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obba
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21. June 2005 @ 23:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi there,
I have imported, using MS Movie Maker from my Canon Mv700i camera. A full 60minute tape comes out as an AVI at about 11Gb. yet when made into a DVD, it's only about 2.2Gb. So i can fit two tapes onto a DVD.

I have tried 4 different AVI joiners and they all spit the dummy as the files are too big.

Does anyone know of a AVI Joiner that handles these files?

I'll include some FAQs here.

1) Win XP HOME, GT6800, 1Gb Ram, Pioneer 109, P4 3.4Ghz
The Canon software is rubbish.
The MS software wants to (for small size convert to WMV).
I have lost quality when using every other method to convert 'this and that into this and that'.

When i have an 11Gb AVI file and burn it into a DVD, the quality is brilliant. So if i can just join these size files together then i'm rockin and rollin!

Please note i have now tried 4 or 5 different AVI joiners.

Cheers,

Alan.
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aldaco12
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21. June 2005 @ 23:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I don't know, but maybe the characteristics of those AVI files are slightly different. Are you sure their fps (of coure it should be), and resolution (X x Y) are the same?

So, my question is: why are you trying to join all AVIs before converting them into DVD movies and not of joining the DVD mpegs/video+audio streams you're making , after you converted AVI --> M2V+WAV?
I never tried to join DVD movies (I use DVDs only for 'real' 2hrs movies, not for home-made clips) but, for instance, if you had to make some (S)VCD streams you could join them immedatly (and author them with DVD Lab on a DVD-R later), as described in http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/womble_mpeg_join_tutorial.cfm ....

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 21. June 2005 @ 23:33

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22. June 2005 @ 07:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The stuff you're getting is DV-AVI, and most "joiners" suck anyhow, and I haven't found one yet, that will accurately and properly join DV files.
The ONLY thing that works (for me) is VirtualDub, with the Panasonic DV codec.
Frameserve it to your encoder.
If you want to convert to mpeg-2 first, then join, I would recommend Womble mpeg wizard, or mpeg-vcr, although TMPGEnc will also do it, using the merge function in it's mpeg tools.

Black holes are where God divided by zero...
Cheers, Jim
obba
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22. June 2005 @ 19:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi rebootJim,

Yes your right, it is DV-AVI.

I personally used media4pc.com avijoiner and it does a great job with these DV-AVI files - as long as they are under 2Gb. Then i use VSO Divx to DVD to make a DVD Video - very fast and easy to use and keeps all the quality.

I'll try your virtuadub and see how it goes. I only want to join (two tapes), two files (11Gb and 9.5G), together to make a single DVD Video. VSO Divx to DVD has no problem with 10Gb or more files. So my initial 'needs' was to try and get a DV-AVI joiner that handles more than the 2Gb limit.

Thanks for everyones help and if anyone hears anything further, i'll keep checking this post.

Alan.
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23. June 2005 @ 10:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Virtualdub should easily join them.
Open the first, click file, apend AVI, open the second.
Click video, direct stream processing.
Click audio, direct stream processing.
Click file, save AVI.


Black holes are where God divided by zero...
Cheers, Jim
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23. June 2005 @ 10:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
obba
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25. June 2005 @ 15:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I would like to say thanks for everyones help and i am now joining these large DV-AVI files together great.

Once again, thanks.

What forums are all about :)

All i need now is a larger HD :(
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25. June 2005 @ 22:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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All i need now is a larger HD :(
Dont we all!! you can never have a big enough HDD, hope u got it working mate :-)
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