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cougar_ii

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21. July 2005 @ 04:50

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Hi there,

What is the Media ID of those TDK ?

VSO Inspector or DVDInfoPro should be able to at least give you that.

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sp00g

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21. July 2005 @ 16:39

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i posted everything dvdinfopro gave me on my earlier post
damn, i was soooo close...

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creaky

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21. July 2005 @ 22:18

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he's getting incomplete media info readings.

@sp00g - what speed discs are they ?

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sp00g

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22. July 2005 @ 05:30

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8x they are

the case says they are 8x compatible and higher

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creaky

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22. July 2005 @ 09:53

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this is where i need cougar_ii's help - i think it depends if your drive is drive is capable with current or future firmware to READ 8x media

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sp00g

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22. July 2005 @ 10:23

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odd...
wouldnt 8x cds be compatible with 8x and under?

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creaky

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22. July 2005 @ 10:34

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my drive can read 16x recordable media and the max the drive can write is 12x. your drive is 3yrs old and unless i've missed something, it just cannot read 8x - or + media, therefore cannot be expected to write to 8x media at lower speeds.

http://www.dvd-recordable.org/Article54-mode=thread-order0-thresh...

i'll happily be proved wrong but that's my understanding

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joebaxter

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22. July 2005 @ 10:45

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the easiest way for me when it comes to mds/mdf files is that i mount it in the virtual drive in Alcohol 120% then i use DVD Shrink to backup the move to the hard drive then i burn the movie with nero
that's just me :)

thanks

joebaxter

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sp00g

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23. July 2005 @ 12:43

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@creaky
i think your right...
my HP cds were 4x...

shouldnt Dell have firmware for me so i can update my drive to read 8x dvds?

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creaky

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23. July 2005 @ 12:49

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not always.. it's like anything, it's all about money at tge end of the day..

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sp00g

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23. July 2005 @ 16:16

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so my best bet would be to buy 4x dvds or get a new drive?
ill call Dell, by the way and tell you guys what they say...

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creaky

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23. July 2005 @ 16:34

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up to you, 4x media should be around a while yet;

here in UK i can buy the latest NEC (think the latest is still the 3540A) for 30quid or so..

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sp00g

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24. July 2005 @ 03:35

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30 pounds isnt so bad...
does it matter what kind of drive i buy?
NEC, etc.

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creaky

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24. July 2005 @ 03:47

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if i was gonna buy another drive it would probably be whatever the NEC drive of the month is (they seem to churn out drives like i don't know what)

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sp00g

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27. July 2005 @ 11:06

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hey guys, im back XD
i called Dell, they said the same thing "the media probably cant be read/wrote by a drive with 4x capability"
Ummm, when TDK writes "For use with 8x DVD+R/RW Drives/Recorders"
doe they mean that? :S

P.S. can anyone find me a ps2 game copying tut? :P thanks ^^

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creaky

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27. July 2005 @ 11:13

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cool, Dell confirmed what i thought.

you need 4x discs.

re ps2 tutorial - see what you can find in guides section at top of page

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sp00g

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27. July 2005 @ 15:09

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couldnt find any tuts for ps2 copying...

will TDK take back a 50 pack spindel that has a few dvds missing?

and what media did you recommend before, creaky?

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creaky

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27. July 2005 @ 22:45

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ok, bearing in mind you can only use 4x +R discs i would recommend taiyo yuden - you have to be very careful to buy genuine Taiyo Yuden's (TY) - my buddy kivory666 is an expert on TY discs, you should search some of his posts in this forum - http://forums.afterdawn.com/forum_view.cfm/47. In fact i'll ask him to join the thread also...

Also look out for these - Verbatim Datalifeplus

ie -
Verbatim DataLifePlus DVD+R 4x (MCC.....002)
Verbatim DataLifePlus DVD+R 4x Pastel (YUDEN000-T01-000)

(the code in brackets is the media code)..

- to be perfectly honest, this kind of question is addressed very often in the above forum, and also it might well be time to get a new burner (hint, hint) :)

- ps don't forget my previous suggestion on page 1 about updating your burner to what would in effect be an NEC 1300A which would give you 4x on -R discs also..

- ps look in the PS2 forums for your tutorials if it's not in the guides, there's a lot of people in the forums whose posts you can search....

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sp00g

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28. July 2005 @ 03:15

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about the firmware you told me to update, that lets me burn to -R?
Dell couldnt event tell me what the firmware did XD
is the dvd code written on the case, spindel, etc?

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creaky

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28. July 2005 @ 03:35

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the firmware update would give you 4x on -R discs , then you have a choice of using 4x +R discs AND 4x -R discs...

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kivory666

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28. July 2005 @ 06:40

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hi there...~

well, hmm...lemme start off by stating that #1, i would suggest it's time for a new burner~ i have the somewhat more recent nec 3520a (the 3540 is the MOST recent i think ) and it's been working a charm for me in regards to the newer media out right now, naturally, i STICK with good quality media, but, your burner is somewhat out of date...if upgrading your burner is NOT feasible/practical at this time for you, then i will have to suggest BETTER 4x DVD+R media...of which, even i have NOT used any Taiyo Yuden 4x DVD+R media in my thousands of burns :) i think you will be very hard pressed to even FIND the 4x DVD+R Taiyo Yudens from a reputable online source. you would have to worry about if they are genuine or fakes, as more commonly found is the 4x DVD-R that supermediastore, rima, and meritline ALL carry~ :) i have thousands of these, they work just fine...TYGO1 coding.

i guess if you want to stick it out with your current burner, my next recommendation STRICTLY for 4x DVD+R media would be :

Verbatim (DataLife) DVD+R 4.7GB RICOHJPNR01 4x (yeah, you guessed it...verbatim datalife just as my buddy creaky suggested)

Verbatim (DataLifePlus) DVD+R 4.7GB MCC.....002 4x (seemingly, as long as you get the datalifeplus ones...you should be ok)

or one that could be easier to find IN STORES here in the U.S. if you look hard enough :

Verbatim DigitalMovie DVD+R 4.7GB MCC.....002 4x (these are rated 4x and have the "movie reel" look on them)

well, that's about all i would even RECOMMEND in the 4x DVD+R format...the easiest way to resolve your burning issues would be to consider getting a new burner...nec drives are very solid and well built, mine is still going strong and i use the official nec firmware w/ no issues. :) i also use the pioneer dvr-109, but, pioneers do not offer the ability to booktype DVD+R to dvd-rom without HACKED firmware...

and like my buddy creaky, i have my trusty ole' Sony dru-710a, many people have had problems with this as i've helped about a 1/2 dozen people just last week with this drive, BUT, if you get a "good batch", i've had mine for over a year and it's still very reliable.

if you have the money, the Plextor is regarded as the "king of burners" or the "caddy" or "top dog" or the "big kahuna" you probably get my drift... :) it's more expensive, approx. $130 for retail kit, BUT, it's one of the best of the best burners out there. i have yet to own one, but, close trusted friends that i have that use it swear by it...as do MANY plextor users here on AD.~

as you can see, i am nudging you into getting a new burner...and those are my suggestions personally...i think this will solve a lot of your burning issues; but, as it goes with all people...now might not be the convenient time for your to purchase another burner, but, if you do decide to take that route...take my suggestions above and you should be good to go...especially if you go with one of the 3 burners that i own, i will always be willing to help if you have the same hardware as me~ :)

hope that is a good start...media recommendations are above if you insist on the 4x DVD+R format ONLY~ :) good luck

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Recommended Media:

Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
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creaky

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28. July 2005 @ 06:43

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cheers ears :)

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sp00g

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28. July 2005 @ 12:39

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alrighty
ill go buy some new media and give it a whirl.
i assume i can buy -R ones now...

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