of the corpersation where against or a pirate that knows he or she is stealing, or some one who doesnt do much research about what they payfor.
Well i see that most of the comments were on a piracy level or a want to be film maker in the indapendant feild which hollywood is now trying to dip into to mess over all those indapendant film makers over. so you see hollywood is a moster or big greedy beast that needs a spanking.
I am working on a website for every one to go to and support us as americans and non americans in a venture to sue hollywood and sony over this flaw they have sold us all on before they sweep it un the matt with a new HDDVD class of software.
let me know what your ideas are about what i have said on this thread.
Fight for your wrights because no one will!
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JaguarGod
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1. June 2006 @ 15:11 |
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Are you talking about the pause in the layer breaks?? Yeah, those are intentional, but they only affect older movies. Making a backup effectively eliminates this problem as long as you remove the layer break and change the the cell playback to seemless. HOwever, this does take away from the entertainment value of the movie, so there is a chance that you have something there.
Another thing that making a backup fixes is badly pressed or scratched DVDs. A good PC drive can read through lots of read errors that DVD Players cannot.
However, in terms of our rights when we buy movies, you are breaking the exact same law when you watch a movie with your children or siblings because it is illegal to watch a movie with more than one other person as this qualifies as public viewing. Also, it is illegal to watch a movie in an unauthorized player meaning that you are limited in how many players you can use. Blue Ray has some feature that prevents that.
Also, if you buy something, why should someone care what you do with it. When I bu a baseball bat, am I violating laws by using it to tear down a wall or tenderize meat??? No, because I own it and can do what I want with it. Now, by putting these protections and laws to prevent backups takes away our ownership of the DVD/CD/VHS whatever the item may be. Maybe I would like to smash the DVD to bits with a sledge hammer, but since that is unauthorized use of the DVD, I could be hauled away to jail because of it...
You never actually buy a DVD, you only buy the permission to be able to watch a movie. The disc, movie, case, everything associated with it, etc... belongs to the MPAA not you. You can probably go to jail for talking about a movie in public because you are giving a free public screening and are potentially costing $$$ to the companies that own the movie... Right now they do not have the power to enforce this law, but in the future who knows...
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TheGarbo
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25. June 2006 @ 15:35 |
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The reason I used DVDD was because of the stupid Region Codes. You only get a certain amount of changes befeore you have to pay to get your player reset. This is really a case of doubledipping by the recorder and player companies.
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28. June 2006 @ 20:14 |
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using AnyDVD makes all your dvds region free ,problem solved
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