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What is so bad about CMC media?
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macburner
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22. June 2005 @ 21:07 |
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What do they do to it to make it so bad? Why is it so bad?
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22. June 2005 @ 22:10 |
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just crappy dye/disc manufacturing techniques they utilize, they like to "keep costs down" so they "cut corners" in producing their discs, THAT is why CMC MAG is so bad...when you cut corners to turn a profit in business, it's the end users/consumers that get hit the worst~ :)
because CMC MAG standards are much lower than other GOOD manufacturers such as MCC (Mitsubishi Chemicals Corp), what "passes" their tests are of a much lower grade to what would pass with MCC or Taiyo Yuden~ (who by the way have MUCH higher standards before they will sell to the consumer, what would be considered "A-Grade" by CMC wouldn't even pass a grade B or C by MCC or TY standards by comparison)
so, bottom line, you buy a inconsistent/lower quality disc at the stores and because of the poor dye forumlation/creating process, your backups will suffer with the normal symptoms caused by poor media; ie: pixillation, skipping, freezing, greenish color hues to your picture, etc.etc. or worse case scenario, won't even play back at all~
hope that explains it~ :)
stick with the good stuff and you dont' have to worry about it, TY and Verbs for life~ :)
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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23. June 2005 @ 08:35 |
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OMG i don't believe it!! - not a CMC thread; ..luckily kivory666 has described it with far more restraint and detail than myself :)
Original poster pls form an orderly queue at the 2nd link in my signature, then maybe pop in to the 1st link.
I detest crap media and the nonstop hassle it causes so much that i felt the need to have a tribute thread to crap media such as CMC you see :)
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paztelu
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23. June 2005 @ 08:44 |
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Im dissapointed to tell you that CMC and Hp just did an agreement giving CMC the rights to sell Hp branded disk in africa and middle east... :( :( :( so DONT buy Hp or you will get CMC mag...Why would such company with such reputation buy some crappy manufacturer disc...they even cost the same as some 25 pack verbs, Hp sux now :(
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23. June 2005 @ 08:46 |
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CMC is such a large distributor, the problem is that whatever media the are associated with is always cheap and crappy. I really believe this must have something to do with profits. Cheap labor, cheap product, high profit. My two cents :~)
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23. June 2005 @ 08:49 |
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snippet - they already love using CMC media -
HP DVD+R 2.4x (CMC MAG.R01)
HP DVD+R 4x (CMC MAG.F01)
HP DVD+R 4x (MCC.....002)
HP DVD+R 8x (CMC MAG.E01)
HP DVD+RW 4x (PHILIPS-041-000)
The only things i've read about HP and dvd media, up to now, is to avoid them..
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23. June 2005 @ 08:53 |
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yes creaky, i tried VERY hard to restrain myself in going on a total 5 page essay on how much i hate CMC MAG and for what reasons :) it just comes down to making a buck.
@paz, i have always stayed away from HP media but NOW, i won't even bother looking at it given this info you posted on here~ good job on the news, u know why HP made that deal? hehe..the CEO is a woman~ :P HAHAHAHA...j/k i hope that didn't offend any of the ladies out there, only joking~!!
CMC just plain and simple, SUCKS~ :)
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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23. June 2005 @ 10:27 |
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... CMC is such a poor manufacturer that they don't even make decent CD-R media - even my granddaughters can hear the difference!
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23. June 2005 @ 11:29 |
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WOW just title a thread w/ cmc mag or memorex and look at the fireworks, it's not even the 4th yet. Got the bulls fired up. Well no need to comment as my buddies have already stressed the point CMC MAG, HP, memorex, imation, bulkpaq, and phillips (except for phillips 041 dvd+rw's) suck big donkey .............
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23. June 2005 @ 11:33 |
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i'd been quite content for quite a few days as came across no CMC posts until this one :o
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23. June 2005 @ 12:08 |
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HEE HAWWW...is that the sound a donkey makes? yeah..i think this thread gonna get tired REAL soon, not much else anyone else can really say, unless someone actually comes to the defense of CMC MAG...then they will get flamed outta here faster than a lit firecracker~ :)
@mort...it's not even july 4th here yet, i plan on using my CMC MAG coasters to make a small mountain and blow them up w/ my M-80s~ see how much schrapnel (sp?) gets embedded into the surrounding walls and trees :)
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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dlc2000
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23. June 2005 @ 12:27 |
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23. June 2005 @ 12:29 |
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They used to use CMC
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23. June 2005 @ 12:47 |
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LONG LONG time ago in a time zone and galaxy FAR FAR away` :)
but, unfortunately, it is VERY true~ but, that has since changed...and a good thing it has too~ :)
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Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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23. June 2005 @ 12:54 |
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I love how one of the posters on that link labeled..... CMC=crap making company....Im gonna have to remember that one. LOL
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23. June 2005 @ 13:03 |
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yeah kivory666 has some classic acronyms too.
just noticed my bulkpaq comments on that link (shudders)
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23. June 2005 @ 17:34 |
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When I first bought my DVD Burner I bought a 50 Pack of the Memorex CMC. Not knowing how bad they "supposedly" are I burned a bunch of movies. It's now a year and a half later and all of them still work fine with no pixelation, greenish hue or skipping on my 61". Everyone says they are horrible but I personally have never had any problems.
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akyllonen
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23. June 2005 @ 18:34 |
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macburner- Just run a disc quality scan or a K-Probe on a CMC vs a TY02 or MCC. The error rate is 100's of times higher in CMC's. Even on "good" scans.
kivory666- I've always skipped HP blanks as well. Maybe they'll contract out to TY or MCC now that a MAN is CEO. LOL. Mark Hurd was hired a couple month's back after Carly Fiorina was forced out at HP.
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23. June 2005 @ 20:46 |
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Not much to add. Just helping out my buddy k666. Correct spelling shrapnel, you were very close. You can chew me out for the correction, I've got broad shoulders. Just pickin on ya a little.
@joe33333,
I sincerely hope those memorex c mags keep working for you they don't for most, it's your money.
Mort
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23. June 2005 @ 22:55 |
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@joe33333 - see 2nd link in my sig for why 100s of burns on substandard media is a false economy and a waste of your hard earned money
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24. June 2005 @ 00:50 |
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@akyll
bout time they forced her out~!! i really hope they take a new trend in that direction to have TY or MCC manufacturer HP discs, but, i wouldn't count on it~ :P regardless of the CEO now~ :)
@mort
thanks, i was close, but, i spelled it how i would say it phoentically~ hahaha...my spelling has been deteriorating lately, probably due to natural aging~ :P or the fact that CMC MAG has caused me such an affliction whenever i speak about them~ LOL
turns me instantly retarded~ hehe
@joe33333
i wish you the best of luck w/ your memorex CMC MAGs, i agree w/ both mort and creaky as you are one of the LUCKY few that have had such success w/ substandard media:) it's YOUR money, so, in the future if they don't play, don't say we didn't tell ya so~ :P
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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24. June 2005 @ 05:04 |
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... CMC media is cheaper than buying skeet .. my skeet thrower will toss 'em and it's blast away with the ol' 12 gauge ...
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24. June 2005 @ 05:51 |
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wish i had a skeet shooter~ :) i have a few guns, but, no skeet thrower..that would be nice on a hot day like today :)
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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