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question about the new media disc war
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Grindking
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20. August 2005 @ 11:17 |
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with these new blu-ray and hd-dvd's coming out.....I understand that we will need to buy new dvd players. but does that mean they will stop making regular DVD's to? so if a new movie comes out, we have to buy totally expensive DVD players or we cant watch it? I know that when DVD's came out, they continued to make VHS, and they still do I believe, so does that mean they will make new movies in either blu-ray or hd-dvd format AND DVD5 format? or are they going to completly eliminate dvd5s? kk thanks.
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20. August 2005 @ 11:21 |
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... I'm not sure ... When Cds came out they didn't eliminate cassettes either .. but 8 track tapes and Beta tapes sure are hard to come by ... I think that DVDs will be around for some time, but I'm stocking up while the price and availability is right ...
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kchev
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20. August 2005 @ 15:02 |
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I wouldn't worry about it for a few years at the earliest. The vast majority of people are not ready to upgrade yet. It will take alot of time before it goes mainstream.
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20. August 2005 @ 15:07 |
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i agree with the others above, for the NEW format to go mainstream, it will definitely take some time..no need to worry too much about it now, i have stocked up on regular DVD5 media right now and the DL DVD9 media too, it's going to take a lot before i switch to blue-ray and hd-dvd~ :)
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Ppower
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20. August 2005 @ 17:46 |
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kivory what's a good price on DL media. I assume you have Verbatim? The last time I bought DL Verbatim they were 39.99 for a 3 pack. I guess it was about a year ago.
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20. August 2005 @ 18:01 |
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ppower, keep an eye of office depot weekly sales-if you have one locally. $3.50 a piece at their last buy a 3 pack and get 1 free on their verbatim +2.4x dls.I'm also curious of how much they run on the net.
Grindking, they'll probably be like vhs. Vhs has been around since about the early 80's and isn't quite phased out yet.
Beta has been around since around the start of vhs,and it was highly used in japan up until last year or early this year,from what I have read.
I'm sure by that rate,we are good to go with dvd for another 10 years or so. It'll be that many years for the prices of hd and blu-ray to come down for poor folks like me to be able to afford it, LOL
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Ppower
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20. August 2005 @ 18:11 |
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Yeah $3.50 is more like it. I mean $13.33 was crazy. I don't belive people are ready for a new format yet. I know tons of people who haven't made the switch to DVD yet. I suspect dvd will around for a long time. I think the format war may end up keeping dvd around even longer had there only been one new format. I for one intend to sit back and wait it out for a while.
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Grindking
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20. August 2005 @ 18:11 |
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ooo really? so were good to go for a long time? See, I thought these new discs were gonna come out and that would be it. we would have to invest, or lose out. So we shouldnt worry about it then, they will continue releasing all videos on DVD as well as Blu-Ray. but i wonder what video stores will do?
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20. August 2005 @ 18:23 |
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When i read that article about beta: I think sony made the units.I'm not sure,because I never even used a beta player or even seen one close up,lol. That article said those players will no longer be produced.I had no idea that beta was so popular over there in japan. I have seen a laser disc. Those discs were huge, LOL
I'm sure once blu-ray comes out,it'll take a while before the prices of those players to come down for the video rental stores to start buying them.
Can you imagine a 30 gig movie or playstation game?
Since sony has the blu-ray,does anybody think HP or somebody else will come up with the blu-ray plus for the blu-ray dash?
Maybe even green-ray or red-ray?
Just a few thoughts of mine, LOL
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20. August 2005 @ 18:44 |
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... Veering slightly off of the course ... Meritline has 5 packs of DL RiData for $2.60 each (after rebates) and you even get a free DVD+RW (whopee!) ...
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20. August 2005 @ 19:46 |
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heheh....@ppower, saugmon once again hit it right on the dot~ :) on sale i get mine in the $3-$4 range~ and yes, i use the Verbatim DLs :)
im not all that experienced in the DL dept., but i have used about a dozen of them all flawlessly using DVD Decrypter iso read-->iso write, so i can attest to the quality of the Verb DLs, haven't tried any other ones yet~ will continue to wait until they drop FURTHER in price before i start buying them in bulk (like i do with my DVD5 blanks) :)
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rwp2084
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21. August 2005 @ 06:51 |
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Consumers were quick to switch to DVD because the quality is so much better than VHS and because people were ready for a new format. For most consumers, I think the perceived quality difference will not be as dramatic when switching to the new format, so people will be sticking with DVD for many more years. Your average consumer is probably satisfied with the quality of DVD and sees no reason to spend money on a new format.
They will continue to make DVDs as long as enough people are buying them.
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but i wonder what video stores will do?
They will push the new format by placing it near the front of the store.
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21. August 2005 @ 07:38 |
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kivory666- Indeed What you said! I concur ! And from what I understand they have'nt 100 percent agreed on making Blue ray the next format ! Once again Sony could be stuck with an odd duck foramt ! even if was better ! anyone remeber the ELCASSETTE ? or those B.I.C casssette decks that recorded @ 2x speed or MD (Mini Disc) A good concept that sony at least at first did'nt give advertising support to . The point is you can still find Vinyl records if you look really hard ! so I would'nt worry about DVD5 becoming obsolete! just yet maybe when plasma screens & Lcd Tv's are cheaper than a big screen picture tube set! but not for awhile yet anyways! Peace & happy burning!
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22. August 2005 @ 23:55 |
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All these talks and the war that's going on about Blu-Ray and HD-DVD is going nuts. What are they thinking? It looks like they're both (Blu-Ray and HD) on "meth" for sure. Doesn't Sony and HD-DVD do any researches before planning to launch their next generation dvd? About half of the people all around the world still uses VHS and VCD now-a-day to view or back up their movies -- not only that, but some of them doesn't even know a damn thing that DVD9 (DL media) exist, and or have no clue whatsoever.
Regardless of how many gigs Blu-Ray or HD-DVD has for storage, I could careless for both format now and continue to back up all my favorite movies on high grade quality dvds as usual. As long as dvd+r/-r exist, I will continue to support them regardless.
Evidently, nearly half of the people in the world still can't even afford the price of 3 DVD+R DL (DVD9) blanks yet, and now Sony and HD is shooting for a $45 - $100 a piece? C'mon now, isn't that ironic or perhaps called it "retarded"? And who/whom are them to kid?
I'll probably go with Blu-Ray in the end, but definitely "not" soon, perhaps the next 10 - 15 years in the future. Again, as long as DVD+R/-R/+R DL/-R DL lasts, I'll be alright.
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23. August 2005 @ 01:18 |
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nicely put alkohol...in due time..in due time...there is no rush for me to "try" either of these 2 new formats (when they come out)~ :)
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"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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DogBomb
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25. August 2005 @ 07:10 |
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I've said this before: HD-DVD and Blu-ray will be to the DVD as SACD and DVD-Audio is to the CD market. They are for the high-end users who must have high-definition versions of a 1970s movie like Grease despite costing 5X more. The move from VHS to DVD made sense just like vinyl LPs to CDs - it saved space and everything was in digital format. The only advantage of HD-DVD is that it holds more data, but that's assuming you even have a high-definition TV set and HD-DVD player to play it on. People have amassed huge DVD libraries, and they aren't going to toss them out that easily. That's why Blu-ray is dead in the water and Sony scrambled to partnet with Toshiba for HD-DVD. With HD-DVD players, I think they are backwards compatible in that they will play the DVD format.
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29. August 2005 @ 22:17 |
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"Sony and HD is shooting for a $45 - $100 a piece" HD-DVD's will only cost about 10 to 15 percent more the reg DVD's and they work on current players. These are reason why I think it will most likely ein. Who in there right mind would pay 60-100 for a disc which isnt even blank. Sony is gambling hard. They have been bleeding money for a bit and they releasing a system(PS3),players and recorder, and a new format and will have to sell all of these at a lost of a couple of hundred dollars(similair to the Xbox) just to attract customers. My next move is stock up on DL disk and once HD-DVD's CSS is broken I can nicely fit onyo a DVD-9 after a couple passses of CCE or similiar program. But in retropect it ill be years before this becomes a factor.
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DogBomb
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1. September 2005 @ 08:53 |
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I heard that Sony wanted to join up with Toshiba to have one standard, but talks recently broke down so Sony is still going with Blu-ray and Toshiba with HD-DVD. There is market for Blu-ray, but for data storage, not movies. Imagine having 50GB on one disc!!! Like I said, Blu-ray is going to be like SACD - and how many people do you know are running out to buy SACDs to replace their CDs?
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