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kncheung
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4. July 2005 @ 08:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I've just purchased a pre-recorded concert on DVD-9. Two of my DVD players can not read the disc, "disc error". On the third DVD player, it was able to read the disc but the video are continuously vertical scrolling upward even when I put it in pause. I could heard the audio. I even use decrytor and dvd shrink and nero to create a backup. The backup have the same problem. I'm able the play the disc on my PC without any problem. Here is the info on the disc:
- NTSC rating is ALL
- DVD-9
- MPEG2
- DOLBY DIGITAL 5.1 SURROUND
- 4:3
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4. July 2005 @ 08:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
download dvdinfopro (free) and run the disc thru it's media info check and paste results here, that's presuming you mean it's a copied disc



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kncheung
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4. July 2005 @ 11:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi Creaky,
Where can I download DVDINFOPRO? Thanks for the quick response.
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4. July 2005 @ 11:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
no worries - www.dvdinfopro.com



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4. July 2005 @ 12:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi Creaky,
Don't know if this is what you're looking for, here it is...

Media Information
Disc Regions are 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8
Media code/Manufacturer ID N/A Pressed DVD
Format Type UDF 1.02
Volume Name CAIQIND9_A_SCN
Application id
Implementation id Daikin U.S. Comtec Lab
Recording Date/Time (mm/dd/yyyy) 9/26/2004 1:33:13
format Capacity 4.23GB(4.54GB)
Book Type DVD-ROM
Media Type DVD-ROM
Data area starting sector 30000h
Data area end sector 21D4B5h
Linear Density 0.293um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 2
Layer Track Path direction (PTP) Parallel track path

Complete Media Code

Creaky, I notice from the Media info under Media type it specified DVD-ROM. Does this mean the disc is a DVD-R? If it is then it explains why I'm having problem playing back. All my DVD players plays DVD+R. Is there a way to burn it to a DVD+R disc?
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4. July 2005 @ 12:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
a-ha - it's an original 'pressed' disc, not a copy
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Media code/Manufacturer ID N/A Pressed DVD




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4. July 2005 @ 12:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Creaky,
I burnt to a DVD+R disc using decrytor, DVD Shrink and Nero. The backup copy have the same problem.
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4. July 2005 @ 12:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Is it a issue of compatibility with my DVD players or there is a defect in the disc?? All my DVD players range from 1 - 3 years old.
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4. July 2005 @ 12:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
right, do the dvdinfo thing with the +R copy, also paste last section of Nero log MINUS serial number which usually begins with '1A21'. logfile is in c:\program files\ahead\nero\nerohistory.log



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4. July 2005 @ 12:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well if the original has problems the copy cetainly is not going to be any better. Can you return the original DVD? If it won't play then someone owes you one that does.

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Hi Creaky, congrats on Addict!!! scuse me for jumpin' in with my $.002



My website- http://www.dvdplusvideo.com featuring Guides by Alkohol, bbmayo, ScubaPete and me.

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4. July 2005 @ 12:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
true, i'm just used to perservering with copying from discs. just copied from 2 that were giving me grief, took a while, and managed it over both my drives in the end..



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4. July 2005 @ 12:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I know what you mean. Have you ever used ISObuster? I have it but only used it once. It's supposed to be really good at getting past errors.



My website- http://www.dvdplusvideo.com featuring Guides by Alkohol, bbmayo, ScubaPete and me.
kncheung
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4. July 2005 @ 12:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Creaky,
Here it is for the +R disc..

Disc Regions are 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8
Media code/Manufacturer ID RICOHJPNW11
Media Product Revision Number 01h
Format Type UDF 1.02
Volume Name New
Application id
Implementation id AHEAD Nero
Recording Date/Time (mm/dd/yyyy) 7/ 4/2005 4:22:51
Format Capacity 4.36GB(4.68GB)
Book Type DVD+RW
Media Type DVD+RW
Manufacturer Rated Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
BG Format Status Blank Disc
Data area starting sector 30000h
Data area end sector 22E21Fh
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of layers 1

Complete Media Code
00000000 08 02 00 00 92 0F 04 00 00 03 00 00 00 25 E2 1F .............%..
00000010 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 52 49 43 4F 48 4A 50 4E 57 .......RICOHJPNW
00000020 31 31 01 39 23 00 8A 86 68 02 26 00 8A 86 70 02 11.9#...h.&...p.
00000030 28 00 8A 86 6A 02 28 22 12 10 E0 00 F0 00 00 00 (...j.("........
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4. July 2005 @ 12:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@fasfrank - nope, have heard of it but not used it, i'll go get it now otherwise i'll forget. cheers.

@kncheung - maybe you player(s) don't like rewriteable dvd's. it still says blank disc, however the data area start/end has some stuff described there, maybe the disc hasn't been 'finalised' ?



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4. July 2005 @ 12:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hmm...I burnt DVDs onto the same brand DVD+RW in the past and was able to play on all my DVD players. O.k. I think we spent too much time on this issue. I'll just bring the DVD back to the store and get my money back. But just for my knowledge base do all DVD players can play DVD-9? Generally, can one burnt to a DVD+R from a DVD-R using Decrpytor, DVD Shrink and Nero? Thanks to all for your help and knowledge.
kncheung
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4. July 2005 @ 12:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
oh...another question. How come my PC can play all the discs? thanks.
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4. July 2005 @ 14:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
PCs can play a lot of things, .avi mpeg, iso, etc. That is usually a job that is taken care of by your media player software. A DVD player on the other hand requires that the video be in a DVD-Video compliant format.

All the required files have to be there, in the correct format for it to work. The burning programs we use will generally check for this and give you a warning if what you are trying to burn will result in a non-compliant DVD.

Because a non DVD-Video compliant video can play in a PC, the information can still be accessed. With a little work and the right programs, it's possible to salvage the video and turn it into a playable DVD. Not always though!



My website- http://www.dvdplusvideo.com featuring Guides by Alkohol, bbmayo, ScubaPete and me.

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4. July 2005 @ 16:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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All the required files have to be there, in the correct format for it to work. The burning programs we use will generally check for this and give you a warning if what you are trying to burn will result in a non-compliant DVD.
I didn't get any warning or error messages when I burned a backup copy hmm...
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Because a non DVD-Video compliant video can play in a PC, the information can still be accessed. With a little work and the right programs, it's possible to salvage the video and turn it into a playable DVD. Not always though!
Is it complicated to salvage the video? What software is required? Not that I'm going to salvage this specific DVD, but it's nice to know for the future. I'm still learning all these...

By the way what is DVD-9? Is it a North American format?

Nice bike fasfrank! thanks
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