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Kibz78
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17. July 2005 @ 04:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I just recently bought a DVD burners. The main reason i bought it was so that i could fit alot of stuff on a DVD-R discs as and when I need to, ie..data, films etc.

However, I have jst realised that my Divx Player cant see the films that Ive burnt on the DVD-R discs the second time around! Any one kno why this is, and if there is any solution to it?

Are there any known problems with divx players not being able to accept multisession Ddv-r discs?

My burner burner model is the NEC ND3540, the latest one out at the mo. Im using Datawrite Classic 4.7GB 8 Speed DVD-R discs. And im buring it using Nero 6.6 Ultra edition.

Any help, would be much appreciated
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Kibz78
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17. July 2005 @ 10:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Can any one help?
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17. July 2005 @ 10:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
they're not what i'd call very good discs. however let's attack this problem from the bottom, ie post LAST section from your Nero log - it's in c:\program files\ahead\nero\nerohistory.log, but DO NOT post your serial number, which begins with '1A21' or similar'



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18. July 2005 @ 09:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey Creaky - So are u saying that the discs could be the problem? I find this rather strange, and think we should be able to burn abit at a time without any problems.

How do u burn data, do u burn in one go or a bit at a time?

Below is the LAST section of the Nero log u asked to see...Just as a note, i burnt couple of more discs after tryin to make a multisession disc, so if you want to see the log for the multisession cd, let me know.

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Nero Log:

Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: File 'Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=4.71 (0001), size=45056 bytes, created 14/08/2002 15:03:36
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 26/10/2004 18:35:34
Nero Version: 6.6.0.14
Internal Version: 6, 6, 0, 14d
(Nero Express)
Recorder: <_NEC DVD_RW ND-3540A> Version: 1.01 - HA 1 TA 1 - 6.6.0.14
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
CD-ROM: <MATSHITA DVD-ROM SR-8583 >Version: C61f - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.6.0.14
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : FUJITSU MPE3136AT atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
DiskPeripheral : WDC WD205BA atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : MATSHITA DVD-ROM SR-8583 atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : _NEC DVD_RW ND-3540A atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
MATSHITA DVD-ROM SR-8583 E: CDRom0
_NEC DVD_RW ND-3540A G: CDRom1
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 40894464 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 254MB (260532kB)
Free physical memory: 96MB (99020kB)
Memory in use : 61
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

16.7.2005
UDF/ISO compilation
20:09:17 #1 Phase 112 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
DVD-Video files reallocation started

20:09:17 #2 Phase 114 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)

20:09:17 #3 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6314
Iso document burn settings
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Determine maximum speed : FALSE
Simulate : FALSE
Write : TRUE
Finalize CD : TRUE
Multisession : FALSE
Burning mode : DAO
Mode : 1
ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
Character set : ISO 9660
Joliet :FALSE
Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
Allow more than 255 characters in path : TRUE
Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

20:09:17 #4 Phase 111 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
DVD-Video files sorted

20:09:18 #5 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127
Reader running

20:09:18 #6 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122
Writer _NEC DVD_RW ND-3540A running

20:09:18 #7 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3297
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

20:09:18 #8 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3297
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

20:09:18 #9 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3230
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

20:09:18 #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 267
Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
Last address to be written: 1613679 (358:35.54, 3151MB)

20:09:18 #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 279
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD DVD)

20:09:18 #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2433
Recorder: _NEC DVD_RW ND-3540A, Media type: DVD-R
Disc Manufacturer: FUJIFI - LM03
Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193

20:09:18 #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 445
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================

20:09:18 #14 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 830
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 1613680 (1613680) = #1613680/358:35.55
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 1613680 blocks [_NEC DVD_RW ND-3540A]
--------------------------------------------------------------

20:09:18 #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1043
Prepare recorder [_NEC DVD_RW ND-3540A] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 3304816640, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
1613680 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

20:09:20 #16 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Caching of files started

20:09:20 #17 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4114
Cache writing successful.

20:09:20 #18 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Caching of files completed

20:09:21 #19 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Burn process started at 8x (11,080 KB/s)

20:09:21 #20 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2643
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

20:09:21 #21 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2316
Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

20:09:21 #22 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 21592
Set BUFE: Buffer underrun protection -> ON

20:09:21 #23 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2470
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

20:09:21 #24 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8821
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 5
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26127F h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 2FE10 h
Start sector number of the next Border-In: 2FFA0 h
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 02 FE 10 00 02 FF A0 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

20:09:24 #25 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1288
20:09:24.431 - _NEC DVD_RW ND-3540A\H1 T1 : Queue again later

20:17:04 #26 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 116
<_NEC DVD_RW ND-3540A > start writing Lead-Out at LBA 1613680 (189F70h), lenght 0 blocks

20:17:04 #27 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion

20:17:05 #28 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2708
EndDAO: Last written address was 1613679

20:17:23 #29 Phase 37 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Burn process completed successfully at 8x (11,080 KB/s)


Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\ASPI32.SYS': Ver=4.71 (0001), size=17005 bytes, created 14/08/2002 15:03:36
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920), size=86912 bytes, created 29/08/2002 01:27:50 (Adapter driver for rec)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)
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18. July 2005 @ 09:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
a multisession disc has to be 'closed' in order to be used elsewhere.

Quote:
Physical memory : 254MB (260532kB)
Free physical memory: 96MB (99020kB)
Memory in use : 61
- you need to free up more memory, your hard disc will be 'swapping'
Quote:
Burn process completed successfully at 8x (11,080 KB/s)
- slow it down to 4x

i just don't think certain Datawritte discs are any good, i've come across many appalling ones



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Kibz78
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18. July 2005 @ 10:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
So if i finalise the DVD-R, will i be able to see the films(avi files) that I added the second time around on my DivX player?

As for the discs, i looked through some other threads on here and bought myself some Verbatim 16x speed discs. Talkin about speed, whats the point of having a burner capable of burning at 16x and having media that can handle it, but having to burn at x4 as you recommend? I mean is it really that bad, will the disc become unstable in afew months? Im new to dvd burning so excuse my ignorance :P
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18. July 2005 @ 10:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i'm a bit rusty on multisession discs, i was never very keen on it and only dabbled slightly many many moons ago but as far as i remember a disc has to be closed before being accessible outside a PC. i'd do a google search on it to make sure but i think that's how it works

re burn speeds - here's a thread for ya - http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/211439



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18. July 2005 @ 10:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
a quick google showed this -
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Finalize CD / Close Disc - Setting this option ensures that the data written is most compatible with consumer devices.

Leave Disc Open / Leave Session Open - If this option is available to you, make sure that it is not enabled. Most consumer devices cannot read discs which are open, or contain open sessions




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Kibz78
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18. July 2005 @ 10:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Cheers for the link & help. Ive tried to search for threads oo speed, but didnt have any luck.
Kibz78
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18. July 2005 @ 10:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It didnt work. I jst finalised the cd and the stuff i added the 2nd time around to the DVD-R didnt show up. Oh well, i guess the lesson is stay clear of having to do a multisession disc.
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18. July 2005 @ 10:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
http://www.computing.net/hardware/wwwboard/forum/36413.html - ah, that's you. i was just googling for more info..



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Kibz78
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18. July 2005 @ 11:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Lol, yeh i posted that, didnt get many replies but i see theres a new post since i last checked.
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18. July 2005 @ 15:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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It didnt work. I jst finalised the cd and the stuff i added the 2nd time around to the DVD-R didnt show up. Oh well, i guess the lesson is stay clear of having to do a multisession disc.
Yeah, I'd say multisession is more hassle than the "advantage" of using it. My strategy, if I'm paranoid of losing stuff off the HD, is to copy stuff to a finalized DVD+RW or two. When I get a full DVDRs worth, burn a finalized permanent DVDR with the accumulated data. That way I've maximized the chance that I can read the stuff off the discs using another machine if I have to. Then I just use the DVD+RW discs over again.
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30. September 2005 @ 06:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey Kibz78 . Did you solved the problem ?? cos Im stuck here too ... I heard of some of my frieds , that , it is possible to do this , but the option "track at once" in burn option Nero should be enabled . And we need to use DVD+R instead of DVD-R .....
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30. September 2005 @ 12:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Nah, I still haven't been able to find a solution to this problem, ive given up on finding a solution, coz I think there isnt one. However, if you do find a way around it please let me know. At the mo, Im having to wait till i have enough film, tv shows so i can do it in one go. This is frustrating but what can u do. As for the Nero solution, Ive had a look at Nero, and as you suggested u cant change the way it writes dvds/cds.
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30. September 2005 @ 19:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The Solution is to Not make Multi-session disks as most DivX/DVD players Can Not read Past the First session of a Multi-Session disk....

If I were you i would just save up your Files till you have enough to Fill a DVD and then Burn them to DVD....


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30. September 2005 @ 23:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hi

would making the discs as VR mode help the reading for dvd player? i say this as i read something recent here about another issue but the VR mode maybe a move forward?



Nothing here to see, move along folks.

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