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16. June 2005 @ 10:33 |
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Hi, I got some GENERIC DVD-R's and ran DVD Identifier and it said that the manufacturer name was Taiyo Yuden Co. Ltd. Is that good enough to make backups of PS2 Games with???
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16. June 2005 @ 10:37 |
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not necessarily, TY are the most faked media. Surely the media isn't actually called 'generic' ?
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16. June 2005 @ 10:44 |
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Well it Doesnt have a name. Its all blank, Just DVD-R's. But I ran them through DVD Identifier and it said Taiyo Yuden Co.
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16. June 2005 @ 10:49 |
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16. June 2005 @ 11:12 |
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The answer to your original question is yes (if the disks are original TY). You probably won't get a better disk to backup PS2 games to, but you'll need to ensure that you keep the burn speed down to a minimum for best results. You may already know what software to use, but if not, then try DVD Decrypter. If after this, they don't work, then you have probably got a batch from someone else.
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16. June 2005 @ 11:27 |
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This is what I got from my Media:
Region information : N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID : TYG02
Format Capacity : Blank Disc
Free Blocks : 411107328
Free Capacity : 4.38GB(4.71GB)
Book Type : DVD-R
Media Type : DVD-R
Manufacturer Rated Speed: 8.0x 11080KBps
Available Write Descriptor : CLV 8.0x 11080KBps
Available Write Descriptor : CLV 6.0x 8310KBps
Available Write Descriptor: CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor: CLV 2.0x 2770KBps
Write Strategy Speed : 4.0x 5540KBps
2x Speed OPC beta : 08
2x Speed OPC power: 0E
2x Write Strategy field 1 : 11 87 78 80
2x Write Strategy field 2 : 88 80 00 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta : 06
4x Speed OPC power : 13
4x Write Strategy field 1 : 0D 10 0E 07
4x Write Strategy field 2 : 97 07 0D 0B
4x Write Strategy field 3 : 80 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta multi-pulse : 06
4x Speed OPC power multi-pulse : 18
4x Write Strategy field 4 : 17 85 78 75
4x Write Strategy field 5 : D6 89 A8 92 01 20
4x Write Strategy field 6 : 10 00 D0 00 00
Data area starting sector : 30000h
Linear Density : 0.267um/bit
Track Density : 0.74um/track
Number of Layers : 1
Complete Media Code :
00000000 00 6C 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 87 0D 10 .l...@....R.....
00000010 66 78 80 00 03 54 59 47 30 32 00 00 04 00 00 00 fx...TYG02......
00000020 00 00 00 00 05 AA A2 22 22 20 02 00 06 08 0E 11 ......."" ......
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16. June 2005 @ 11:31 |
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The 'TYG02' code is not sufficient on it's own to prove these are genuine. Pls look at the two links i posted further up the page (there should be codes around the inner hub of the discs that will confirm whether or not these discs are genuine
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16. June 2005 @ 11:34 |
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The only numbers I see around the inner hub say: T1017
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16. June 2005 @ 11:35 |
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do they match anything in those two links ?
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16. June 2005 @ 11:37 |
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No, but they are all talking about TYG03's
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16. June 2005 @ 11:38 |
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Maybe I will do a test on it with DVD INFO PRO, to see if there good.
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16. June 2005 @ 11:39 |
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not those numbers, the longer numbers which are on the inner hub.
Mine are GG000107, but there are others
i've sent 'Mister TY' a private message so he should be able to sort you out..
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16. June 2005 @ 11:40 |
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the media code is still not sufficient, more help hopefully coming shortly. In the meantime re-read those links and all will become clear.
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16. June 2005 @ 12:50 |
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hello, just got the PM from my buddy creaky, from what your telling me, you got your hands on some FAKES...unless you can find a LONGER number that starts with GGxxxxxxxxx, TGxxxxxxxxx, TTxxxxxxxxx or GDxxxxxxxx (with the "x" being numbers, some less numbers, some are more...but they all start with a 2 letter prefix)
i have some FAKE ty's here right now and the coding on the inner hub is as FOLLOWS : -r8x dh-05-19 314 0109
a REAL TY code i have here is : GD000535 this is for a 4x TY dvd-r
please check to see if you have any OTHER numbers faintly inscribed on the inner hub~ based on the info you provided, i have a strong hunch they are FAKES~ reason for this is, your dvd identifier scan is IDENTICAL to my own FAKE TY scan~ that is why i ALWAYS mention that a software media code identifier is NOT a sure fire way to tell authenticity of particular media~
i have 2 sets of fake TYs actually, one of them after scanning the media ID is IDENTICAL to yours...they are 8x dvd-r as well~ TYGO2 coding, but i KNOW for a fact MINE were made in TAIWAN, i can assure you right here and now that NO AUTHENTIC TAIYO YUDEN will EVER be manufactured in Taiwan~ that last statement was verified by a Taiyo Yuden North America representative that i have regularly been in contact with since i joined AD, straight from the horses mouth you could say~ :)
unless you can provide more numbers for me daviel100, i will have to say you got yourself some FAKE TYs unfortunately~ :(
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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16. June 2005 @ 13:02 |
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cheers kivory666, the puzzle's coming together now...
all that's missing afterf that is whether these are good enough to get decent backups out of.....
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16. June 2005 @ 13:03 |
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Ok, I guess I have fakes. What about CMC Magnetics Corp. Are they any good??? And how do I know if my fakes are still good enough for backups???
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16. June 2005 @ 13:05 |
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!!!!!!!! to the CMC. ARGHHHHHH!!!
:)
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16. June 2005 @ 13:06 |
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look at the 2nd link in my signature. The title in bold should make you run away though, never mind the content!!
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16. June 2005 @ 13:07 |
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Ok, I guess CMC is BAD :( (Looks like I have some lousy media!!!) Is there any way to find out if the TY Fakes (the generics) are good enough to use as backups???
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16. June 2005 @ 13:11 |
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WOAH~ i would use your FAKE TYs OVER the CMC MAGS~ ahhhhhhhhhhhh~ RUN DAVIEL RUN~!!
hehehe.
as bad as fake TYs might be, since i know firsthand how horrible and inconsistent MY FAKE TYs are...i would still rate them higher than anything made by CMC MAGs...they are definitely the BOTTOM OF THE RUNG...i would consider actually putting a small pizza into my burner before i ever use another CMC MAG~
yes, if you can't already tell, i really dislike that trash media they call CMC MAG~ :)
good luck daviel~ since you're having some bad luck w/ getting your hands on FAKE TYs...might you consider trying some good quality Verbatims? there aren't any "fake ones" that i know about just yet...it's a good time to try some good ole' MCC = Mitsubishi Chemicals Corp. ones~ that would be MY personal suggestion if you've been shocked by the whole FAKE TY thing~
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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16. June 2005 @ 13:11 |
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oops double post
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16. June 2005 @ 13:11 |
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keep the burn speed right down (i don't do PS2 backups myself even though i have a PS2, but i read it's best to keep the speed right down, maybe even a shocking 1 or possibly 2speed)
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16. June 2005 @ 13:14 |
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yup, no arguments from me on the Verabtim recommendation, not that i'm biased or anything :)
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16. June 2005 @ 13:15 |
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well, i guess the only way you could ACTUALLY tell if your fakes/other media is good enough for your backups, is to actually TRY them out...bear in mind, i would suggest burning at a VERY low speed...4x or even slower if your burner allows it~ that is the ONLY way i can think of to actually "test" to see if they are good enough to play~ how long will they LAST after burning, IF they will even play...that is a completely different subject altogether~ :)
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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16. June 2005 @ 13:15 |
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Ok,Since everyone has been telling me to buy some Verbatims, I guess I will. I found a good price on them at Amazon.com a 100 pack for $34!!!
Thanks for you help!!
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